Topic: Muhammad is the messenger of Islam is mentioned in the Bible
Frankk1950's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:04 AM
Banning something like this is like burying your head in the sand.Exposing the teachings and the background will show the true nature of this religion or ideology.The problem is many of the adherents of other religions don't understand half of what they believe either so to expect them to understand Islamic teachings is also wishful thinking.So called christians who preach hate violence and killing are as much a disgrace to their religion and their god as the muslim who kills christians but at least the muslim is doing the bidding of the religion he believes in.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:41 AM

Isaiah chapter 21


13 The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.

14 The inhabitants of the land of ( Tema ) brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.

15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.

Tema is a place in Saudi Arabia, near of the Medina, the same place where the Prophet of Islam went to him when he fled from those who wanted to kill him with the sword in the Quraish .
No,Old Son,Religious Texts are written on purpose in a Manner that they could be interpreted in any way!
Frankly,you need more than a few Verses written Centuries before Muhamad to prove his legitimacy!
Islam is a patchwork of of stuff borrowed from Pagan,Judaic and Christian Sources.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:46 AM

We all know what islam is and is not, and even trying to keep on tricking people that it has anything to do with any true religion is crazy. Islam is an ideology and NOT a religion.

Enough with all the political correctness and not calling it for what is really is. a cruel ideology. Founded by a cruel beheader who was illiterate and stole some parts of different existing real religions and put it in his ideology manifesto but he could offcourse not hide his true self of killings and hatred towards non-muslims.

Islam is an ideology that has nothing to do with any religion, it is against humanity.

They try using every trick on westerners and ignorant people to make it look ok, but it is a cruel ideology, wasting people and the world should be extremely fed up, and no one should show this ideology any more smiling faces or hugs or whatever idiocy. No more than what someone would (not) show hitler (islam helped him kill and hate) and the nazis. Nazis, a cruel ideology aswell, but islam is the worst.

If you do not understand or have not any knowledge of that islam has more than 100 direct orders in its books for non-muslims to be slaughtered and all cruelty possible, then..check such facts. Ignorance is dangerous.

actually Discussion to the FULL Extent of the 1th Amendment ought to be allowed!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:47 AM

Isaiah chapter 21


13 The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.

14 The inhabitants of the land of ( Tema ) brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.

15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.

Tema is a place in Saudi Arabia, near of the Medina, the same place where the Prophet of Islam went to him when he fled from those who wanted to kill him with the sword in the Quraish .


http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/zawadi/mo_borrower1.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/zawadi/mo_borrower2.html

wonderfuldate's photo
Sun 11/22/15 08:30 AM
you seem to be following another ideology, i.e. "atheism"...? I dont know what cruelty you are referring to when it comes to Christians. Nothing in Christianity preaches anything against humanity, on the contrary, many of our societies are developed around Christian values, hence democracy has been able to develop. Most situations in history, where people who claim themselves being Chrisrians, have been forced to use violence, for example when they needed to shut sialm down, as this ideology does not respond to anything else than violence, obviously.

Its a long useless "discussion" and I dont think it is interesting to discuss with atheists or alike, its the same boring arguments and hence contra arguments. however, here, it is about islam, a cruel ideology, that has since it ever showed itself, been into violence and killings. Yes one should rip it apart theoretically and show what disgusting things it has in its books, but, i think its not interesting doing so anymore, when they are on the level of war. islam needs to be shut down. thats all needed, and whomever has some interest in reading more, they can if they think they have that luxury while their fellow people are being blown up.

Christians can never do anything bad in the name of Christianity, it would be a huge contradiction, as Christianity is about love, forgiveness etc. whatever people do in the name of anything, if cruel, then it is put on them. in this, whatever islamists do in the name of their ideology, they are doing what it says and what their founder did himself. thats the problem, hence it should be shut down. shut down first, ask later.

(i just joined this site, but im considering cancelling the membership here, as i think its awful they even allow islamists roaming around saying crazy things, especially in such circumstances)

wonderfuldate's photo
Sun 11/22/15 08:40 AM


islamists are using democratic values (which they hate) against people. islam does not tolerate many important democratic values. islam is about cruelty and inhumanity, hence it cant be allowed to speak any further (its actions have spoken enough), just as the victims of for example Paris were silenced, islamists should be silenced by banning islam in the west.

Winx's photo
Sun 11/22/15 09:35 AM
Edited by Winx on Sun 11/22/15 09:58 AM

We all know what islam is and is not, and even trying to keep on tricking people that it has anything to do with any true religion is crazy. Islam is an ideology and NOT a religion.

Enough with all the political correctness and not calling it for what is really is. a cruel ideology. Founded by a cruel beheader who was illiterate and stole some parts of different existing real religions and put it in his ideology manifesto but he could offcourse not hide his true self of killings and hatred towards non-muslims.

Islam is an ideology that has nothing to do with any religion, it is against humanity.

They try using every trick on westerners and ignorant people to make it look ok, but it is a cruel ideology, wasting people and the world should be extremely fed up, and no one should show this ideology any more smiling faces or hugs or whatever idiocy. No more than what someone would (not) show hitler (islam helped him kill and hate) and the nazis. Nazis, a cruel ideology aswell, but islam is the worst.

If you do not understand or have not any knowledge of that islam has more than 100 direct orders in its books for non-muslims to be slaughtered and all cruelty possible, then..check such facts. Ignorance is dangerous.


The U.S. has freedom of religion. It's a big part of who we are.

Since you went there....Hitler was an opportunist. He worked with Muslims because they did not like Jewish people. Nearly every anti-Jewish book printed in the Third Reich contained references to and quotations from Martin Luther of the Lutheran Church. The Nazi used them to justify what they were doing.


Sidenote: The Lutheran Church has denounced Martin Luther's
anti-Semitic writings.







Winx's photo
Sun 11/22/15 09:42 AM


islamists are using democratic values (which they hate) against people. islam does not tolerate many important democratic values. islam is about cruelty and inhumanity, hence it cant be allowed to speak any further (its actions have spoken enough), just as the victims of for example Paris were silenced, islamists should be silenced by banning islam in the west.


Silence them? Ban Islam in the west? Should we also register U.S. Muslims in a database or give them ID's identifying their faith?

Does that sound familiar? It happened to the Jews.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."


Kindlightheart's photo
Sun 11/22/15 09:54 AM
So I read once In the Bible...sorry I can't quote the exact verse...but God told Joshua to kill them all...but Joshua spared the women and children...seems to me that's where the problem began...but why listen to God...it's better for mans ego and pockets to twist Gods words and intent...ohwellflowerforyou

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:20 AM

you seem to be following another ideology, i.e. "atheism"...? I dont know what cruelty you are referring to when it comes to Christians. Nothing in Christianity preaches anything against humanity, on the contrary, many of our societies are developed around Christian values, hence democracy has been able to develop. Most situations in history, where people who claim themselves being Chrisrians, have been forced to use violence, for example when they needed to shut sialm down, as this ideology does not respond to anything else than violence, obviously.

Its a long useless "discussion" and I dont think it is interesting to discuss with atheists or alike, its the same boring arguments and hence contra arguments. however, here, it is about islam, a cruel ideology, that has since it ever showed itself, been into violence and killings. Yes one should rip it apart theoretically and show what disgusting things it has in its books, but, i think its not interesting doing so anymore, when they are on the level of war. islam needs to be shut down. thats all needed, and whomever has some interest in reading more, they can if they think they have that luxury while their fellow people are being blown up.

Christians can never do anything bad in the name of Christianity, it would be a huge contradiction, as Christianity is about love, forgiveness etc. whatever people do in the name of anything, if cruel, then it is put on them. in this, whatever islamists do in the name of their ideology, they are doing what it says and what their founder did himself. thats the problem, hence it should be shut down. shut down first, ask later.

(i just joined this site, but im considering cancelling the membership here, as i think its awful they even allow islamists roaming around saying crazy things, especially in such circumstances)
to whom are you talking?

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:23 AM

you seem to be following another ideology, i.e. "atheism"...? I dont know what cruelty you are referring to when it comes to Christians. Nothing in Christianity preaches anything against humanity, on the contrary, many of our societies are developed around Christian values, hence democracy has been able to develop. Most situations in history, where people who claim themselves being Chrisrians, have been forced to use violence, for example when they needed to shut sialm down, as this ideology does not respond to anything else than violence, obviously.

Its a long useless "discussion" and I dont think it is interesting to discuss with atheists or alike, its the same boring arguments and hence contra arguments. however, here, it is about islam, a cruel ideology, that has since it ever showed itself, been into violence and killings. Yes one should rip it apart theoretically and show what disgusting things it has in its books, but, i think its not interesting doing so anymore, when they are on the level of war. islam needs to be shut down. thats all needed, and whomever has some interest in reading more, they can if they think they have that luxury while their fellow people are being blown up.

Christians can never do anything bad in the name of Christianity, it would be a huge contradiction, as Christianity is about love, forgiveness etc. whatever people do in the name of anything, if cruel, then it is put on them. in this, whatever islamists do in the name of their ideology, they are doing what it says and what their founder did himself. thats the problem, hence it should be shut down. shut down first, ask later.

(i just joined this site, but im considering cancelling the membership here, as i think its awful they even allow islamists roaming around saying crazy things, especially in such circumstances)


You could simply bypass topics you don't like. This is an open forum. There are rules already here and they don't need to add more because one person is against free speech. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 11/22/15 10:27 AM



islamists are using democratic values (which they hate) against people. islam does not tolerate many important democratic values. islam is about cruelty and inhumanity, hence it cant be allowed to speak any further (its actions have spoken enough), just as the victims of for example Paris were silenced, islamists should be silenced by banning islam in the west.


Did you forget the crusades, Inquisition or the witch trials done by Christians? How about Jim Jones, David Koresh (sp)? Do they dictate what all Christians are like? Certainly not.

mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:01 PM

YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:07 PM


YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea


Ok I am Christian (born and bred) but PLEASE do not lump me in with those that are hatefilled. You guys know me better. I might disagree but I don't hate

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:07 PM


YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea
rofl

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:08 PM


We all know what islam is and is not, and even trying to keep on tricking people that it has anything to do with any true religion is crazy. Islam is an ideology and NOT a religion.

Enough with all the political correctness and not calling it for what is really is. a cruel ideology. Founded by a cruel beheader who was illiterate and stole some parts of different existing real religions and put it in his ideology manifesto but he could offcourse not hide his true self of killings and hatred towards non-muslims.

Islam is an ideology that has nothing to do with any religion, it is against humanity.

They try using every trick on westerners and ignorant people to make it look ok, but it is a cruel ideology, wasting people and the world should be extremely fed up, and no one should show this ideology any more smiling faces or hugs or whatever idiocy. No more than what someone would (not) show hitler (islam helped him kill and hate) and the nazis. Nazis, a cruel ideology aswell, but islam is the worst.

If you do not understand or have not any knowledge of that islam has more than 100 direct orders in its books for non-muslims to be slaughtered and all cruelty possible, then..check such facts. Ignorance is dangerous.


The U.S. has freedom of religion. It's a big part of who we are.

Since you went there....Hitler was an opportunist. He worked with Muslims because they did not like Jewish people. Nearly every anti-Jewish book printed in the Third Reich contained references to and quotations from Martin Luther of the Lutheran Church. The Nazi used them to justify what they were doing.


Sidenote: The Lutheran Church has denounced Martin Luther's
anti-Semitic writings.



Yes but she isn't American. She is from Sweden

mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:19 PM



YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea


Ok I am Christian (born and bred) but PLEASE do not lump me in with those that are hatefilled. You guys know me better. I might disagree but I don't hate


it's a WWE reference... that was stone cold's Steve Austins catch phrase...

(he's another Texan as well)

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:21 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Sun 11/22/15 12:22 PM




YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea


Ok I am Christian (born and bred) but PLEASE do not lump me in with those that are hatefilled. You guys know me better. I might disagree but I don't hate


it's a WWE reference... that was stone cold's Steve Austins catch phrase...

(he's another Texan as well)


Lol I know. I just don't want to be lumped in with haters

Btw love me some stone cold

mightymoe's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:24 PM





YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea


Ok I am Christian (born and bred) but PLEASE do not lump me in with those that are hatefilled. You guys know me better. I might disagree but I don't hate


it's a WWE reference... that was stone cold's Steve Austins catch phrase...

(he's another Texan as well)


Lol I know. I just don't want to be lumped in with haters

Btw love me some stone cold


i hate haters...

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 11/22/15 12:40 PM






YouTube 3:16 ?


stone cold is about to open a big can of whoopazz... if you can believe that, gimme a hell yea


Ok I am Christian (born and bred) but PLEASE do not lump me in with those that are hatefilled. You guys know me better. I might disagree but I don't hate


it's a WWE reference... that was stone cold's Steve Austins catch phrase...

(he's another Texan as well)


Lol I know. I just don't want to be lumped in with haters

Btw love me some stone cold


i hate haters...


Me too