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Topic: Yellowstone Super Volcano
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Sat 05/23/15 08:05 AM
* I'm not putting this in "Current Events",because I don't see the media/government/Yellowstone National Park- spoke people... taking it seriously or TELLING us the truth... what a panic that would be think

And we don't have a Conspiracy theory forum. :tongue: *
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I have noticed within the last 6-8 months, an increase in alerts, articles, reports & of course YouTube videos.

There is no debating that Yellowstone has anywhere from 1,000-3,000 earthquakes per year.
And that it is the largest volcano system in North America.

However on May 18, 2015 there was a quake of 3.0 (36 miles S.S.E. of Gardiner , MT.). Although this is not a 'sizeable' quake, I believe it is a significant prediction of what's to come ,considering all pass reports of small quakes, magma , temperature changes... etc.( & reports of security changes & cameras being moved.. on YouTube).
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This is the latest article (claiming 'mechanical failure',... again)
May 20,2015
Yellowstone is at the center of another supervolcano scare.

http://www.inquistir.com/21071671/ yellowstone-evacuation-2015-the-yellowstone-supervolcano-causes-panic-again/

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Recent Activity Ramping Up Again

wws.ksfy.com

www.ksfy.com/home/headlines/Will--the-Yellowstone-Erupt-290287661.html?
__________________________________Recent quakes & map

www.seismic.utah.edu

http://www.seismic.Utah.edu/reg2webdir/recentegs/map/Yellowstone.html
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Frequently asked questions about Yellowstone:

www.nps.gov.

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What do you know or believe? Articles ?
Updates?
Pics?
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kirkscastle's photo
Sat 05/23/15 08:36 AM
We know it's there, we know it's a ticking timebomb, as are all volcanoes and faults zones. Live with it, we're just here for the ride!!! Enjoy life and don't fret about that which you have NO control!! Don't worry, be happy!!

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Sat 05/23/15 08:51 AM

We know it's there, we know it's a ticking timebomb, as are all volcanoes and faults zones. Live with it, we're just here for the ride!!! Enjoy life and don't fret about that which you have NO control!! Don't worry, be happy!!


smitten flowers Thank you.
But the truth is I have been fascinated since my first grammar school ' social studies' report on 'fault lines'.... geez, since 1972 .
Saying a prayer for both of us anyway . :angel:

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 05/23/15 09:44 AM
we'll be in real SheepDip in Europe as well!
Only a matter of time!

http://gizmodo.com/5872418/the-supervolcano-that-can-devastate-europe-is-showing-signs-of-awakening



Every ten to 12 thousand years, there's a volcano in the heart of Europe that goes boom. And not any boom, but a let's-kill-everyone-with-billions-of-tonnes-of-magma boom that would cover everything in ash from England and Denmark to the north of Italy.

Now, the supervolcano that can destroy bad teeth, rude waiters, overpriced wine, olive oil, smelly camping sites, disco music, nudist beaches, pasta, David Hasselhoff and Oktoberfest is awakening

It's been 12,900 years since the last eruption. The supervolcano is located under the Laacher See, a caldera lake in the Eifel mountain range, 15 miles from Koblenz and 30 miles from Bonn, the old capital of West Germany.

Some scientists are saying that the volcano can go now at any time, although there are no official alerts. They are just watching for now. Seismological activity started in 2010, with the latest movements happening last February, when a series of seven earthquakes ranging from 2.0 to 4.5 magnitude were registered in the area.

The lake has been bubbling since with with carbon dioxide gas that comes from the magma under the lake's bed. Maybe this is what Europe needs to get out of the Euro crisis.

I wonder what would happen to the world's weather if this, the deadly Mount Tambora and the Yellowstone hypermegasupervolcano explode at the same time. I can already imagine the 2012 doomsday idiots screaming "I told y*" before getting engulfed in flames. [Daily Mail]bigsmile


mightymoe's photo
Sat 05/23/15 12:42 PM
there is actually 5 super-volcanoes in the continental US, with VEI-8, the highest(volcano explosive index), in Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado... the other 2 are at a VEI of 7, in California and New Mexico...


metalwing's photo
Sun 05/24/15 02:53 PM
Actually, Yellowstone has been getting hostile for several years. The lake basin tilted changing the water lever and giving a HUGE warning sign that the magma was rising below.

A Yellowstone geologist panicked a few years ago and tried to make everyone leave.

The super-volcano has erupted on a regular basis, but volcanoes cool down over time and eventually die. Yellowstone may have a good blast or two left in her or she might just fizzle out.

If she does blow, it's gonna be bad.

We have discussed this on Mingle off and on over the years.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 05/30/15 04:41 PM
Yeah, it's interesting. I've been worried about it myself since I visited Yellowstone twice in my life, and was surprised the second time, to find a lot of very unusual changes.

Even "old reliable" was becoming less reliable.

But it wasn't until years later that I found out that my observations WERE that unusual. Fences and guide paths through some features, which appeared to have been in place for decades, had been overrun by new thermal features. I didn't immediately register the tilting of the lake, even though I saw that the fence at one end had been flooded. I assumed at the time, that this was due to excessive snow melting in the surrounding mountains. Again, it wasn't until I read about the discovery of the magma bubble under the lake, that I understood what was going on.

Absolutely, if that thing blows, it wont be fun for anyone.

One minor thing: it's not really accurate to suggest that the Supervolcano goes up with any predictable regularity. The theory I have read about so far, suggests that the volcano is due to a "hot spot" which is moving relative to the North American tectonic plate. Since what ends up above the hot spot varies, and since the amount of motion is not steady, there's no way to predict anything.

metalwing's photo
Sun 05/31/15 02:43 PM

Yeah, it's interesting. I've been worried about it myself since I visited Yellowstone twice in my life, and was surprised the second time, to find a lot of very unusual changes.

Even "old reliable" was becoming less reliable.

But it wasn't until years later that I found out that my observations WERE that unusual. Fences and guide paths through some features, which appeared to have been in place for decades, had been overrun by new thermal features. I didn't immediately register the tilting of the lake, even though I saw that the fence at one end had been flooded. I assumed at the time, that this was due to excessive snow melting in the surrounding mountains. Again, it wasn't until I read about the discovery of the magma bubble under the lake, that I understood what was going on.

Absolutely, if that thing blows, it wont be fun for anyone.

One minor thing: it's not really accurate to suggest that the Supervolcano goes up with any predictable regularity. The theory I have read about so far, suggests that the volcano is due to a "hot spot" which is moving relative to the North American tectonic plate. Since what ends up above the hot spot varies, and since the amount of motion is not steady, there's no way to predict anything.


It has a predictable behavior about every 700,000 years. We should be guess at it within 50,000 years or so.glasses


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Thu 06/04/15 05:32 PM
Yesterday, Wed, 6/3/15
On YouTube by Mary Greenly

Yellowstone Supervolcano Report More Earthquakes Magma Intrusion

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/04/15 06:21 PM

Yesterday, Wed, 6/3/15
On YouTube by Mary Greenly

Yellowstone Supervolcano Report More Earthquakes Magma Intrusion


half the trails are closed now, some of the roads are melting, and the bison are getting out in a hurry... kind of seems that something is up...

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 06/04/15 08:13 PM
Perhaps you folks should watch the 2005 TV movie Supervolcano, which is a fictional account of the Yellowstone volcano erupting during modern times.

I watched the movie when it was shown on American TV.
At the end of the movie, American journalist Tom Brokaw presented a short, real documentary about the Yellowstone volcano.

The real documentary reveals that the North American lithosphere (tectonic plate) has been sliding over the Yellowstone hot spot in a southwest direction. As a result, the Yellowstone hot spot is slowly being covered by thicker and thicker portions of the lithosphere.


metalwing's photo
Thu 06/04/15 09:37 PM

Perhaps you folks should watch the 2005 TV movie Supervolcano, which is a fictional account of the Yellowstone volcano erupting during modern times.

I watched the movie when it was shown on American TV.
At the end of the movie, American journalist Tom Brokaw presented a short, real documentary about the Yellowstone volcano.

The real documentary reveals that the North American lithosphere (tectonic plate) has been sliding over the Yellowstone hot spot in a southwest direction. As a result, the Yellowstone hot spot is slowly being covered by thicker and thicker portions of the lithosphere.




Your information is out of date.

http://www.weather.com/science/nature/news/yellowstone-national-park-supervolcano-largest-magma-reservoir-discovery

The newly discovered magma chamber under yellowstone could fill the Grand Canyon 11 times over.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 06/04/15 09:50 PM


Perhaps you folks should watch the 2005 TV movie Supervolcano, which is a fictional account of the Yellowstone volcano erupting during modern times.

I watched the movie when it was shown on American TV.
At the end of the movie, American journalist Tom Brokaw presented a short, real documentary about the Yellowstone volcano.

The real documentary reveals that the North American lithosphere (tectonic plate) has been sliding over the Yellowstone hot spot in a southwest direction. As a result, the Yellowstone hot spot is slowly being covered by thicker and thicker portions of the lithosphere.




Your information is out of date.

http://www.weather.com/science/nature/news/yellowstone-national-park-supervolcano-largest-magma-reservoir-discovery

The newly discovered magma chamber under yellowstone could fill the Grand Canyon 11 times over.


Uh, the movement of the North American lithosphere is separate from the make up of the Yellowstone hot spot.

metalwing's photo
Fri 06/05/15 11:58 AM



Perhaps you folks should watch the 2005 TV movie Supervolcano, which is a fictional account of the Yellowstone volcano erupting during modern times.

I watched the movie when it was shown on American TV.
At the end of the movie, American journalist Tom Brokaw presented a short, real documentary about the Yellowstone volcano.

The real documentary reveals that the North American lithosphere (tectonic plate) has been sliding over the Yellowstone hot spot in a southwest direction. As a result, the Yellowstone hot spot is slowly being covered by thicker and thicker portions of the lithosphere.




Your information is out of date.

http://www.weather.com/science/nature/news/yellowstone-national-park-supervolcano-largest-magma-reservoir-discovery

The newly discovered magma chamber under yellowstone could fill the Grand Canyon 11 times over.


Uh, the movement of the North American lithosphere is separate from the make up of the Yellowstone hot spot.


Uh, I guess geology wasn't your strong suit. The new finding of the HUGE magma chamber is DIRECTLY UNDER YELLOWSTONE. The fact that the lithosphere moves over a hot spot DEFINES where the hot spot is located and is, in no way, separate from the makeup of the Yellowstone hot spot. The convective flow can move with the hot spot and, in this case, probably did since the HUGE magma chamber is still under Yellowstone.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/05/15 03:57 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Fri 06/05/15 03:58 PM




Perhaps you folks should watch the 2005 TV movie Supervolcano, which is a fictional account of the Yellowstone volcano erupting during modern times.

I watched the movie when it was shown on American TV.
At the end of the movie, American journalist Tom Brokaw presented a short, real documentary about the Yellowstone volcano.

The real documentary reveals that the North American lithosphere (tectonic plate) has been sliding over the Yellowstone hot spot in a southwest direction. As a result, the Yellowstone hot spot is slowly being covered by thicker and thicker portions of the lithosphere.




Your information is out of date.

http://www.weather.com/science/nature/news/yellowstone-national-park-supervolcano-largest-magma-reservoir-discovery

The newly discovered magma chamber under yellowstone could fill the Grand Canyon 11 times over.


Uh, the movement of the North American lithosphere is separate from the make up of the Yellowstone hot spot.


Uh, I guess geology wasn't your strong suit. The new finding of the HUGE magma chamber is DIRECTLY UNDER YELLOWSTONE. The fact that the lithosphere moves over a hot spot DEFINES where the hot spot is located and is, in no way, separate from the makeup of the Yellowstone hot spot. The convective flow can move with the hot spot and, in this case, probably did since the HUGE magma chamber is still under Yellowstone.


actually, they knew about the magma chamber for a while now, it doesn't move, but the crust does... but yes, they just found it is bigger than they realized... when it punches through the weak spots in the crust is when it erupts, last three times were about 650,000 years apart, so it's due anytime now...

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 06/05/15 04:48 PM

Uh, I guess geology wasn't your strong suit. The new finding of the HUGE magma chamber is DIRECTLY UNDER YELLOWSTONE. The fact that the lithosphere moves over a hot spot DEFINES where the hot spot is located and is, in no way, separate from the makeup of the Yellowstone hot spot. The convective flow can move with the hot spot and, in this case, probably did since the HUGE magma chamber is still under Yellowstone.


All I said was that that the North American lithosphere is slowly moving in a southwest direction, which will result in thicker crust covering the Yellowstone hot spot.

The Yellowstone hot spot is stationary.

metalwing's photo
Fri 06/05/15 08:42 PM


Uh, I guess geology wasn't your strong suit. The new finding of the HUGE magma chamber is DIRECTLY UNDER YELLOWSTONE. The fact that the lithosphere moves over a hot spot DEFINES where the hot spot is located and is, in no way, separate from the makeup of the Yellowstone hot spot. The convective flow can move with the hot spot and, in this case, probably did since the HUGE magma chamber is still under Yellowstone.


All I said was that that the North American lithosphere is slowly moving in a southwest direction, which will result in thicker crust covering the Yellowstone hot spot.

The Yellowstone hot spot is stationary.


No, you posted out of date and incorrect information. If the lithosphere is the hardened rock and the mantle is the molten layer under it, the huge, recently discovered magma chamber under the previously known one indicates the crust is getting thinner due to melting of the rock under Yellowstone. If Yellowstone was getting farther and farther from the hot mantle, as you indicated by the moving hot spot, there would be less chance of a supervolcanic eruption. The opposite is true.



Although the crust is moving about 1 inch per year, the convective action of the mantle has created a reservoir under Yellowstone that is gigantic and only makes the movement of the crust significant in geologic terms. In practical terms (the volcano blowing us up) the magma is building and appears to be trending slowly towards another really big blow!

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 06/05/15 09:58 PM
... as you indicated by the moving hot spot ...

The Yellowstone hot spot isn't what is moving.

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 06/06/15 12:05 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Sat 06/06/15 12:29 AM
I believe that there has been a misunderstanding about what has recently been reported about the Yellowstone volcano.

The following is an excerpt from a University of Utah report titled "Scientists see deeper Yellowstone magma".

April 23, 2015 - University of Utah seismologists discovered and made images of a reservoir of hot, partly molten rock 12 to 28 miles beneath the Yellowstone supervolcano, and it is 4.4 times larger than the shallower, long-known magma chamber.

The hot rock in the newly discovered, deeper magma reservoir would fill the 1,000-cubic-mile Grand Canyon 11.2 times, while the previously known magma chamber would fill the Grand Canyon 2.5 times, says postdoctoral researcher Jamie Farrell, a co-author of the study published online today in the journal Science.

"For the first time, we have imaged the continuous volcanic plumbing system under Yellowstone," says first author Hsin-Hua Huang, also a postdoctoral researcher in geology and geophysics. "That includes the upper crustal magma chamber we have seen previously plus a lower crustal magma reservoir that has never been imaged before and that connects the upper chamber to the Yellowstone hotspot plume below."

Contrary to popular perception, the magma chamber and magma reservoir are not full of molten rock. Instead, the rock is hot, mostly solid and spongelike, with pockets of molten rock within it. Huang says the new study indicates the upper magma chamber averages about 9 percent molten rock - consistent with earlier estimates of 5 percent to 15 percent melt - and the lower magma reservoir is about 2 percent melt.

So there is about one-quarter of a Grand Canyon worth of molten rock within the much larger volumes of either the magma chamber or the magma reservoir, Farrell says.

The researchers emphasize that Yellowstone's plumbing system is no larger -�� nor closer to erupting -�� than before, only that they now have used advanced techniques to make a complete image of the system that carries hot and partly molten rock upward from the top of the Yellowstone hotspot plume - about 40 miles beneath the surface - to the magma reservoir and the magma chamber above it.

"The magma chamber and reservoir are not getting any bigger than they have been, it's just that we can see them better now using new techniques," Farrell says.


Bob Christiansen is a retired U.S. Geological Survey scientist who pioneered research on the Yellowstone volcano in the 1960s.
According to an August 2009 article in National Geographic magazine, Christiansen "... suspects the supervolcano may be safely bottled up.
For most of its history, the Yellowstone hot spot has formed calderas in the thin crust
of the Basin and Range area of the American West. Now the hot spot is lodged beneath
a much thicker crust at the crest of the Rockies.
"I think that the system has more or less equilibrated itself," says Christian�sen.
Then he quickly adds,
"But that's an interpretation that would not stand up in court.""

If you want to get heavily into the scientific literature, then I suggest that you visit
the homepage of the University of Utah Seismology and Active Tectonics Research Group.

metalwing's photo
Sun 06/07/15 06:53 PM

I believe that there has been a misunderstanding about what has recently been reported about the Yellowstone volcano.

The following is an excerpt from a University of Utah report titled "Scientists see deeper Yellowstone magma".

April 23, 2015 - University of Utah seismologists discovered and made images of a reservoir of hot, partly molten rock 12 to 28 miles beneath the Yellowstone supervolcano, and it is 4.4 times larger than the shallower, long-known magma chamber.

The hot rock in the newly discovered, deeper magma reservoir would fill the 1,000-cubic-mile Grand Canyon 11.2 times, while the previously known magma chamber would fill the Grand Canyon 2.5 times, says postdoctoral researcher Jamie Farrell, a co-author of the study published online today in the journal Science.

"For the first time, we have imaged the continuous volcanic plumbing system under Yellowstone," says first author Hsin-Hua Huang, also a postdoctoral researcher in geology and geophysics. "That includes the upper crustal magma chamber we have seen previously plus a lower crustal magma reservoir that has never been imaged before and that connects the upper chamber to the Yellowstone hotspot plume below."

Contrary to popular perception, the magma chamber and magma reservoir are not full of molten rock. Instead, the rock is hot, mostly solid and spongelike, with pockets of molten rock within it. Huang says the new study indicates the upper magma chamber averages about 9 percent molten rock - consistent with earlier estimates of 5 percent to 15 percent melt - and the lower magma reservoir is about 2 percent melt.

So there is about one-quarter of a Grand Canyon worth of molten rock within the much larger volumes of either the magma chamber or the magma reservoir, Farrell says.

The researchers emphasize that Yellowstone's plumbing system is no larger -€“ nor closer to erupting -€“ than before, only that they now have used advanced techniques to make a complete image of the system that carries hot and partly molten rock upward from the top of the Yellowstone hotspot plume - about 40 miles beneath the surface - to the magma reservoir and the magma chamber above it.

"The magma chamber and reservoir are not getting any bigger than they have been, it's just that we can see them better now using new techniques," Farrell says.


Bob Christiansen is a retired U.S. Geological Survey scientist who pioneered research on the Yellowstone volcano in the 1960s.
According to an August 2009 article in National Geographic magazine, Christiansen "... suspects the supervolcano may be safely bottled up.
For most of its history, the Yellowstone hot spot has formed calderas in the thin crust
of the Basin and Range area of the American West. Now the hot spot is lodged beneath
a much thicker crust at the crest of the Rockies.
"I think that the system has more or less equilibrated itself," says Christian­sen.
Then he quickly adds,
"But that's an interpretation that would not stand up in court.""

If you want to get heavily into the scientific literature, then I suggest that you visit
the homepage of the University of Utah Seismology and Active Tectonics Research Group.


Dodo, you keep posting out of date and incorrect information to justify your posting of out of date and incorrect data. Please see the link I posted above. The information is CURRENT!!!!!!

A quote from the link.

"A massive, magma-filled secret was recently discovered under Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, a discovery that could mean larger eruptions for the park’s supervolcano.

Researchers from the University of Utah uncovered a gargantuan magma reservoir containing hot, sponge-like rock, as well as some molten rock, that dwarfs a previously known magma chamber..."

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