Topic: Chicago Braces for Release of Police Shooting Video
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Tue 11/24/15 04:51 PM

Video in this link....

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151124/archer-heights/laquan-mcdonald-video-shows-police-shooting-him-16-times


.....no sound though....and sucked, tbh....at least as to how it was hyped.
FFWD thru the 1st 5 min unless you like watching a cop car drive around town.


GUILTY AS HELL !

Hang 'Em High:
http://youtu.be/GN52vq7xmas/

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Tue 11/24/15 04:53 PM

Better, WAY shorter video....


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU2noz7ZaSk&itct=CBsQpDAYByITCN7r_7uoqskCFYYXfgodGxEIb1IYbGFxdWFuIG1jZG9uYWxkIHNob290aW5n&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en

....victim is alledgedly shot only twice while standing...14 more times after he fell....hence the 1st degree murder charge.
^^^^ Better video...

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Tue 11/24/15 05:03 PM
....victim is alledgedly shot only twice while standing...14 more times after he fell....hence the 1st degree murder charge.

It is appalling! He dropped & then raised his arm TWICE, with nothing in his hand. And he is shot again repeatedly! devil

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Wed 11/25/15 12:08 AM
I dont think I will ever watch that video,,

the descriptions were enough,,,, :cry: :cry:

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Wed 11/25/15 12:30 AM

I dont think I will ever watch that video,,

the descriptions were enough,,,, :cry: :cry:

You need to see the Cook County coroner's report. This is what happened in under 30 seconds of the murder arriving on the scene. Well, what happened in 24 seconds [very sadly the shot clock] because the guy started shooting 6 seconds after he arrived. No visible threat, the kid was walking towards a parked cruiser, then away as the murderers car pulled up. Maybe no one attempted CPR or anything else because of what is marked as wound #1 at the top of the head.
BODYCAM? Anyone? Audio? Was this part of the investigation or was that what the prosecution held the 'evidence' for a year for?
Anyway you and every parent in America needs to watch this video.

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Wed 11/25/15 12:36 AM


I dont think I will ever watch that video,,

the descriptions were enough,,,, :cry: :cry:

You need to see the Cook County coroner's report. This is what happened in under 30 seconds of the murder arriving on the scene. Well, what happened in 24 seconds [very sadly the shot clock] because the guy started shooting 6 seconds after he arrived. No visible threat, the kid was walking towards a parked cruiser, then away as the murderers car pulled up. Maybe no one attempted CPR or anything else because of what is marked as wound #1 at the top of the head.
BODYCAM? Anyone? Audio? Was this part of the investigation or was that what the prosecution held the 'evidence' for a year for?
Anyway you and every parent in America needs to watch this video.


I have a vivid imagination, I think I can fill in the blanks by reading the information

I dont need to see a teenager gunned down that way
same reason I have never watched beheading videos,, I can get the point without it,,,

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Wed 11/25/15 01:27 AM
This appears to be a cold blooded murder. This cop outright murdered this guy.

This animal should get the same treatment as any other animal that would commit such a crime.

This is disgusting.. and disgraceful.. nobody deserved to die like that... nobody

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Wed 11/25/15 02:02 AM
germanchocolate1981,

I know you are angry. Believe me I am. But I disagree with .." you and every parent in America needs to watch this video."

NOT everyone can stomach this sort of thing. Last week...I couldn't. And I have no problem saying that.
But last night I could. (But I almost threw up). Unless someone is in a place in their head where they know they can cast it off or compartmentalize it.. I would advise against it.
However, I do agree with you that everyone should know about this.
I would suggest that people ask someone they trust who can be objective.

And I too am VERY suspicious about the timing of this whole thing.
Something is NOT Kosher here.

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Wed 11/25/15 03:05 AM
Edited by germanchoclate1981 on Wed 11/25/15 03:11 AM
Sassy, respectfully this is PRECISELY why everyone SHOULD see this video. It is graphic, it is disgusting, it's terrible, and it happened for real. DD is right, nobody deserves to die like that (save for active shooters killing indescrimenently). But for actionably and lawfully bringing about the much needed changes to law enforcement agencies (as in non anarchisticly) we have to face the problem head on (those of US who still have our heads and the originally equipped holes). These aren't jokes. I'm serious. If the thought of watching it makes you feel ill, then you need to act. Not all of us can, act, speak, or be heard without being charged with some bogus crime ourselves. Just appearing in public is a threat to ones safety wellbeing freedom and in many cases our lives at the hands of police. 40something drug dealers with guns down to 12 year old Tamir Rice.
Not to forget the Louisiana father and his 4y/o son without reason, just shot the toddler didn't survive. Same goes for the 19y/o kid who's 1st date was given line in an undercover mj sale/bust that got him scared out of his wits and shot dead. These are/were white but I don't care, they were Americans, unarmed, connections to nonviolent crimes are tied to low percentages of these quickdraw officer involved shootings, assaults, killings, murders. That's why I said ALL parents, really all AMERICANS need to watch these videos. Don't turn away from reality or the truth on the rare occasion the truth comes to light.

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Wed 11/25/15 03:38 AM
germanchoclate1981,

I am not seeing a solution. At least not yet. Frustrating as hell.
Getting rid of the bad & guilty is not enough. This is a sickness/evil that is being tolerated & probably hidden & overlooked & denied.

I am thinking & praying.

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Wed 11/25/15 04:05 AM
Cops need to be thoroughly vetted,and have a periodic full psychological Evaluation!

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Wed 11/25/15 04:26 AM

Cops need to be thoroughly vetted,and have a periodic full psychological Evaluation!


Absolutely. But who is paying the shrinks ? The police departments.
Just like ' company doctors ' frustrated

I do see this as a case by case issue.
If & when I see clear patterns, I will be screaming it.

The Tamir Rice case (anniversary this week), tragic as it was/is . I do not see the cops involved had any choice, given the information & lack of information they had.

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Wed 11/25/15 05:29 AM
Chicago protesters march as police release video - CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/us/laquan-mcdonald-chicago-shooting-video/ 9 hours ago


Hundreds protest as Chicago releases video of cop shooting teen 16 times http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/11/24/chicago-cop-charged-shooting-black-teen-16-times/76303768/
52minutes ago

Protesters Block Chicago Streets Over Video of Laquan McDonald's Killing - NBC News http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-laquan-mcdonalds-killing-be-released-chicago-braces-protests-n469171/ 45 minutes ago

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Wed 11/25/15 08:18 PM
Idiot with knife in hand, rushes uniformed police officers.
A police officer draws his weapon, idiot with knife turns and walks away.

How stupid does someone have to be, to take a knife to a gunfight?

Idiot with knife, removed from gene pool.

Meh...
The collective IQ of Chicago went up 3 points.

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Wed 11/25/15 08:21 PM
Edited by Rock on Wed 11/25/15 08:23 PM
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Wed 11/25/15 08:21 PM
Edited by nailcap on Wed 11/25/15 08:21 PM
next time go tell the cops hugging some one who try to stab him...lol

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Wed 11/25/15 09:11 PM

germanchoclate1981,

I am not seeing a solution. At least not yet. Frustrating as hell.
Getting rid of the bad & guilty is not enough. This is a sickness/evil that is being tolerated & probably hidden & overlooked & denied.

I am thinking & praying.

This isn't like a leaky faucet that can be repaired or replaced then the problem is gone. Removing all command and officers won't work either.
Tell me if this makes sense to you.
Anytime there is an officer involved shooting the evidence collection and investigation should immediately be handed over to the SBI. If there is a civilian death in an officer involved shooting (not the death of an active shooter) the investigation and evidence collection gets turned over to the FBI.
BODYCAM BODYCAM BODYCAM... Have I said it enough times? Apparently not. Audio definitely adds to the value of body or dash or security footage. In the case of bad lighting, a fall, visual obstruction etc, the audio corroborates what the video shows. In this particular case the burger king security cameras tapes were reported destroyed by the police. Maybe that's what the other officers were talking about standing around McDonald's dead body. AUDIO... Hello people.... Oh, you can't hear, there's no audio.
Before everyone had quality video or smartphones, people didn't ask as much about dashcam footage much less audio. We watched C.O.P.S. and said im glad things aren't that bad here. Now the citizens are showing us all how often, how similar, how widespread, and how acceptable unwarranted shootings unannounced, unidentified, running over people with cruisers. You name it pretty much we have seen it in the last two or three years. Wheelchair bound, innocent, unarmed, walking, standing in a hotel lobby reading, not all shot not all dead but all dead wrong. The 4 year old in Louisiana, that takes the cake.
Not all agencies have been complicit some have turned things over to the FBI or US Marshalls immediately and kudos for that. Anyone who hides or destroys evidence, impedes or obstructs investigations, or allows an officer with as egregious a record as this ******* had needs to be imprisoned, point blank period. People like him, Wilson, Tensing, Miller, gliniewicz (sorry piece of chit) are like gangrenous limbs killing the agencies and departments they represent. You can fire them, you can suspend them and accomplish nothing. 'you shot a 4 year old, go sit in a corner'. Unless these people, these citizens in uniform, are subject to the same law and penalties as any other citizens they are (not seen or perceived as) carrying out the BUSINESS of the agency they represent. Whether that be assault, robbery, murder, drug and gun trafficking, whatever their actions in uniform or plain clothes with a badge. Any civilian who unloaded on a 17 year old whether he had slashed a tire or not, would face as many charges and the highest bail the judge or magistrate could legally set. This should be no different.
Imagine your children, nieces, nephews, grandkids, whatever, have 6 seconds after the police who arrive on
the scene (with 5 or 6 other officers already very much in control not threatened in any way) begin to unload. 15 seconds later, the guy is reaching for a second magazine. Now nothing is released to the public for a year and now we learn there was evidence destroyed and the city cuts a check for hush money. This might have been how serfs or indentured servants had to live (and die) but that is not what OUR CONSTITUTION and current States legislations allow.
How much evidence do we need? How many lives ruined? How many innocent deaths? How many mockeries miscarriages or complete absences of JUSTICE when WE HAVE THE TOOLS?

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Wed 11/25/15 09:56 PM
This isn't like a leaky faucet that can be
repaired or replaced then the problem is gone.
Removing all command and officers won't work
either.
Tell me if this makes sense to you.
Anytime there is an officer involved shooting
the evidence collection and investigation should
immediately be handed over to the SBI. If there
is a civilian death in an officer involved shooting
(not the death of an active shooter) the
investigation and evidence collection gets
turned over to the FBI.
BODYCAM BODYCAM BODYCAM... Have I
said it enough times? Apparently not. Audio
definitely adds to the value of body or dash or
security footage. In the case of bad lighting, a
fall, visual obstruction etc, the audio
corroborates what the video shows. In this
particular case the burger king security
cameras tapes were reported destroyed by the
police. Maybe that's what the other officers
were talking about standing around
McDonald's dead body. AUDIO... Hello
people.... Oh, you can't hear, there's no audio.
Before everyone had quality video or
smartphones, people didn't ask as much about
dashcam footage much less audio. We watched
C.O.P.S. and said im glad things aren't that
bad here. Now the citizens are showing us all
how often, how similar, how widespread, and
how acceptable unwarranted shootings
unannounced, unidentified, running over people
with cruisers. You name it pretty much we have
seen it in the last two or three years.
Wheelchair bound, innocent, unarmed, walking,
standing in a hotel lobby reading, not all shot
not all dead but all dead wrong. The 4 year old
in Louisiana, that takes the cake.
Not all agencies have been complicit some have
turned things over to the FBI or US Marshalls
immediately and kudos for that. Anyone who
hides or destroys evidence, impedes or
obstructs investigations, or allows an officer
with as egregious a record as this ******* had
needs to be imprisoned, point blank period.
People like him, Wilson, Tensing, Miller,
gliniewicz (sorry piece of chit) are like
gangrenous limbs killing the agencies and
departments they represent. You can fire them,
you can suspend them and accomplish
nothing. 'you shot a 4 year old, go sit in a
corner'. Unless these people, these citizens in
uniform, are subject to the same law and
penalties as any other citizens they are (not
seen or perceived as) carrying out the
BUSINESS of the agency they represent.
Whether that be assault, robbery, murder, drug
and gun trafficking, whatever their actions in
uniform or plain clothes with a badge. Any
civilian who unloaded on a 17 year old whether
he had slashed a tire or not, would face as
many charges and the highest bail the judge or
magistrate could legally set. This should be no
different.
Imagine your children, nieces, nephews,
grandkids, whatever, have 6 seconds after the
police who arrive on
the scene (with 5 or 6 other officers already
very much in control not threatened in any way)
begin to unload. 15 seconds later, the guy is
reaching for a second magazine. Now nothing
is released to the public for a year and now we
learn there was evidence destroyed and the city
cuts a check for hush money. This might have
been how serfs or indentured servants had to
live (and die) but that is not what OUR
CONSTITUTION and current States legislations
allow.
How much evidence do we need? How many
lives ruined? How many innocent deaths? How
many mockeries miscarriages or complete
absences of JUSTICE when WE HAVE THE
TOOLS?




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Wed 11/25/15 10:02 PM

Cops need to be thoroughly vetted,and have a periodic full psychological Evaluation!

First of all they need to be vetted and screened independently. I understand having a psychologist that understands their work but if they are loyal to the people theyd shelf dismiss or turn over information to the SBI FBI when necessary.
Internal affairs have extremely difficult jobs because if the press knew what went on in some cases all hell would break loose (and it has). I.A. cant drop bombshells like this without shredding the department's staff and SOP. That's what we NEED to do for the cases like this where there is clear wrongdoing, destruction of evidence, obstruction of justice. You hide or harbor a felon, you are guilty. Perjure or falsify documents, guilty. WE get charged,WE get fined, WE get jailed,they get... desk detail. I.A. has to share a workspace with family who often outrank them, certain precincts or departments aren't equipped to handle such investigations or the G code is in effect and cops lives outweigh any others. Any time what happened here happens, like Freddie Gray's case or Eric Garner's, the precinct or department IS a danger to the community including themselves. If the SBI or FBI comes in that wall of silence turns into a 5'x7' for the guilty parties and those not involved don't face a threat for their criminal coworkers actions.
Departmental predispositions against psychological evaluations that keep cops off the streets need to change. Ray Tensing, Randall Kerrick, Brad Miller, Michael Slager, GI hoe gliniewicz, Darren Wilson, the anonymous gangs in Baltimore and Ferguson didn't make our streets safer, they turned OUR streets and OUR neighborhoods into murder scenes.

Potential solutions: US Military (JAG) lawyers judges, psychologist/psychiatrist who understand the stresses and challenges the DUTY creates, background checks outside the Dept, FBI, CIA independent complimentary screenings. 100% accountability to Federal State and local law at all times. These resources already exist, we already pay for all of them why not put them to good use? What do we stand to lose?

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Wed 11/25/15 10:23 PM
Darren Wilson
Yea....once you typed those two words, every one of the other words you typed lost all credibility. Even Eric Holder says so...but Happy Thanksgiving anyway. Hope you get a new "clip" for your "gun" for Christmas :smile: