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Topic: brief history of the social security card
mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/19/16 05:11 PM
HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

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Fri 02/19/16 07:49 PM
Edited by LittleLeftofRight on Fri 02/19/16 08:16 PM
and whispers are a deafening scream!






Statutory Instrument 1997 No. 1778

The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997



© Crown Copyright 1997

Statutory Instruments printed from this website are printed under the superintendence and authority of the Controller of HMSO being the Queen’s Printer of Acts of Parliament.

The legislation contained on this web site is subject to Crown Copyright protection. It may be reproduced free of charge provided that it is reproduced accurately and that the source and copyright status of the material is made evident to users.




1997 No. 1778

SOCIAL SECURITY

The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997


Made 22nd July 1997
Coming into force 1st September 1997

At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 22nd day of July 1997


Present,

The Queen’s Most Excellent Majesty in Council


Whereas at London on the 13th February 1984 an Agreement on social security between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America (hereinafter referred to as “the Agreement”) and an Administrative Agreement for the implementation of the Agreement (hereinafter referred to as “the Administrative Agreement”)[1] were signed on behalf of those Governments and effect was given to the Agreement by the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1984 (hereinafter referred to as “the Principal Order”)[2]:

And Whereas at London on 6th June 1996 a Supplementary Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America (which Supplementary Agreement is set out in Schedule 1 to this Order and is hereinafter referred to as “the Supplementary Agreement”) amending the Agreement and a Supplementary Administrative Agreement amending the Administrative Agreement (which Supplementary Administrative Agreement is set out in Schedule 2 to this Order and is hereinafter referred to as “the Supplementary Administrative Agreement”)[3] were signed on behalf of those Governments:

And Whereas by Article 3 of the Supplementary Agreement it is provided that the Supplementary Agreement shall enter into force on the first day of the third month following the month in which each Government has received from the other Government written notification that all statutory and constitutional requirements have been complied with for entry into force of the Supplementary Agreement:

And Whereas by Article 2 of the Supplementary Administrative Agreement it is provided that the Supplementary Administrative Agreement shall enter into force on the date of entry into force of the Supplementary Agreement:

And Whereas written notification in accordance with Article 3 of the Supplementary Agreement was received by each Government on 20th June 1997 and accordingly the Supplementary Agreement and the Supplementary Administrative Agreement enter into force on the 1st September 1997:

And Whereas by section 179(1)(a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992[4] it is provided that Her Majesty may by Order in Council make provision for modifying or adapting that Act and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992[5] in their application to cases affected by agreements with other Governments providing for reciprocity in matters specified in the said section:

Now, therefore, Her Majesty, in pursuance of section 179(1)(a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and of all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is pleased, by and with the advice of Her Privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered, as follows: -

Citation and commencement
1. This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997.


Modification of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 and amendment of the Principal Order
2. The Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 shall be modified and the Principal Order shall be amended so as to give effect to the Agreement as modified by the Supplementary Agreement set out in Schedule 1 to this Order and to the Administrative Agreement as modified by the Supplementary Administrative Agreement set out in Schedule 2 to this Order, so far as the same relate to England, Wales and Scotland.

Amendment of Order
3. The reference to the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1984 shall be omitted in the Schedule to the Social Security (Reciprocal Agreements) Order 1988[6] and in Schedules 2 and 3 to the Social Security (Reciprocal Agreements) Order 1995[7].

N.H. Nicholls
Clerk of the Privy Council
SCHEDULE 1

Article 2
SUPPLEMENTARY AGREEMENT AMENDING THE AGREEMENT ON SOCIAL SECURITY BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

The Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America;

Having considered the Agreement on Social Security which was signed on their behalf at London on 13th February 1984 (hereinafter referred to as “the Agreement”);


Having recognised the need to revise certain provisions of the Agreement;

Have agreed as follows: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/statutory-instrument-1997-no-1778-the-social-security-united-states-of-america-order-1997-2820412.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Statutory_Instruments_of_the_United_Kingdom,_1997





Now I included the wiki link, you can go on there and it will take you right on to the parliamentary records if you think I am jerkin your chain. That said is it really much of a stretch that 'just maybe' world war 2 isnt quite the way you were led to believe? pitchfork







mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/19/16 08:13 PM

and whispers are a deafening scream!






Statutory Instrument 1997 No. 1778

The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997



© Crown Copyright 1997

Statutory Instruments printed from this website are printed under the superintendence and authority of the Controller of HMSO being the Queen’s Printer of Acts of Parliament.

The legislation contained on this web site is subject to Crown Copyright protection. It may be reproduced free of charge provided that it is reproduced accurately and that the source and copyright status of the material is made evident to users.




1997 No. 1778

SOCIAL SECURITY

The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997


Made 22nd July 1997
Coming into force 1st September 1997

At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 22nd day of July 1997


Present,

The Queen’s Most Excellent Majesty in Council


Whereas at London on the 13th February 1984 an Agreement on social security between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America (hereinafter referred to as “the Agreement”) and an Administrative Agreement for the implementation of the Agreement (hereinafter referred to as “the Administrative Agreement”)[1] were signed on behalf of those Governments and effect was given to the Agreement by the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1984 (hereinafter referred to as “the Principal Order”)[2]:

And Whereas at London on 6th June 1996 a Supplementary Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America (which Supplementary Agreement is set out in Schedule 1 to this Order and is hereinafter referred to as “the Supplementary Agreement”) amending the Agreement and a Supplementary Administrative Agreement amending the Administrative Agreement (which Supplementary Administrative Agreement is set out in Schedule 2 to this Order and is hereinafter referred to as “the Supplementary Administrative Agreement”)[3] were signed on behalf of those Governments:

And Whereas by Article 3 of the Supplementary Agreement it is provided that the Supplementary Agreement shall enter into force on the first day of the third month following the month in which each Government has received from the other Government written notification that all statutory and constitutional requirements have been complied with for entry into force of the Supplementary Agreement:

And Whereas by Article 2 of the Supplementary Administrative Agreement it is provided that the Supplementary Administrative Agreement shall enter into force on the date of entry into force of the Supplementary Agreement:

And Whereas written notification in accordance with Article 3 of the Supplementary Agreement was received by each Government on 20th June 1997 and accordingly the Supplementary Agreement and the Supplementary Administrative Agreement enter into force on the 1st September 1997:

And Whereas by section 179(1)(a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992[4] it is provided that Her Majesty may by Order in Council make provision for modifying or adapting that Act and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992[5] in their application to cases affected by agreements with other Governments providing for reciprocity in matters specified in the said section:

Now, therefore, Her Majesty, in pursuance of section 179(1)(a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and of all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is pleased, by and with the advice of Her Privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered, as follows: -

Citation and commencement
1. This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997.


Modification of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 and amendment of the Principal Order
2. The Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 shall be modified and the Principal Order shall be amended so as to give effect to the Agreement as modified by the Supplementary Agreement set out in Schedule 1 to this Order and to the Administrative Agreement as modified by the Supplementary Administrative Agreement set out in Schedule 2 to this Order, so far as the same relate to England, Wales and Scotland.

Amendment of Order
3. The reference to the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1984 shall be omitted in the Schedule to the Social Security (Reciprocal Agreements) Order 1988[6] and in Schedules 2 and 3 to the Social Security (Reciprocal Agreements) Order 1995[7].

N.H. Nicholls
Clerk of the Privy Council
SCHEDULE 1

Article 2
SUPPLEMENTARY AGREEMENT AMENDING THE AGREEMENT ON SOCIAL SECURITY BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

The Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America;

Having considered the Agreement on Social Security which was signed on their behalf at London on 13th February 1984 (hereinafter referred to as “the Agreement”);

Having recognised the need to revise certain provisions of the Agreement;

Have agreed as follows: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/statutory-instrument-1997-no-1778-the-social-security-united-states-of-america-order-1997-2820412.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Statutory_Instruments_of_the_United_Kingdom,_1997





Now I included the wiki link, you can go on there and it will take you right on to the parliamentary records if you think I am jerkin your chain. That said is it really much of a stretch that 'just maybe' world war 2 isnt quite the way you were led to believe? pitchfork









?? wth does all that crap mean? ww2? are you taking your meds, or not taking them or something? come in a little from left field, you're to far out there...

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Fri 02/19/16 08:24 PM
Edited by LittleLeftofRight on Fri 02/19/16 08:26 PM
Its the part of the 'HISTORY LESSON' that you left out !

I like to be thorough!







mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/19/16 08:26 PM

Its the part of the 'HISTORY LESSON' that you left out !

I like to be thorough!


umm...ok.... thanks?

LittleLeftofRight's photo
Fri 02/19/16 08:27 PM
yw

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 02/20/16 12:34 AM

and whispers are a deafening scream!






Statutory Instrument 1997 No. 1778

The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997



© Crown Copyright 1997

Statutory Instruments printed from this website are printed under the superintendence and authority of the Controller of HMSO being the Queen’s Printer of Acts of Parliament.

The legislation contained on this web site is subject to Crown Copyright protection. It may be reproduced free of charge provided that it is reproduced accurately and that the source and copyright status of the material is made evident to users.




1997 No. 1778

SOCIAL SECURITY

The Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997


Made 22nd July 1997
Coming into force 1st September 1997

At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 22nd day of July 1997


Present,

The Queen’s Most Excellent Majesty in Council


Whereas at London on the 13th February 1984 an Agreement on social security between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America (hereinafter referred to as “the Agreement”) and an Administrative Agreement for the implementation of the Agreement (hereinafter referred to as “the Administrative Agreement”)[1] were signed on behalf of those Governments and effect was given to the Agreement by the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1984 (hereinafter referred to as “the Principal Order”)[2]:

And Whereas at London on 6th June 1996 a Supplementary Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America (which Supplementary Agreement is set out in Schedule 1 to this Order and is hereinafter referred to as “the Supplementary Agreement”) amending the Agreement and a Supplementary Administrative Agreement amending the Administrative Agreement (which Supplementary Administrative Agreement is set out in Schedule 2 to this Order and is hereinafter referred to as “the Supplementary Administrative Agreement”)[3] were signed on behalf of those Governments:

And Whereas by Article 3 of the Supplementary Agreement it is provided that the Supplementary Agreement shall enter into force on the first day of the third month following the month in which each Government has received from the other Government written notification that all statutory and constitutional requirements have been complied with for entry into force of the Supplementary Agreement:

And Whereas by Article 2 of the Supplementary Administrative Agreement it is provided that the Supplementary Administrative Agreement shall enter into force on the date of entry into force of the Supplementary Agreement:

And Whereas written notification in accordance with Article 3 of the Supplementary Agreement was received by each Government on 20th June 1997 and accordingly the Supplementary Agreement and the Supplementary Administrative Agreement enter into force on the 1st September 1997:

And Whereas by section 179(1)(a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992[4] it is provided that Her Majesty may by Order in Council make provision for modifying or adapting that Act and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992[5] in their application to cases affected by agreements with other Governments providing for reciprocity in matters specified in the said section:

Now, therefore, Her Majesty, in pursuance of section 179(1)(a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and of all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is pleased, by and with the advice of Her Privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered, as follows: -

Citation and commencement
1. This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997.


Modification of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 and amendment of the Principal Order
2. The Social Security Administration Act 1992 and the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 shall be modified and the Principal Order shall be amended so as to give effect to the Agreement as modified by the Supplementary Agreement set out in Schedule 1 to this Order and to the Administrative Agreement as modified by the Supplementary Administrative Agreement set out in Schedule 2 to this Order, so far as the same relate to England, Wales and Scotland.

Amendment of Order
3. The reference to the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1984 shall be omitted in the Schedule to the Social Security (Reciprocal Agreements) Order 1988[6] and in Schedules 2 and 3 to the Social Security (Reciprocal Agreements) Order 1995[7].

N.H. Nicholls
Clerk of the Privy Council
SCHEDULE 1

Article 2
SUPPLEMENTARY AGREEMENT AMENDING THE AGREEMENT ON SOCIAL SECURITY BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND AND THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

The Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the United States of America;

Having considered the Agreement on Social Security which was signed on their behalf at London on 13th February 1984 (hereinafter referred to as “the Agreement”);


Having recognised the need to revise certain provisions of the Agreement;

Have agreed as follows: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/statutory-instrument-1997-no-1778-the-social-security-united-states-of-america-order-1997-2820412.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Statutory_Instruments_of_the_United_Kingdom,_1997





Now I included the wiki link, you can go on there and it will take you right on to the parliamentary records if you think I am jerkin your chain. That said is it really much of a stretch that 'just maybe' world war 2 isnt quite the way you were led to believe? pitchfork







'splain Lucy,'splain!

LittleLeftofRight's photo
Sat 02/20/16 05:50 AM
Well..........
Unfortunately thats only the tip of the iceberg. I already got one good snoot full of "Facts are Facts", and putting this it into perspective academically is a much larger scope that requires far more research and background than the previous quaint little discussion on Germany. So after a moments reflection on the matter I think it best for me to pass the baton to this guy who splainz it quite succinctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

Robxbox73's photo
Sat 02/20/16 07:02 AM

Well..........
Unfortunately thats only the tip of the iceberg. I already got one good snoot full of "Facts are Facts", and putting this it into perspective academically is a much larger scope that requires far more research and background than the previous quaint little discussion on Germany. So after a moments reflection on the matter I think it best for me to pass the baton to this guy who splainz it quite succinctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ


You know the first time I found out about this was 2 years after this was signed. Started checking out the angles. The first agreement between UK and the USA of this type was when social security was cooked up.

Europe had had its butt defeated by the American Army and Navy. War with Spain, England, Germany and others. America proved it was a world power. Problem was we were borrowing from Europe. All the countries were complaining about The USGOV not paying back or being very late. So the king of England went to America as a goodwill tour ploy. He went to meet with the millionaire FDR. They agreed that there needed to be a more fair way of paying Europe back. So since the UK had worked with slavery so long, they suggested making American citizens the colateral for these loans.
We would need a bank in the USGOV. let's make the Federal Reserve. We will falsely tax labor, absolutely unheard of at the time. So your SS number is a way to track each American's payment on its USGOV loan. Leona Helmsly ( a hotel millionare) was once sacrificed by the Illuminati in 1985. What led to the criminal investigation? "Only poor people pay taxes". She screamed at the maids in her hotels. That was the statement that made people start asking questions. The Illuminati thought she was tugging at the curtain that could cause a new American revolt. So she was imprisioned.

I know this is hard to belive and it made me angry as a young investigator in 86. Social Security is the system, you and I are the collateral. That's why the UK'S and American presidents since 1933 have had their finger prints all over this. Don't take my word for it find out for yourselves. The document above, its real. True to the Illuminati way of doing things they hide their actions in plain site. They say , We can do this because we have dumbed down the world populations. See were it jokingly calls it "The agreement"? Do your own investigations. Who will be president of the USGOV? whichever one they want..

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 02/20/16 07:18 AM
According to THIS:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html

Your opening post is a complete fabrication.

Sorry OP, you've been suckered by political propaganda.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/20/16 07:22 AM
1997... another liberal to add to the list... slick willie was a busy man

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/20/16 07:24 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Sat 02/20/16 07:26 AM

According to THIS:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html

Your opening post is a complete fabrication.

Sorry OP, you've been suckered by political propaganda.


a liberal government calling something that talks about liberals a myth... couldn't see that coming...

i looked them up, they are true, mostly...

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 02/20/16 07:34 AM
"True, mostly"????!!!????

Come on.

Hillary Clinton tells the truth, too, mostly. Gonna vote for her? Post her statements with your name attached?

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/20/16 07:38 AM

"True, mostly"????!!!????

Come on.

Hillary Clinton tells the truth, too, mostly. Gonna vote for her? Post her statements with your name attached?


ugh, no...

Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?


the democrats did do this, but it was the congress and senate that was controlled by the dems while Reagan was president... B. Clinton raised the taxes from 50% to 85%
so, mostly right..

Welshman4you's photo
Sat 02/20/16 09:19 AM
But you are aware that wether liberal democrat republicans are all controlled bought n paid for anyway tho moe?

Important fact of contract law,you cannot be forced into a contract.
A contract,which is what Social Security is,even though they won't admit that officially,I have tried to hand back their corporate fictional entity to them in the social security offices but they have no clue,they are just barely comprehensible automatons who don't rock the boat and are too scared of being on the unemployment lines themselves they do anything they can to forget the fact they have a heart and soul.
I have questioned my local MP,member of parliament,as to this exact issue and he sat there like an unplugged toaster unable to answer a single question coherently,when you confront these automatons it's fascinating how quickly they crumble when faced with simple questions like " if I'm born equal,and have an equitable share of my country's bounty and you government chaps are looking after it for me,where's my frickn cheque from all the lumber,oil,minerals,water,energy and foodstuffs that get bought and sold each day and how in the devil's elbows did you manage to get my country in debt when money,doesn't exist in actuality and holds no value except the sweat equity that those blinkered by their " work ethic" seem to attach to these pieces of metal and notes of cloth.
You're not free whilst your owners are trading misery in your name daily.

So,Social Security,Social,security?

Social Insecurity.
Unless you grow your own food,Monsanto owns you.
You want to be free,but freedom doesn't exist,it's a word invented to keep your nose to the grindstone.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 02/20/16 09:26 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 02/20/16 09:44 AM

Well..........
Unfortunately thats only the tip of the iceberg. I already got one good snoot full of "Facts are Facts", and putting this it into perspective academically is a much larger scope that requires far more research and background than the previous quaint little discussion on Germany. So after a moments reflection on the matter I think it best for me to pass the baton to this guy who splainz it quite succinctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

yep,YouTube,wonderful Source!laugh

you really disappoint me with your "Sources"!

Rense,Makov,Chossudovsky...............laugh

Those "Sources" are really disappointing!

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/20/16 09:27 AM

But you are aware that wether liberal democrat republicans are all controlled bought n paid for anyway tho moe?

Important fact of contract law,you cannot be forced into a contract.
A contract,which is what Social Security is,even though they won't admit that officially,I have tried to hand back their corporate fictional entity to them in the social security offices but they have no clue,they are just barely comprehensible automatons who don't rock the boat and are too scared of being on the unemployment lines themselves they do anything they can to forget the fact they have a heart and soul.
I have questioned my local MP,member of parliament,as to this exact issue and he sat there like an unplugged toaster unable to answer a single question coherently,when you confront these automatons it's fascinating how quickly they crumble when faced with simple questions like " if I'm born equal,and have an equitable share of my country's bounty and you government chaps are looking after it for me,where's my frickn cheque from all the lumber,oil,minerals,water,energy and foodstuffs that get bought and sold each day and how in the devil's elbows did you manage to get my country in debt when money,doesn't exist in actuality and holds no value except the sweat equity that those blinkered by their " work ethic" seem to attach to these pieces of metal and notes of cloth.
You're not free whilst your owners are trading misery in your name daily.

So,Social Security,Social,security?

Social Insecurity.
Unless you grow your own food,Monsanto owns you.
You want to be free,but freedom doesn't exist,it's a word invented to keep your nose to the grindstone.


true, but the whole voting system/government is based on big business/big money... lobbyists and campaign contributions should be outlawed...

no photo
Sat 02/20/16 09:28 AM


Well..........
Unfortunately thats only the tip of the iceberg. I already got one good snoot full of "Facts are Facts", and putting this it into perspective academically is a much larger scope that requires far more research and background than the previous quaint little discussion on Germany. So after a moments reflection on the matter I think it best for me to pass the baton to this guy who splainz it quite succinctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

yep,YouTube,wonderful Source!laugh
I saw a youtube video of a guy farting in a jug and smelling it...what a great source rofl

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 02/20/16 09:32 AM



Well..........
Unfortunately thats only the tip of the iceberg. I already got one good snoot full of "Facts are Facts", and putting this it into perspective academically is a much larger scope that requires far more research and background than the previous quaint little discussion on Germany. So after a moments reflection on the matter I think it best for me to pass the baton to this guy who splainz it quite succinctly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

yep,YouTube,wonderful Source!laugh
I saw a youtube video of a guy farting in a jug and smelling it...what a great source rofl

Bottom Of The Jug,if you will!laugh

Welshman4you's photo
Sat 02/20/16 09:42 AM
Agreed.
But that doesn't solve the problem.
The point is you cannot rescind your social security number,and even if you could it'd only give them more control.
Truth is this,people are either too lazy dumb or incapable of looking after themselves after years of indoctrination by governments schools and media that if they could be free most people don't have the skills knowledge or confidence to exist outside of a sterilised environment.

When all sides are the same side,and when all other avenues of thought lead only back to money control and power then it's inevitable people catch onto the charade they are living and stop working for these big corporations and buying their crap to begin with.

Only when we are all free of money and it's burden will we be free. All empires collapse,the current one is going down the tubes,fast,social economics will become fighting your neighbour ( you know,the guy you've lived opposite from for 7 years but never said hello to?,that guy) over whose gonna eat the last piece of cat somebody trapped!

Or tryna catch a drink of water that hasn't been contaminated by fracking or pesticides.
Of course,that'll just be the beginning.
New diseases,fake vaccines,hunger and starvation,no jobs,unable to grow food,it'll be mad Max times. Only a matter of time and pressure.

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