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Topic: Christians with same sex attraction
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Wed 07/01/15 07:55 PM
I have ssa, I can't feel for a woman like I can for a man. I don't want to have s~x with him, as the lord restrains me by his holy spirit but He allows me to be close via touch or the new word by bromance. I have a sex drive and I can't desire the female sex as God ordained man to have. Reading the bible prayer does not take the desires away.

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Wed 07/01/15 08:19 PM

I have ssa, I can't feel for a woman like I can for a man. I don't want to have s~x with him, as the lord restrains me by his holy spirit but He allows me to be close via touch or the new word by bromance. I have a sex drive and I can't desire the female sex as God ordained man to have. Reading the bible prayer does not take the desires away.


maybe the bromance is not a good idea,,, if its possible to avoid situations that provoke your 'sex drive',,, that may help to begin the process of changing your 'perspective'


maybe speak to a professional and find what it is about that truly excites you (its not gender,, we dont find that out until we are alone and naked with someone)

and then open your mind to seeing those things in people regardless of their gender/sex


good luck

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Wed 07/01/15 09:26 PM
God commands to FLEE from sexual immorality!
Why?
Because sexual immoral christians do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God (last chapters of Revelation).

How to stop being a sexual immoral person? We have to repent, Get washed of our sexual immorality through repentance/ turing FROM this sin, confessing this sin to God in a prayer, and ABANDON this sin and lovers.


If we will NOT abandon lovers/sexual immorality to be HOLY sons of God then we will live in sins and die in sins and God will abandon us.

Any sexual immorality is a deadly sin if we will not stop practising it.

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Fri 07/03/15 03:26 PM
Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 07/03/15 03:29 PM

Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?


That's kind of off topic. Anyway, the Bible is silent about the subject.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/03/15 10:17 PM

Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?


the flesh is complicated isn't it? If one believes that lusting after others is a sin,, I suppose masturbation itself wouldn't be the sin, but the lust that permits it would,,,

You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28

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Fri 07/03/15 11:43 PM
Any masturbation is a sexual immorality.
Sexual immoral people do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. This is the LAW of our God Jesus. Last chapters of the Holy Bible -Revelation.

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Fri 07/03/15 11:59 PM
Edited by Versavia on Sat 07/04/15 12:01 AM
The Holy Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10 saying about "spilling your seed" on the ground.

6 Then Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. 7 But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord killed him. 8 And Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife and marry her, and raise up an heir to your brother. 9 But Onan knew that the heir would not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in to his brother's wife, that he emitted on the ground, lest he should give an heir to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; therefore He killed him also.

Matthew 5:27-30: Our God Jesus speaks against having lustful thoughts and then says, "If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away." Are there parallels between this passage and masturbation? Yes...

Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, sexual stimulation, and/or pornographic images. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. We should DIE DAILY TO THESE SINS. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become a non-issue. Many people struggle with guilty feelings concerning masturbation, when in reality, the things that led to the act are far more worthy of repentance.

There are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue of masturbation. Ephesians 5:3 declares, "Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity." It is hard to see how masturbating can pass that particular test.
That is why the Holy Scripture forbids us even to GREET a sexual immoral person from churches. We should expel them from the community to show them that they should repent and abandon their sins an RETURN to God that He would return to them.

The Bible teaches us, "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God"(1 Corinthians 10:31). If you cannot give God glory for something, you should not do it. If a person is not fully convinced that an activity is pleasing to God, then it is a sin: "Everything that does not come from faith is sin" (Romans 14:23). Further, we need to remember that our bodies have been redeemed and belong to God. "Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).

This great truth should have a real bearing on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, the conclusion that masturbation is a sin is biblical. Clearly, masturbation is not glorifying to God but this is a SEXUAL IMMORALITY in its pure form... We should RUN from this sin and avoid immorality.
Why?

Because if we will not die to this sin, we will live in sins...and finally we will die in sins and get reward for this sin- PUNISHMENT and DEATH in the prison hell and the Lake of Fire after hell.
Sexual immoral christians do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God like all sexual immoral people/unbelievers...and this is fair enough.
God is fair.
The Judgement will start from the Church of God...




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Sat 07/04/15 08:39 AM

The Holy Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10 saying about "spilling your seed" on the ground.


Onan's sin wasn't masturbation. His sin was his practice of birth control in violation of Levirate marriage laws. Onan had sexual intercourse with his sister-in-law Tamar, but he pulled out of her just before he ejaculated.


As I said earlier, the Bible is silent on the subject of masturbation, but that fact doesn't stop some people from reading into the Bible things that aren't there.

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Sat 07/04/15 10:30 AM

God commands to FLEE from sexual immorality!
Why?
Because sexual immoral christians do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God (last chapters of Revelation).

How to stop being a sexual immoral person? We have to repent, Get washed of our sexual immorality through repentance/ turing FROM this sin, confessing this sin to God in a prayer, and ABANDON this sin and lovers.


If we will NOT abandon lovers/sexual immorality to be HOLY sons of God then we will live in sins and die in sins and God will abandon us.

Any sexual immorality is a deadly sin if we will not stop practising it.

I fink all sin re equal,no deadly sin or safer sin

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Sat 07/04/15 11:20 AM
Punishment for sin is DEATH no mater if you are a christian practicing sexual immorality in Christianity or a muslim in Islam.

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Sat 07/04/15 01:30 PM

Punishment for sin is DEATH . . .


If that were the case, then you wouldn't be here now, because you would be dead.

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." - 1 John 1:8 (NIV)

The Bible does not say that masturbation is a form of sexual sin.




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Sat 07/04/15 02:42 PM
I have you in my prayers. I wish i can meet you. I am a reborn christian. Good advise keep your mind busy. I do wank sometimes God forgive me.. Remember to pray.

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Sat 07/04/15 07:10 PM

Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?

Well if it is I'm doomed, with a capital D ohwell

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Sat 07/04/15 09:18 PM


Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?

Well if it is I'm doomed, with a capital D ohwell


Joe, you are not doomed.
Pay no attention to the false claim that the Bible forbids it, because the Bible says nothing about it.

Versavia's photo
Sun 07/05/15 03:39 AM
Edited by Versavia on Sun 07/05/15 04:13 AM
For the wages of sin is death
Romans 6

Romans 1:32
Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


The Son of God says to sexual immoral christians:

And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.
Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.
Revelation 2

But SEXUAL IMMORAL shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Revelation 21

And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it (the new Jerusalem city). But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book (Jesus'book) of Life.


I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb (the SON of GOD Jesus) For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?
Revelation 6 : 12-17


Matthew 7:17-19

"So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.


Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, SELF-CONTROL.
Galatians 5


Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

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Wed 07/08/15 02:54 AM

I have ssa, I can't feel for a woman like I can for a man. I don't want to have s~x with him, as the lord restrains me by his holy spirit but He allows me to be close via touch or the new word by bromance. I have a sex drive and I can't desire the female sex as God ordained man to have. Reading the bible prayer does not take the desires away.


Hello. I like your openness and sincerity. You already understand very clearly (as obvious in the above), what God's position is.

Do not get discouraged by the fact that Bible reading and prayer has not helped.

Perhaps there's one thing you haven't done? I suggest you look for a Bible centered church with a good deliverance minister and submit yourself to deliverance. The devil is very wicked and opposes EVERYTHING that God wants. He is constantly pushing mankind to follow him in his rebellion against God so that as many as follow him in rebellion against God can end up in the same place that he (the devil) will be forever - hell/Flames of fire: instead of heaven that God would want all mankind to go. The devil controls countless fallen angels, who also have the ability to possess human beings and make them live lives that oppose God's word.

If you have tried everything else (prayer and digesting God's word) in vain, please submit yourself to deliverance.

God bless you. Amen!!1

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Wed 07/08/15 03:44 AM
Edited by Versavia on Wed 07/08/15 03:45 AM
Deliverance does ONLY God when we ABANDON sins and TURN from them..ABANDON them..all other "deliverance" is MADNESS and heresy in our churches.

If we live in sins then we will die in sins.

Illustration for you:

I was a killer-fighter in Syria.
I repented of my mass-murders I commited, however I often like to cut off heads of Arabs in Syria.


Who am I in this case? A Christian or a killer? A killer. For God and people. We cannot fool God. You are a killer/sexual immoral sinner or a HOLY son of God..there is NO THIRD option for you.


Die for your sins or be a pig and dog returning to your vomit and mud pit...We prefer to be sons of God.

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Wed 07/08/15 07:06 AM

Deliverance does ONLY God when we ABANDON sins and TURN from them..ABANDON them..all other "deliverance" is MADNESS and heresy in our churches.

If we live in sins then we will die in sins.

Illustration for you:

I was a killer-fighter in Syria.
I repented of my mass-murders I commited, however I often like to cut off heads of Arabs in Syria.


Who am I in this case? A Christian or a killer? A killer. For God and people. We cannot fool God. You are a killer/sexual immoral sinner or a HOLY son of God..there is NO THIRD option for you.


Die for your sins or be a pig and dog returning to your vomit and mud pit...We prefer to be sons of God.



Thanks for your input. I understand you very clearly and I agree with you that it is futile to go through deliverance for as long as we remain stuck with sin and refuse to separate from sin.

In this person's posting, it is clear that the person does not want to go on this way and has even tried prayer and resort to God's work without getting free. In this case, there is a force that is stronger than the person and so long as that force remains there, it will be difficult for the person to separate from this uncontrollable desire. Please check the stories of how demons can possess people and make them do things uncontrollably (Mathew Chapters 8 and 9, Mark 5; Luke Chapters 4,8 and 11 and Acts Chapter 16 particularly verses 16-21 (just a few examples).

In the book of book of acts, you will see how that until Paul cast out that spirit from that slave girl, she was helpless about doing the bidding of the demon that possessed her.

There is no harm in going through deliverance. The only problem would be if the delivered person is unwilling to remain clean (allowing Jesus total control and LORDSHIP); in which case, as Jesus said, the demon after roaming would seek to return to the place from which it had been cast out. And if seeing the place swept clean but empty, would gather more demons and go back there; making the state of the person worse than when the initial casting out was done.

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Wed 07/08/15 11:41 AM
Edited by Toks88 on Wed 07/08/15 12:06 PM
The topic here isn't about masturbation. The topic changed as the question on masturbation was been asked by another user.

If you're guilty of masturbation and wish to come out of that bondage. My prayers are with you, and you must be delivered from that bondage in the Name of JESUS! Amen...!!!

If you loved committing and enjoying the sin and says "the Bible is silent about it" then get ready to damn the consequence. Better do something now because it is strange in the body of Christ and it must be dealt with.

I felt a great lust of the flesh and I was guilty of sexual immorality and masturbation and I struggled with it for years before I got born again and went for a serious deliverance. The bondage got broken by the Supernatural Power of the Most High God. Hallelujah! Amen...!!!

Let no one justifies sin. Masturbation is an aborminable thing before the God of heaven because it's been done in the secret with an evil thought of deriving sexual satisfaction with oneself.

You cannot claim to have JESUS in you yet living in masturbation.

Isaiah 5:20 KJV

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


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