Topic: Political Correctness part 2: Gone too far?
msharmony's photo
Sun 02/14/16 12:46 PM
not trying to be funny

how would that be done exactly?

do you mean those who choose to be 'pc'

or those whose opinion is critical of those not being 'pc'?


what is 'cramming ' it down peoples throats?

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/14/16 12:48 PM


People make up PC terms all the time, we can't keep up. Just because someone doesn't use the PC terms, doesn't make them disrespectful. Those that want to be disrespectful, won't care about PC terms anyway.


Does the the impartation of law in the world eradicate lawlessness altogether? Do laws even eradicate ALL attitudes towards lawlessness? No . They do not. What political correctness serves to do ,( as does the law) , is to set a PRECEDENCE of basic respect for OTHER'S lives , their property and their general welfare, and they also impute punitive action to discourage the execution of unlawful or insensitive acts. Without the law , and without political correctness, Many more people would be thinking selfishly, disregarding the rights and feelings and others.

BUT...

The problem with political correctness is that it has GONE TOO FAR, as have most commendable concepts. And as with all abused concepts, checks and balances need to be put in place for the abuse to stop.

There are 2 common things I have noticed about people who dont find any value in political correctness.

1. MOST of them have never belonged to groups that are universally ridiculed /scorned by the wider society on a daily basis and therefore have litle idea how painful that experience is

2 . Most of them are people who stress the importance of brutal honesty but are only brutally honest and strict about SELECTIVE offenses.They often complain about the violence of muslim extremists or crimes of minority races, but they seldom or never address the brutality of slavery at the hands of white masters or the mass killings under hitler or any white authorities . Nor do they address the strangestrange coincidence of famous serial killings and cult movements have been substantially caucasian related crimes. How come the mass shootings in schools by caucauan young men ever get mentioned in these threads on mingle - threads that are suppisedly devoted to brutal honesty . Why is brutal honesty so specifically targeted in one area and not on others? Why are the people who are brutally honest about obesity, condemning overweight people for their lack of indiscipline when chain smokers are seldom ever scorned or condemned for their fowl smell and lack of discipline to quit their cancer sticks?

Lets face it.

The people who condemn political correctness and lobby fir brutal honesty are mainly brutally honest about topics that suit them conveniently. That honesty they gloat about is often ONE SIDED






I feel as if I could almost retire from the threads now,,lol''


I feel you and igor have logical and balanced debate covered,,,,ty for thatflowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/14/16 12:59 PM
I know what cramming means,,,Im asking how one can have 'pc' crammed down their throat

just saying there is no explanation would have sufficed,,,,,

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 01:55 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Sun 02/14/16 01:57 PM



People make up PC terms all the time, we can't keep up. Just because someone doesn't use the PC terms, doesn't make them disrespectful. Those that want to be disrespectful, won't care about PC terms anyway.


Does the the impartation of law in the world eradicate lawlessness altogether? Do laws even eradicate ALL attitudes towards lawlessness? No . They do not. What political correctness serves to do ,( as does the law) , is to set a PRECEDENCE of basic respect for OTHER'S lives , their property and their general welfare, and they also impute punitive action to discourage the execution of unlawful or insensitive acts. Without the law , and without political correctness, Many more people would be thinking selfishly, disregarding the rights and feelings and others.

BUT...

The problem with political correctness is that it has GONE TOO FAR, as have most commendable concepts. And as with all abused concepts, checks and balances need to be put in place for the abuse to stop.

There are 2 common things I have noticed about people who dont find any value in political correctness.

1. MOST of them have never belonged to groups that are universally ridiculed /scorned by the wider society on a daily basis and therefore have litle idea how painful that experience is

2 . Most of them are people who stress the importance of brutal honesty but are only brutally honest and strict about SELECTIVE offenses.They often complain about the violence of muslim extremists or crimes of minority races, but they seldom or never address the brutality of slavery at the hands of white masters or the mass killings under hitler or any white authorities . Nor do they address the strangestrange coincidence of famous serial killings and cult movements have been substantially caucasian related crimes. How come the mass shootings in schools by caucauan young men ever get mentioned in these threads on mingle - threads that are suppisedly devoted to brutal honesty . Why is brutal honesty so specifically targeted in one area and not on others? Why are the people who are brutally honest about obesity, condemning overweight people for their lack of indiscipline when chain smokers are seldom ever scorned or condemned for their fowl smell and lack of discipline to quit their cancer sticks?

Lets face it.

The people who condemn political correctness and lobby fir brutal honesty are mainly brutally honest about topics that suit them conveniently. That honesty they gloat about is often ONE SIDED






I feel as if I could almost retire from the threads now,,lol''


I feel you and igor have logical and balanced debate covered,,,,ty for thatflowerforyou


Thanks Ms. Harmony. I tried to practice what i preached . I was completely honest about an issue I was passionate about without being disrespectful or offensive to anyone and the people for and against political correctness must be held accountable for wrong , unfair , dishonest or unbalanced actions at the end of the day. No one should be exempt from accountability, including myself.

Robxbox73's photo
Sun 02/14/16 02:38 PM
Pc correctness. I've been warned about my strong opinions. So I'll just say I'm not a fan..

mightymoe's photo
Sun 02/14/16 02:44 PM

Pc correctness. I've been warned about my strong opinions. So I'll just say I'm not a fan..


the liberals don't tolerate any difference of opinion...

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/14/16 02:59 PM
if by not 'tolerate' you mean complain about


Id say that's not a partisan tendency

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 03:08 PM


Pc correctness. I've been warned about my strong opinions. So I'll just say I'm not a fan..


the liberals don't tolerate any difference of opinion...


Oh please Moe . Stop deluding yourself. You are making this an issue of liberals and non liberals to distract us from the reality that you have no respect for balance . In that regard, liberals and non liberals are mainly the same. Its embarrassing

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 03:08 PM


Pc correctness. I've been warned about my strong opinions. So I'll just say I'm not a fan..


the liberals don't tolerate any difference of opinion...


Oh please Moe . Stop deluding yourself. You are making this an issue of liberals and non liberals to distract us from the reality that you have no respect for balance . In that regard, liberals and non liberals are mainly the same. Its embarrassing

mightymoe's photo
Sun 02/14/16 03:12 PM



Pc correctness. I've been warned about my strong opinions. So I'll just say I'm not a fan..


the liberals don't tolerate any difference of opinion...


Oh please Moe . Stop deluding yourself. You are making this an issue of liberals and non liberals to distract us from the reality that you have no respect for balance . In that regard, liberals and non liberals are mainly the same. Its embarrassing


says the liberal...

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 03:33 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Sun 02/14/16 03:36 PM
..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou

mightymoe's photo
Sun 02/14/16 03:47 PM

..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou


is that supposed to mean something? do i have to just agree with you because you said so? i'm against PC, plain and simple... why is that so hard for you to understand? your liberalness gets in the way of understanding that other people don't think like you, and now you wanna get upset because i don't agree? i told you that 3 pages ago, and yet, you're still telling how wrong i am... wht is wrong with you liberals?

blah..blah..'s photo
Sun 02/14/16 03:53 PM
In the UK it went went too far about 20 years ago!

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 04:17 PM


..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou


is that supposed to mean something? do i have to just agree with you because you said so? i'm against PC, plain and simple... why is that so hard for you to understand? your liberalness gets in the way of understanding that other people don't think like you, and now you wanna get upset because i don't agree? i told you that 3 pages ago, and yet, you're still telling how wrong i am... wht is wrong with you liberals?


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were being irrelevant because u continue to push an agenda of liberals vs non liberals when I am addressing the issue of BALANCE. Whether you or anyone else is against the concept of BALANCE is all up to you and them . But if your basis for all of these debates is taken away from you ie your argument of liberals vs non liberals, what else is there left for you to base your logic on ?

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/14/16 04:18 PM

In the UK it went went too far about 20 years ago!



'it' should be addressed by brits , whatever 'it' is


mightymoe's photo
Sun 02/14/16 04:24 PM



..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou


is that supposed to mean something? do i have to just agree with you because you said so? i'm against PC, plain and simple... why is that so hard for you to understand? your liberalness gets in the way of understanding that other people don't think like you, and now you wanna get upset because i don't agree? i told you that 3 pages ago, and yet, you're still telling how wrong i am... wht is wrong with you liberals?


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were being irrelevant because u continue to push an agenda of liberals vs non liberals when I am addressing the issue of BALANCE. Whether you or anyone else is against the concept of BALANCE is all up to you and them . But if your basis for all of these debates is taken away from you ie your argument of liberals vs non liberals, what else is there left for you to base your logic on ?


pc is liberal conjecture, they promote and want it everywhere... any college campus, who is the ones screeching PCness? the young republicans? i don't think so..

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 05:05 PM




..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou


is that supposed to mean something? do i have to just agree with you because you said so? i'm against PC, plain and simple... why is that so hard for you to understand? your liberalness gets in the way of understanding that other people don't think like you, and now you wanna get upset because i don't agree? i told you that 3 pages ago, and yet, you're still telling how wrong i am... wht is wrong with you liberals?


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were being irrelevant because u continue to push an agenda of liberals vs non liberals when I am addressing the issue of BALANCE. Whether you or anyone else is against the concept of BALANCE is all up to you and them . But if your basis for all of these debates is taken away from you ie your argument of liberals vs non liberals, what else is there left for you to base your logic on ?


pc is liberal conjecture, they promote and want it everywhere... any college campus, who is the ones screeching PCness? the young republicans? i don't think so..


Then perhaps you can repeat what you just said to THOSE liberalists.THIS liberalalist has been making statements about BALANCE way more than political correctness and I respect your right to reject balance as a non-liberal and i also respect the liberal's right to reject balance because rejecting balance is the one main thing that most liberals and non.liberals have in common . In that sense I am neither liberal nor non liberal because I am inclined to lobby for balance and see things from all sides instead of pushing an agenda which happens to be convenient for me

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 02/14/16 05:08 PM
This thread is certainly interesting. Popcorn, Anyone?


mightymoe's photo
Sun 02/14/16 05:38 PM





..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou


is that supposed to mean something? do i have to just agree with you because you said so? i'm against PC, plain and simple... why is that so hard for you to understand? your liberalness gets in the way of understanding that other people don't think like you, and now you wanna get upset because i don't agree? i told you that 3 pages ago, and yet, you're still telling how wrong i am... wht is wrong with you liberals?


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were being irrelevant because u continue to push an agenda of liberals vs non liberals when I am addressing the issue of BALANCE. Whether you or anyone else is against the concept of BALANCE is all up to you and them . But if your basis for all of these debates is taken away from you ie your argument of liberals vs non liberals, what else is there left for you to base your logic on ?


pc is liberal conjecture, they promote and want it everywhere... any college campus, who is the ones screeching PCness? the young republicans? i don't think so..


Then perhaps you can repeat what you just said to THOSE liberalists.THIS liberalalist has been making statements about BALANCE way more than political correctness and I respect your right to reject balance as a non-liberal and i also respect the liberal's right to reject balance because rejecting balance is the one main thing that most liberals and non.liberals have in common . In that sense I am neither liberal nor non liberal because I am inclined to lobby for balance and see things from all sides instead of pushing an agenda which happens to be convenient for me


and still, i don't care...yawn

peggy122's photo
Sun 02/14/16 10:41 PM






..Says the liberal who spent a whole page preaching about balance and condemning the EXTREME lobbying for OR against political correctness. Moe. Did you just read what you just wrote?You are way too intelligent to be embarrasssing yourself like this. Please re read what I wrote before making irrelevant comments like that.And thanks for reinforcing my point about unbalanced percpectives flowerforyou


is that supposed to mean something? do i have to just agree with you because you said so? i'm against PC, plain and simple... why is that so hard for you to understand? your liberalness gets in the way of understanding that other people don't think like you, and now you wanna get upset because i don't agree? i told you that 3 pages ago, and yet, you're still telling how wrong i am... wht is wrong with you liberals?


I didn't say you were wrong. I said you were being irrelevant because u continue to push an agenda of liberals vs non liberals when I am addressing the issue of BALANCE. Whether you or anyone else is against the concept of BALANCE is all up to you and them . But if your basis for all of these debates is taken away from you ie your argument of liberals vs non liberals, what else is there left for you to base your logic on ?


pc is liberal conjecture, they promote and want it everywhere... any college campus, who is the ones screeching PCness? the young republicans? i don't think so..


Then perhaps you can repeat what you just said to THOSE liberalists.THIS liberalalist has been making statements about BALANCE way more than political correctness and I respect your right to reject balance as a non-liberal and i also respect the liberal's right to reject balance because rejecting balance is the one main thing that most liberals and non.liberals have in common . In that sense I am neither liberal nor non liberal because I am inclined to lobby for balance and see things from all sides instead of pushing an agenda which happens to be convenient for me


and still, i don't care...yawn


And on that compelling note, this brings us to the end of this thread. Cheers Joe !drinker