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Topic: i met the most interesting man today...
mom333's photo
Wed 06/03/15 03:06 AM
he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.

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Mon 06/08/15 04:52 PM
WOW...instills my faith in HUMANITY that there are some really great people of the 'CLOTH' that don't spew the ugly/vile/rhetoric that shows up daily on FB.

Didn't you just want to give him a 'HUGE' hug? LOL
TY for sharing this experience with us, moms333; brightened my day! flowerforyou

mom333's photo
Mon 06/08/15 10:35 PM

WOW...instills my faith in HUMANITY that there are some really great people of the 'CLOTH' that don't spew the ugly/vile/rhetoric that shows up daily on FB.

Didn't you just want to give him a 'HUGE' hug? LOL
TY for sharing this experience with us, moms333; brightened my day! flowerforyou
I didn't hug him u just awkwardly shook his hand lol but yeah he is a lovely man.

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Wed 07/22/15 05:06 PM
Thats instresting. He spoke the truth. Equal Yoked also means if u are a Christrian u shouldnt date someone or marry someone thats not a believer. In my life time i have seen a non believer and Christrian get married plenty of times but the marriage never seems to work out.

mom333's photo
Thu 07/23/15 01:35 AM

Thats instresting. He spoke the truth. Equal Yoked also means if u are a Christrian u shouldnt date someone or marry someone thats not a believer. In my life time i have seen a non believer and Christrian get married plenty of times but the marriage never seems to work out.
why do you think that is?

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Thu 07/23/15 01:40 AM
That vicar sounds like a hustler from brooklyn

mom333's photo
Thu 07/23/15 01:42 AM

That vicar sounds like a hustler from brooklyn
why?

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Thu 07/23/15 01:48 AM


That vicar sounds like a hustler from brooklyn
why?


Reminds me of a a rev. from brooklyn i once knew & the times they were 'ballin' as they called it

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Thu 07/23/15 01:53 AM
Edited by mom333 on Thu 07/23/15 01:55 AM



That vicar sounds like a hustler from brooklyn
why?


Reminds me of a a rev. from brooklyn i once knew & the times they were 'ballin' as they called it
oh well this rev was the typical white,buck teeth, glasses, skinny, rev you get over here in England lol. and he is very quietly spoken. plus he is a lovely man if I was going to be religious I would defiantly go to him for guidance. (not that I would, it would take this god himself to get me to go lol)

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Thu 07/23/15 02:02 AM

he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


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Thu 07/23/15 02:05 AM


he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?

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Thu 07/23/15 02:13 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 07/23/15 02:14 AM



he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.

mom333's photo
Thu 07/23/15 02:28 AM




he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.

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Thu 07/23/15 02:32 AM





he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.

mom333's photo
Thu 07/23/15 02:34 AM






he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.
don't they oh well history must be wrong then.

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Thu 07/23/15 02:35 AM






he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.



Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason.


"Christians" never did such things. Please keep in mind the old testament was before "Christians" came into the picture. Christians are purely followers of the New Testament, as before then there was no "Christ" so therefore there could have been no "Christians".

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Thu 07/23/15 02:37 AM







he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.
don't they oh well history must be wrong then.


Not saying people don't do as mentioned. But a "Christian" would not. As again our "Christ" has told us to judge not. Please don't confuse people's actions with God's instructions, not always the same thing even if they claim it to be so.

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Thu 07/23/15 02:51 AM








he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.
don't they oh well history must be wrong then.


Not saying people don't do as mentioned. But a "Christian" would not. As again our "Christ" has told us to judge not. Please don't confuse people's actions with God's instructions, not always the same thing even if they claim it to be so.
but in the bible it is so, it says (not going to give exact scripture readings here) but it says basically don't trust or do business with Jews. and a lot of other stuff. people took this and followed what it says and mistreated the Jewish people over many many years because the book told them to.

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Thu 07/23/15 02:58 AM









he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.
don't they oh well history must be wrong then.


Not saying people don't do as mentioned. But a "Christian" would not. As again our "Christ" has told us to judge not. Please don't confuse people's actions with God's instructions, not always the same thing even if they claim it to be so.
but in the bible it is so, it says (not going to give exact scripture readings here) but it says basically don't trust or do business with Jews. and a lot of other stuff. people took this and followed what it says and mistreated the Jewish people over many many years because the book told them to.


I can guarantee the scriptures don't say such a thing. And if it says a similar instance, it's being taken out of context. As Jews are God's chosen people.

Eternal life was first given to the jews, the entire old testament/covenant is for the jews. Again, the only thing that has to do with Christians specifically is found in the new testament/covenant as that is where our "Christ" came into the picture.

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Thu 07/23/15 03:05 AM










he was a vicar, he came up to me today at the school gates and said I have lovely children, (they are friends with his children) we talked for a bit then he started with the do I go to church, I told him no because I don't believe in god he didn't seem fazed he just smiled and said why. I then said do you really want to know and he said of course. I laughed a little and told him but one of the things I said was how can I follow a god (if he exists) that would allow people to preach hate about people who are gay. again he didn't seem fazed he just looked at me and said god is infallible he would not and will never create a person in his own image and get it wrong. everyone has a reason for being here from the baby that lived for 20 mins to the gay man who lives with his husband to the old woman who has lived a hundred years or more. he made no mistakes with these people. he also said he made no mistake with me. at this I had a couple of tears and then he went on to say he does not and will never preach hate, because that is not what god is about. I asked him (I don't know why) should I go to church?, and this is what he said, no two people should be unequally yoked, and what I mean by that is god does not want someone without hate in their heart to be with someone who has hate in their heart its that simple. he was a very interesting man and he is now a friend of mine.


God doesn't hate homosexuals, he died so they could live ever more and everyone else as well. He detests that specific action, but for the person themselves God's already paid their debt if they accept his gift and turn away from their sinful ways. There is nothing sinful about wanting to be with someone, even the same gender. Not saying in a manner of "lusting" after them, but for the mere thought itself is not sinful per say. It's the physical action(s) done between the two that are sinful. And it's not even specifically the physical action between two of the same gender, it merely boils down to God only permits sex between two that are married. And God never sanctified marriage between two of the same gender. Regardless if some states in the USA and maybe across the world are recognizing same sex marriages either, God doesn't change. Nor did he instruct for such a change, so there is no proof that those marriages are even worth the paper they are written on.


would you attend a church bring and buy sale so they could afford a new roof lets say as an example?


I'm guessing you're asking "if the church was selling stuff in the church for a new roof, would I go and buy something"?

Absolutely not, the church is for worship. Not for money gain, even if that money is going to be used for the church itself.

God has even told us about this
Luke 19
45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves


You know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting a different result.
but the church the Christian church down the road has sales every summer to raise money to feed the homeless through the winter in their hot lunch scheme. they also have a stay and play that meets in the church and it costs 1 pound. they also have a Kaleigh dance (not sure how to spell it because its welsh. what im saying is things change and for good reason. gay people were persecuted and still are in some places now gay people can get married and so they should. and Christians are not well hopefully not beating slaves that are indebted to them or taking extremely young wives. some things change for good reason. now definition of insanity well that's what you do when you pray over and over again expecting different results isn't it ??? I myself am only having discussions with people like yourself.


Just because the "Christian" church down the road is doing it, doesn't make it right or any less of a sinful action. For God has warned us again such things.

And "Christians" don't persecute nobody, gay or otherwise. For our Christ has told us "Judge not, less ye be judged. For what judgment we pass on them, will be measured back on us". Not worded exactly like that, but if needed will look the verse up for you.
don't they oh well history must be wrong then.


Not saying people don't do as mentioned. But a "Christian" would not. As again our "Christ" has told us to judge not. Please don't confuse people's actions with God's instructions, not always the same thing even if they claim it to be so.
but in the bible it is so, it says (not going to give exact scripture readings here) but it says basically don't trust or do business with Jews. and a lot of other stuff. people took this and followed what it says and mistreated the Jewish people over many many years because the book told them to.


I can guarantee the scriptures don't say such a thing. And if it says a similar instance, it's being taken out of context. As Jews are God's chosen people.

Eternal life was first given to the jews, the entire old testament/covenant is for the jews. Again, the only thing that has to do with Christians specifically is found in the new testament/covenant as that is where our "Christ" came into the picture.
it does actually...they follow not god but something else, they have rejected the messiah. I could go on and on but it does say that.

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