Lost in the media hype surrounding the addresses of Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin to the United Nations General Assembly on Monday was a bombshell claim by the president of Argentina.

President Christina Fernandez de Kirchener announced that her nation had been approached by an Obama administration official with a request that Argentina provide enriched nuclear fuel to the Islamic Republic of Iran in 2010.

The official in question was Gary Samore, former White House Coordinator for Arms Control and Weapons of Mass Destruction, who did not dispute the seemingly outrageous claim and has been open about his opposition to the nuclear agreement currently worked out between Obama and Iran.



Kirchener said that Samore wanted Argentina to provide nuclear fuel to Iran, ostensibly to counter Iran’s excuse that they needed nuclear fuel for their reactors, removing the impetus for them to continue their own uranium enrichment program.

Kirchener stated that the deal fell through when her government asked for the request in writing, to abide by proper protocol, at which point the issue was dropped and Kirchener never heard from Samore again about it.




For his part, Samore released a statement admitting that he had in fact traveled to Argentina in 2010 and made the request, though he insinuated the incident was no big deal.

In fact, Samore went on to explain how after Argentina balked at the deal, he subsequently approached France and Russia with a similar proposal in which Iran would send their low-enriched uranium to Russia, which would further enrich it before sending it along to France.

France would in turn finish converting the enriched uranium into nuclear reactor fuel, sending it back to Iran for its own use, ostensibly preventing the Islamic republic from weaponizing its uranium stockpiles.

This deal fell through as well, according to Samore, leading to the 2010 U.N. resolution that increased economic sanctions on Iran, ultimately bringing them to the bargaining table for the horrible deal Obama eventually worked out with them this year.

The White House did not immediately respond to the potentially treasonous allegations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC8IQq-pc5c
at 16:40, she talks about obarry and Iran

Hmm, trying to arrange a deal for others (Argentina, France, Russia) all of which the UNITED STATES deals with diplomatically, to prevent Iran from enriching weapons grade nuclear PAYLOADS under the guise of
nuclear FUEL for a power plant, negating Iran's need to alter nuclear stockpiles on their own in unknown ways or quantities. Keep in mind that had Iran gone for this deal, at least SOME of their own uranium would have gone to facilities outside Iran making it IMPOSSIBLE for Iran to do ANYTHING with THAT uranium, until it was returned to their custody.
This is far from treason, since we know for a fact that the Iranians trust Russia more than they trust the US it was a deal they MAY HAVE BEEN MORE LIKELY to go for. They didn't go for it. This is what diplomacy is. When a country has the facilities and military means to deliver nuclear weapons and they hate US, the only way that we can deal with them is to find an ally of theirs and or neutral countries to intervene. Iran CLAIMS to want more efficient nuclear POWER (FUEL for a power plant), WE ATTEMPT to OFFER them the FINISHED PRODUCT cutting the MILLIONS OR BILLIONS in unsanctioned unknown (WEAPONIZATION) research and development.

i was under the impression in 2010, Iran was sanctioned by us and the UN... under our directive... that wouldn't be treason?

Spent fuel can be reprocessed and the plutonium seperated from the uranium.

This is just from memory, but I believe we conducted a test with reprocessed fuel using the plutonium and detonated it...

I think that reprocessing spent fuel has been banned for years because of that.

Yea, I think so, and they balked and delayed the inspectors. Some areas were never inspected.

Nothing will likely come of this because the Obama junta has a bigger problem. Iran actually has its own uranium now.

Mere weeks after doing his best impression of Neville 'Peace in Our Time' Chamberlain, and touting this awesome deal, the Iranians announced (surprise!)they miraculously had discovered a vast, high quality deposit of uranium they never knew existed!

Seems that all during the negotiation process the west hung its hat on the ability to cut off the flow of uranium should Iran prove to be a bad actor implementing the agreement. During this same period the Iranians were surveying the country, and claim after covering off 75% of it they just recently discovered a huge deposit, and it is high quality ore.

Well imagine now that you have ZERO leverage on the treaty, as the Iranians can just give you the big effin' finger, and tell you to shove it, because they don't need anyone else's uranium. They will build mines at the location of the discoveries, and start mining operations ASAP.

The 100 BILLION dollars we gave Iran back? Seems they are using it to fly troops first class to Syria to guard Russian airfields and likely get a little trigger time for their troops.

The Iranians can maybe get a couple hundred battle tested troops out of some urban engagements with the Free Syrian Army before Russian air power bombs them into dust or into a surrender.

These troops can go back to train other Iranians in case they want to roll over the Iraqi border and try to fight the 1980-88 war all over again.

So to recap, YOU signed a treaty with someone figuring YOU held all the cards. THEY now have their own deck. The money YOU gave them for signing it? THEY are now using it to kill the guys YOU'VE been training?

YOU call the Russians names, and wag YOUR finger at them for annexing Crimea and messing with the Ukraine. YOU don't provide weapons and training to those fighting the Russians. THEY set up airbases in Syria, put boots on the ground in Syria, bomb the guys YOU trained in Syria AND they pass a law virtually overnight to conscript 150,000 more troops for their military.

You know, I'm amazed that Obama and Kerry can even walk with their pants down around their ankles like that.

Americans have been attempting negotiations with Iran since the 70s, you'd think the fact that Desert Storm/Sheild and OIF were against their worst real life enemy and actually captured Saddam and handed him over to the Shiites would give us a great deal of leverage with Iran but it didn't. Trying to convince them to let the U.N. Inspection teams in didn't go over well. That's happened before under other Presidents. Negotiations fail, we sanctioned them. They trust us less. Negotiations fail again, we sanction them again they trust us even less. We (under Dubyah) declared war on a country, more on a person and an extremely low possibility of getting their key resource, and what has that accomplished? Are we piping any Iraqi oil into our reserves and economy? How many WMD's did we find there? And where exactly did Dubyah's administration find OBL?
Avoiding a costly (lives and money) war with a country known to have nuclear capabilities is treason? When the Iran deal came from CONGRESS. You know that group that's on cspan from time to time. How is this not the Senate committee on foreign affairs fault? That's another one of those things they do from time to time when they're not on vacation, filibustering, or shutting down the government. The President can sit down and talk to another country's leader and the minutes of their discussion may outline major points of any deals negotiations etc but he can't send any military apart from a few thousand Marines. That is all determined by CONGRESS.
Iran is a nuclear rook for Russia, plain and simple. That's why Dubyah' did squat when we were right next door, or flap. We had significant numbers heavily armed and engaged. We couldn't set foot in Syria Jordan Turkey Pakistan or Iran at the time. None of them cared about the borders apart from knowing where they had to go to get their chance to kill us. I don't agree with the deal at all, and I believe the whole reason it
is what it is is so that the world takes note of how bad it is that they are exploring WEAPONIZATION. Between Iran and North Korea exists too much of a risk of a nuclear threat to everyone, not just the U.S. The UN and the world powers have been passing the buck thinking they won't find any ore, they won't know what to do with it, if they did they couldn't deploy them globally or far enough to reach 'us' (them), or America will stop them so we don't have to do anything. Now people are paying attention, I hope. These threats are real.

Question: Was it treason when Regan negotiated with Gorbachev? Exchanged spies with Russia (USSR then)? They were technically our enemy at the time.

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-says-finds-unexpectedly-high-uranium-104622948.html

HooddahThunkit?

Apples and Potatoes!

How so? Nuclear Iran presents an immense threat to the U.S. as well as our allies and the rest of the world. Just like Russia following WWII, they have the ability to deliver the payloads to targets militaril but congress has not declared war on Iran, nor did they on USSR up to Star Wars and the tipping point of the Berlin wall. Our Presidents most famously Ronald Regan, who made a worldwide media ultimatum demanding to take the wall down. As rich and affluent as Regan was, he didn't just put Gorbachev on the hot seat on a whim. There were lots and lots of talks directly between the two. How is exploration in diplomatic alternatives to Iran enriching unknown quantities or qualities of nuclear ore worse than having a dedicated land line from the oval office to the Kremlin in the most tense and technologically advanced part of the cold war?

Had Regan not made the calculated moves he made we might have been vaporized along with the rest of the world.

wanna clarify a bit? what spies? and what does this have to do with anything? just another way to dodge the topic at hand and bash repubs at the same time?

Theyre all outta "Bush's fault" so theyre moving backwards....they have trouble living in 'today'

Wait! When was Regan a president?

Technically no, this still falls under Bush's fault since he was head of the CIA but fault isn't the point neither is bashing republicans. The point is that the President, regardless of party affiliations, has a duty to the citizens and those of other countries likely affected to PREVENT nuclear warfare whenever possible which is what both attempted to do through diplomatic negotiations. If Regan had set up artillery and aircraft carriers and started salvos against Russian military installations we'd all be dead. He wasn't stupid though, he talked it out which turned out in that case to be the better option saving billions of lives and quite possibly ALL life on earth. This isn't about what Regan did wrong, it's about what he did right even though it wasn't easy. Yes, you heard me correctly, republican Ronald Regan played an extremely significant role in avoiding nuclear war with Russia which may have saved all life on earth.
Now, if talking to the man who can push a button and wipe out the east coast in a few hours, exchanging spies as portrayed in Tom Hanks biopic 'Bridge of Spies'... AVERTS NUCLEAR WARFARE is not treason, and it WASN'T, then how could diplomatically offering Iran nuclear FUEL as an alternative to them enriching their own nuclear PAYLOADS be treason?
Known quantities and quality from known sources Vs. UNKNOWN quality and quantities from UNKNOWN sources for 'Death to America' payloads.... Some of which would undoubtedly be directed at Israel.

Regan - uses diplomacy to avert nuclear warfare
Obama - attempts to use diplomacy to avert nuclear warfare advertised as jihad

Regan- President -- threat to U.S.>nuclear weapons -- intent> remove threat --means> diplomacy via CIA direct phone line from oval office to Kremlin ALONG WITH U.S. Army Navy Air Force with nuclear stockpiles
Obama- President -- threat to U.S.>nuclear weapons -- intent> remove threat --means> diplomacy via White House Coordinator for Arms Control and Weapons of Mass Destruction, deals for allies of ours and theirs which shows the WORLD we have no problem with NOBLE USE of nuclear FUEL for their POWER PLANTS saving them BILLIONS in acquisition r&d enrichment and cheaper ELECTRICITY.


Similarities???


The difference is that Russia had no need for nuclear FUEL or no religiously charged hatred of the U.S. It was political economical and military ideology.

thats just ignorant thinking... stop a nuke war by handing them the materials to do it with... thanks for the reply, but wasn't worth the time it took to read it...

An IAEA report in November 2003 showed that Iran had, in a series of contraventions of its safeguards agreement over 22 years, systematically concealed its development of key techniques which are capable of use for nuclear weapons. In particular, that uranium enrichment and plutonium separation from used fuel were carried out on a laboratory scale. Iran admitted to the activities but said they were trivial.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-G-N/Iran/

I thought at some point I read they were working on reprocessing.

Like that matters.

U.S. political leaders have been accusing Obama of treason, acting unlawlfully, violating the constitution, lying, strong arming, inappropriately using his office and power pretty much since he took office.

He's still "won" 2 nobel peace prizes.

Some foreign chick saying he's treasonous isn't going to change anything.

Obama called Bush treasonous for increasing the national debt so much, and then increased it, what, twice as much himself.

Might as well as accuse Obama of being a poo poo head.

2? when was the second one awarded?

New info has come out regarding Iran and Bill Clinton. Seems slick Willy had enough information regarding the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996 that he sent a backchannel diplomatic letter to the Iranian government saying basically "We know you did it. You had help from Hezbollah members in Saudi Arabia."

Passports for the attackers were provided out of the Iranian embassy in Damascus. Training came through an Iranian general.

Never knew this? Yeah that's because the Clinton White House suppressed the information from the American public AND also denied the information to elements of the American intelligence community.

Why? Seems some people wanted revenge for an attack that killed almost 20 U.S. servicemen, and wounded hundreds. Clinton? He thought trying to 'warm' diplomatic relations with Iran was more important than avenging the deaths of American servicemen blow up in their beds and more important than telling the American people the truth.

Huh. Clintons lying. What a concept. Scumbag.