Topic: New Idea
Datwasntme's photo
Tue 07/14/15 02:47 PM
read all of this before ya jump on me : )



SitkaRains's photo
Tue 07/14/15 02:51 PM
Couldn't say it better... and the other thing is some of these so called "homes" the residents don't even get to get out of bed on a daily basis and smell fresh air...

It is horrible and disgusting.

zzzippy56's photo
Tue 07/14/15 02:51 PM
Good point...

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 07/14/15 05:39 PM

read all of this before ya jump on me : )





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Wed 07/15/15 01:19 AM
I'm sorry, but this is a bunch of bs.
Failures in the nursing home system exist, but they aren't universal.

I mean things like this:
nursing homes: two showers a week

You think people that work in nursing homes enjoy the smell of unwashed elderly, especially if they are incontinent?

Bathrooms and showers are extremely dangerous for the elderly.
The number one cause of death by injury for old people is just falling down.
"Help I've fallen and I can't get up!" wasn't supposed to be a punchline.
Showers are slippery.
And does "two showers a week" also cover the sponge baths?
What do you want? You want to hire a bathing specialist, and install a pulley system to keep them from ever falling down or slipping getting out of the tub?

Some elderly have dementia and fight bathing like cats.
Sometimes the "two showers a week" is something they have to FORCE the elderly to take.

prisons: access to a library

The majority of books prisoners get are by personal donation.
Rarely do funds get allocated to building up a prison library.
They don't have giant libraries full of all sorts of different genres and educational books.
Nursing home libraries are similar in how they are grown; personal donation by residents.
There's a huge difference though.
If the elderly person can get around they can call dial a ride and get taken to the public library.
Prisoners can't.

nursing homes: 4000 a month rent

Sometimes the government covers the cost of a nursing home, just like prisoners.
There are all sorts of different "rent" options for nursing homes.
"Rent" is heavily dependent upon what type of care is needed.
The more expensive it is, the more likely they need round the clock or personal care.
There's a huge difference between assisted living, and the needs of an alzheimer's resident.

prisons: doctors on-site, and free medication if needed

I think prisoners have to formally request going to the on-site doctor, and can wait several days until it's granted or rejected, in the meantime they just have to wait and hope it's not something too bad.
Medication isn't always available when it's needed.
Some places charge inmates for medical care.
The way "Doctors on-site" is presented makes it seem like prisons have a full hospital and every little minor medical need is immediately tended to and treated with reverent care.
Nursing homes tend to have nurses working in them, constantly caring for the elderly.


"Put The Elderly In Prison" comparison is a specious analogy or trope at best.



MelMaxx's photo
Thu 07/16/15 07:56 AM
Edited by MelMaxx on Thu 07/16/15 07:57 AM




ABSOLUTELY!!

I am dealing with elderly and in-need-of-outside-help parents at the moment. Elderly healthcare..meaning someone to physically help with sorting and dosing meds, trips to dr appts, hygiene, etc....is almost non-existent. Insurance and medicare IS in place and good, but that last little bit still needs covered financially. The peeps who love them and want to care for them simply cannot because of their own responsibilities of work and families.

no photo
Thu 07/16/15 09:39 AM
sign me up dat i wan't a room there roflmao