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Topic: Bill Cosby - Guilty
markc48's photo
Tue 07/07/15 07:16 PM

The silence from one section of the community is...deafening
She is at the View

Lpdon's photo
Tue 07/07/15 08:24 PM

While over 2 dozen woman have come forward I think that is just a fraction of the number of woman this animal drugged and raped. He has been doing this his entire adult life.

I feel that many will not( and would not) come forward due to embarrassment or because of current family situations. Which is unfortunate as we will never really know just how many woman were affected by his actions.

I hope that by the time the courts are done with him the only thing he can afford to eat is the Jello pudding Pops he was pushing all while acting like the perfect father and husband.


The sad thing is on a high profile case like this for ever real case that is made there are 2 to 3 false ones made as well so it's hard to sort through the real and the BS.

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Tue 07/07/15 08:30 PM
2 to 3 false ones? Where do you get your stats?

I BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 07/07/15 08:34 PM

2 to 3 false ones? Where do you get your stats?

I BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN.


I believe some of them but on celebrity cases everyone wants their chunk of the cheese or their day in the spotlight.

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Tue 07/07/15 08:34 PM
Edited by IamwhoIam1 on Tue 07/07/15 08:35 PM
I repeat:

I BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN.



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Tue 07/07/15 09:16 PM


2 to 3 false ones? Where do you get your stats?

I BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN.


I believe some of them but on celebrity cases everyone wants their chunk of the cheese or their day in the spotlight.


with approx. 30 woman coming forward and even using your calculator and math specs ( which I don't believe are valid) he would still be classified as a serial rapist.


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Tue 07/07/15 09:22 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Tue 07/07/15 09:28 PM

I repeat:

I BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN.

I do too. Look at how the law was way back then. It was a ' sex ' crime them & not an act of 'violence & control ' as it is now. People believed & wanted to believe that sexual predators are strangers, and NOT someone women & children know and are probably related to.
Money & status & fame meant more then, like power. In his case being a black man worked in his favor, because people were DESPERATE to have a LIVING BLACK HERO & kept pushing the ROLE MODEL crap in the 50's to the 80's with lots of people/ MEN.
Cosby whole image is a lie. The people who pushed it,covered It up,stuck by him are just as guilty as he is. And this codependent thinking only enhances his criminal dysfunction like it does for drug addicts.
He had a son who was a drug addict/ criminal who OD & or committed suicide. He has a separate family,a woman & an illegitimate son whom he supports for over 35 years.
He has an honorary doctorate from Temple University of Philadelphia PA.., the man never graduated college.
WHY is anyone surprised with this. slaphead
He is a sick & twisted individual.
He is obsessed with WHITE DEAD WOMEN. This is NECROPHILIA, or early stages of it. IMO, * all were white American women, but one Island woman *
Having sex with anyone who is unconscious & who can not object or reject you (& lets face it, these women would,some were only 19 at the time, & one was 17).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape_drug/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone/

Methaqualone

Methaqualone2.svg
Methaqualone ball-and-stick model.png
Systematic (IUPAC) name
2-Methyl-3-o-tolyl-4(3H)-quinazolinone;
3,4-Dihydro-2-methyl-4-oxo-3-o-tolylquinazoline;
2-Methyl-3-(2-methylphenyl)-4-(3H)-quinazolinone
Clinical data
Pregnancy
category
US: D (Evidence of risk)
Legal status
AU: Prohibited (S9)
CA: Schedule III
US: Schedule I
Identifiers
CAS Registry Number 72-44-6 Yes
ATC code N05CM01
PubChem CID: 6292
DrugBank DB04833 Yes
ChemSpider 6055 Yes
UNII 7ZKH8MQW6T Yes
KEGG D00557 Yes
ChEMBL CHEMBL282052 Yes
Chemical data
Formula C16H14N2O
Molecular mass 250.30 g/mol
SMILES
O=C1C2=C(C=CC=C2)N=C(C)N1C3=C(C)C=CC=C3
InChI
InChI=1S/C16H14N2O/c1-11-7-3-6-10-15(11)18-12(2)17-14-9-5-4-8-13(14)16(18)19/h3-10H,1-2H3 Yes
Key:JEYCTXHKTXCGPB-UHFFFAOYSA-N Yes
Physical data
Melting point 113 °C (235 °F)
Yes (what is this?) (verify)
Methaqualone, brand name Quaalude (sometimes stylized Quāālude[1]) /ˈkweɪluːd/ in the US and Mandrax in the UK, is a central nervous system (CNS) depressant of the quinazolinone class that acts as a sedative and hypnotic.

The sedative–hypnotic activity of methaqualone was first noted by researchers in the 1950s and in 1962 methaqualone itself was patented in the US by Wallace and Tiernan.[2] Its use peaked in the early 1970s as a hypnotic, for the treatment of insomnia, and as a sedative and muscle relaxant. It is still produced and used clandestinely as a recreational drug throughout the world. The drug was popular in the 1970s with hippies and in the disco club scene.


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Tue 07/07/15 09:55 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 07/07/15 10:04 PM
some people give sex for money
some give away sex for drugs

,,,just saying

its tragic that he is involved in such scandal, its very disappointing,,,,

as for false reports,,

The “Making a Difference” Project, which used data collected by law enforcement agencies over 18 to 24 months, found 7 percent of cases that were classified as false. That study is the “only research conducted in the U.S. to evaluate the percentage of false reports made to law enforcement,” according to the National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women. Other studies also estimate somewhere between 2 and 10 percent.



about qualudes...

During the seventies there was an alarming amount of recreational Quaalude use. Many people naively assumed that it was possible to abuse Methaqualone without there being too many negative effects. A lot of these individuals may have started taking the drug for medicinal purposes but this progressed to addiction. The drug became closely associated with the early disco scene. People would take these tablets instead of drinking alcohol, although many would combine the two together for a better high.

The pleasant feelings associated with Methaqualone use make it an attractive substance. People can take the drug in order to escape their problems for a few hours. They fail to appreciate that this type of drug can lead to the despair of addiction. It is not necessary to take Quaaludes for a long time before a mental and physical dependency develops. Once such an addiction takes hold it can be very hard to break.



I can say this as a twice survived sexual assault victim myself

women are not saints, they will lie for attention, and I stand by the practice of waiting for details and 'facts' before just taking allegations on their face....

much like violence, women are automatically 'believed' and sympathized with whenever there is an allegation against a man,,,,

so, like they say in entertainment, even bad press is good publicity, and I don't put it past a woman to want the spotlight,, like those women who poison their kids for the sympathy(perhaps one day the psychological community will give a name to women who scream rape for publicity too)



men are not all saints either, but there should be something more than an 'allegation' to prove it,,,




as for statutes,

murder is especially heinous as it takes a life, rape, though soul killing for a time,, does not

it is also very hard to prove , the more time passes, that an encounter between two people that it was not consentual,,,

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Tue 07/07/15 10:34 PM
some people give sex for money
some give away sex for drugs

,,,just saying




And some people drug unknowing people and rape them

,,, just saying

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/07/15 10:37 PM

some people give sex for money
some give away sex for drugs

,,,just saying




And some people drug unknowing people and rape them

,,, just saying



that's very true

and when the only two witnesses are the two involved,, whose to say which is more of the truth?

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Tue 07/07/15 11:01 PM

some people give sex for money
some give away sex for drugs

,,,just saying

its tragic that he is involved in such scandal, its very disappointing,,,,

as for false reports,,

The “Making a Difference” Project, which used data collected by law enforcement agencies over 18 to 24 months, found 7 percent of cases that were classified as false. That study is the “only research conducted in the U.S. to evaluate the percentage of false reports made to law enforcement,” according to the National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women. Other studies also estimate somewhere between 2 and 10 percent.



about qualudes...

During the seventies there was an alarming amount of recreational Quaalude use. Many people naively assumed that it was possible to abuse Methaqualone without there being too many negative effects. A lot of these individuals may have started taking the drug for medicinal purposes but this progressed to addiction. The drug became closely associated with the early disco scene. People would take these tablets instead of drinking alcohol, although many would combine the two together for a better high.

The pleasant feelings associated with Methaqualone use make it an attractive substance. People can take the drug in order to escape their problems for a few hours. They fail to appreciate that this type of drug can lead to the despair of addiction. It is not necessary to take Quaaludes for a long time before a mental and physical dependency develops. Once such an addiction takes hold it can be very hard to break.



I can say this as a twice survived sexual assault victim myself

women are not saints, they will lie for attention, and I stand by the practice of waiting for details and 'facts' before just taking allegations on their face....

much like violence, women are automatically 'believed' and sympathized with whenever there is an allegation against a man,,,,

so, like they say in entertainment, even bad press is good publicity, and I don't put it past a woman to want the spotlight,, like those women who poison their kids for the sympathy(perhaps one day the psychological community will give a name to women who scream rape for publicity too)



men are not all saints either, but there should be something more than an 'allegation' to prove it,,,




as for statutes,

murder is especially heinous as it takes a life, rape, though soul killing for a time,, does not

it is also very hard to prove , the more time passes, that an encounter between two people that it was not consentual,,,



:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Ras427's photo
Wed 07/08/15 03:34 AM


2 to 3 false ones? Where do you get your stats?

I BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN.


I believe some of them but on celebrity cases everyone wants their chunk of the cheese or their day in the spotlight.
true

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Wed 07/08/15 04:55 AM
It doesn't matter if it was one or one hundred and one...By his own admission, Cosby is a serial rapist...

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Wed 07/08/15 05:16 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/07/bill-cosby-drugs-coerced-sex-rape-allegations


The above article pretty much sums it up.

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Wed 07/08/15 05:38 AM


Bill Cosby Megan Carpentier column
When drugs are used to coerce sex, it's rape. Even if you're Bill Cosby
Megan Carpentier

Whether it’s Quaaludes or alcohol – or anything else – they’re not used to obtain consent


Tuesday 7 July 2015 15.15 EDT Last modified on Tuesday 7 July 2015 16.36 EDT

Analysis Bill Cosby: court documents open window into legal problems
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A man who wishes to have sex with a woman does not ply her with prescription sedatives, date rape drugs or excess alcohol to get her to say yes. A man like that uses substances to prevent her from saying no, because he doesn’t care if she says yes. A man like that wants a woman incapacitated in order to rape her, not in order to have sex with her – and such men admit as much to researchers.


According to documents obtained by the Associated Press and released on Monday, Bill Cosby stated under oath in 2005 that he had obtained Quaaludes to give them to young women with whom he wanted to have sex; he further admitted giving the drugs to at least one woman who later claimed he sexually assaulted her and said that he gave Benadryl to another woman who accused him of assaulting her while she was sedated. He settled the latter women’s accusations, in whose case he made these statements, without going to trial; the former woman is now suing him for defamation over his public denials of her allegations.


Bill Cosby documents 'go a long way to crediting' allegations, lawyer says
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But one cannot have sex “with” another person if that person isn’t conscious or participating; one can, however, violently imitate the act of having sex with someone by forcibly penetrating the victim’s body.

There is no “with” in the act of rape; rape is something that rapists do to somebody else.

Rapists and their apologists like to raise doubts about the certainty of victims’ experiences, to make the majority of men and women who are not rapists worry about having their lives derailed by false accusations. Bill Cosby has himself denied all the allegations of sexual assault (his lawyer called them “discredited”), yet 25 women have relayed similar stories to the press of being drugged and sexually assaulted by a man now revealed to have admitted in a deposition to acquiring barbiturates with the idea that they’d help him have sex with women.

Even if you want to believe Cosby’s assertions in 2005 that the drugs were intended to potentially facilitate consensual sex and not rape – and too many people have wanted to believe those assertions – the questions remain:

How many lifeless women are we expected to believe that Bill Cosby penetrated without knowing that he was doing something wrong?

How many women’s unconscious bodies are we to believe that Bill Cosby moved around to facilitate the completion of his desires?

How many women on Quaaludes are we to believe that Bill Cosby used without once considering that his supposed efforts to obtain consent through the alleged use of debilitating narcotics had been unsuccessful?

Rapists know – from the crying or the screaming, from the efforts to get away, or else at least the swearing, from the lack of movement and the complete unconsciousness of their victims, from the assertion and re-assertion of the word “NO” (or a combination of any and all of the above) – that they are not having consensual sex with a willing partner.

Rapists might be surprised when victims speak up, as many do not, and they might be shocked that they face legal or other administrative charges.

Rapists might even express the opinion that they never raped anyone – goodness knows, many people who commit crimes assert their innocence – but they’re not actually unaware that they victimized someone.

And certainly, anyone using Quaaludes to facilitate “sex” with uncertain or unwilling people after 1977 would’ve had some indication that the courts took a dim view of the practice after Roman Polanski’s conviction.

Research indicates that many rapists commit multiple rapes, particularly if their first efforts at non-consensual sex with unwilling partners result in few consequences.

Research indicates that rapists often use drugs and alcohol to facilitate their crimes.

Research indicates that they’ll consider raping people particularly if they know they won’t face consequences for their actions.

And research indicates that rapists target people that they know a disproportionate amount of the time.

Rapists are rarely the guys in the alley or the burglar in your bedroom: they’re people you know and trust, people you look up to, people with whom you or others might well have consensual sex under different circumstances. They’re people whom you believe implicitly are part of the majority of the population of men who aren’t rapists, people with whom you’d share a drink (or a Pudding Pop). They’re people with rich internal lives and sometimes even money and fame. They’re just also rapists, who rape because they like raping.

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Wed 07/08/15 05:46 AM
The (Hispanic) judge cited Cosby's 'Pound Cake ' speech against him, as the reason he was releasing the sealed documents to the public. Saying, Cosby's speech was HYPOCRISY. :banana:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/07/how-bill-cosbys-2004-pound-cake-speech-exploded-into-his-latest-legal-disaster/

The Court Documents

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/national/bill-cosby-court-documents/1749/

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Wed 07/08/15 06:10 AM

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/07/bill-cosby-drugs-coerced-sex-rape-allegations


The above article pretty much sums it up.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

FROM THE ARTICLE...

A man who wishes to have sex with a woman does not ply her with prescription sedatives, date rape drugs or excess alcohol to get her to say yes. A man like that uses substances to prevent her from saying no, because he doesn’t care if she says yes. A man like that wants a woman incapacitated in order to rape her, not in order to have sex with her - and such men admit as much to researchers.

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Wed 07/08/15 06:26 AM


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/07/bill-cosby-drugs-coerced-sex-rape-allegations


The above article pretty much sums it up.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

FROM THE ARTICLE...

A man who wishes to have sex with a woman does not ply her with prescription sedatives, date rape drugs or excess alcohol to get her to say yes. A man like that uses substances to prevent her from saying no, because he doesn’t care if she says yes. A man like that wants a woman incapacitated in order to rape her, not in order to have sex with her - and such men admit as much to researchers.

Agreed.
If he wanted to get sexed, he could have payed a hooker.
I see a serial rapist. In dire need to control.
Wonder, if he was investigated deeper, there might also be corpses laying around somewhere.
Perhaps, some of the unsolved could be tested for his choice of drug.

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Wed 07/08/15 06:30 AM
are some people still defending this piece crud? noway


I bet he's fully embarrassed now, just like his lawyer said :thumbsup:

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Wed 07/08/15 06:45 AM



http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/07/bill-cosby-drugs-coerced-sex-rape-allegations


The above article pretty much sums it up.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

FROM THE ARTICLE...

A man who wishes to have sex with a woman does not ply her with prescription sedatives, date rape drugs or excess alcohol to get her to say yes. A man like that uses substances to prevent her from saying no, because he doesn’t care if she says yes. A man like that wants a woman incapacitated in order to rape her, not in order to have sex with her - and such men admit as much to researchers.

Agreed.
If he wanted to get sexed, he could have payed a hooker.
I see a serial rapist. In dire need to control.
Wonder, if he was investigated deeper, there might also be corpses laying around somewhere.
Perhaps, some of the unsolved could be tested for his choice of drug.

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http://https//en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia/

Exactly what I am thinking... if this has been going on since the 1960's (that we know of, & he admits to), surely his sick sh@t, must of ESCALATED by now.
30-40 LIVING white women, 17-35 years old, MAY be the tip of the iceberg.

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