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that's an interesting suggestion , Igor do you have any insight into how increased police presence affects criminal offense rates? I am going to look it up but it would be quicker if you could contribute that to the discussion 
It's not the kind of thing that can be deduced from statistics, because all the elements involved are fluid and changing. Criminal activity has never been a steady-state, easily measurable function. If criminal activity increases by thirty percent, during a time when the number of law officers to oppose it are increased ten percent, and the measurements taken are number of crimes versus number of police officers, the "data" collected would appear to prove that increasing police presence causes an INCREASE in crime. I am not aware of anyone collecting sufficiently comprehensive data to prove conclusively that having more and better trained police is an effective way to deal with crime. Nor has anyone even attempted to do the same thing, to try to prove the opposite. Support for the idea that an armed populace leads to a reduction in crime, is similarly lacking. For all points of view about this, we have only anecdotal support. and most of the anecdotes we have, point to trained police being the best solution to all criminal situations. |
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I am opposed to all of the recent efforts here and elsewhere, to shuffle off the duties of government, to the general citizenry. It's all part of trying to reduce the cost of government through the most thoughtless and immediate ways possible. The correct way to deal with an increase of criminal behavior of the citizenry (and immigrants etc) is to increase on site police protection. Simply decreasing restrictions on personal arms, and encouraging citizens to decide for themselves, with no training or preparation whatsoever to enforce whatever laws they imagine exist, is straight up stupidity. And self-righteous posturing about "rights" to cover up the fact that this is really just about keeping low taxes on the people in power, is dishonorable. If police were assigned to every person so there was always a police presence your theory would work. Crime for the most part doesn't occur in the presence of police. Most crime that police deal with is after the fact. How many rapes are stopped by police? How many home invasions are stopped by police? Even in areas with KNOWN gang activity, with a heavy police presence, are gang shootings stopped? Protection, be it from violence, robbery, cyber attacks or any other threat is more effective when personal protection is employed. Suggesting that that people shouldn't use whatever means necessary to protect themselves is what is straight up stupidity. that's not the liberal way... the libs want sheep, so they can protect you and you should never have to learn how to protect yourself from anything... just throw more cops(and money) at it so you will feel safe... but they can't control the public as easy if everyone learned to protect themselves.. |
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Cologne (Germany) is every day’: Europe’s rape epidemic
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/cologne-is-every-day-europes-rape-epidemic/news-story/e2e618e17ad4400b5ed65045e65e141d/ 
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I think most Germans would agree,
that Mangela Erkel would look so much finer in a burka. What I don't get, is how Germans, and other Europeans have become so complacent, as to allow this shari'a crap to take root. |
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German Justice Minister blames Cologne rapes on sexy billboards
http://youtu.be/yUsV2rbDqR4/ 3:34 German Justice Minister blames Cologne rapes on... sexy billboards? Published on Apr 14, 2016Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media looks at the German authorities' latest attempt to shift blame for those mass sexual assaults in Cologne to anyone or anything except the perpetrators: Muslim migrants. Here's the latest! http://www.therebel.media/germany_cologne_sex_assaults_on_racy_billboards/ therebel.media (Canada) Germany: Justice Minister blames Cologne sex assaults on racy billboards, wants them BANNED Do you remember when the German government covered up the mass sexual assaults in the city of Cologne on New year’s Eve? The mayor was in on it, the local police chief, and even the federal German justice minister. Here’s Justice Minister Heiko Maas back then: ”Making this an issue by over-simplifications, and connecting it to the refugee issue… Is nothing but a misuse of the discussion.” Well, Heiko Maas is back with another insane idea: He wants to ban billboards that have women on them, because he says they contributed to the mass sexual assault and rape on New Year’s. Right: These misogynist, sexist, gay-bashing, Jew-hating Muslim migrants streaming in from sharia-dominated, terrorist-infested dictatorships — they would have all been peace-loving Europeans, doing yoga and attending feminist film festivals, were it not for those billboards. It’s stupid. It’s blaming the victim — that is, Germany's liberal society. 
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wow,, are they saying they wont scapegoat a certain group of crimes of one demographic against a second demographic,, until they aknowledge and address that crime exists within the second group itself?
how silly,,,, |
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wow,, are they saying they wont scapegoat a certain group of crimes of one demographic against a second demographic,, until they aknowledge and address that crime exists within the second group itself? how silly,,,,  NO
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right
a group of refugees committed sexual assault against citizens and those in charge chose instead, to focus on how many more sexual assaults are already happening between citizens while citizens want them to highlight the actions of the refugees first sound familiar |
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Lpdon
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Fri 04/15/16 11:43 PM
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A German rail operator is introducing woman-only carriages. Is this progressive or depressing? By Barbara Speed 
Soon to be segregated. Clic17 at Wikimedia Commons. Germany just became the first western European country this century to introduce women-only carriages on a part of its public transport network. There's a lot to unpick here, but let's start with the basics. The Mitteldeutsche Regiobahn, a privately-owned German train line running between Leipzig and Chemnitz, announced this week that it will introduce two women-only carriage on trains running on this line. Boys under the age of 10 will also be allowed in, and the carriage will be located next to the conductor's office. Publications were quick to leap on the fact that Cologne – the city where around 1,000 men gathered outside the train station to harass women on New Year's Eve – is also in Germany. Yet the train line has denied that the move has anything to do with the attacks, or the fact that the only man charged was charged just days before the announcement. In fact, Mitteldeutsche Regiobahn hasn't said much at all about its decision to introduce the carriages, beyond denying that the Cologne attacks affected it. I approached a spokesperson, who said that the move was in response to customer requests: The women compartments are train compartments especially for alone travelling women... We implemented those compartments on customer's request. It is our first priority that our customers feel comfortable and safe at any time during their travel experience with us. Separate but equal? Segregated transport is used around the world (in India, Russia, Mexico, and Japan) to reduce the risk of sexual harassment. Transport is, unfortunately, a very common site for harassment around the world, as a recent Reuters report revealed. Researchers found that in Bogota, the city ranked most dangerous, 82 per cent of women did not feel safe on public transport. Yet the "solution" of segregated carriages is a pragmatic, not idealistic, one. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was slammed when he implied that we could consider something similar in the UK, but his comments were actually based on consultations with groups of women, who admitted that they would feel safer in their own carriage, at times. On a practical level, a major objection to segregated carriages on metro systems it that they could actually attract sexual predators, especially at night when trains are emptier. The German scheme has a fix for this in the form of the carriage's positioning near onboard staff. There's a strong argument that staffing trains and tubes better might solve the problem such that separate carriages aren't needed in the first place. Yet wherever their location, segregated carriages still fall into the same trap as the advice handed out to women by the mayor of Cologne shortly after the New Year's attacks: it asks women to modify their behaviour, as opposed to tackling harassment at its source. Perhaps it's a necessary step, for now – but it won't make transport safer in any real sense. http://www.citymetric.com/transport/german-rail-operator-introducing-woman-only-carriages-progressive-or-depressing-1956/ Islamification is beginning. |
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A German rail operator is introducing woman-only carriages. Is this progressive or depressing? By Barbara Speed
Soon to be segregated. Clic17 at Wikimedia Commons. Germany just became the first western European country this century to introduce women-only carriages on a part of its public transport network. There's a lot to unpick here, but let's start with the basics. The Mitteldeutsche Regiobahn, a privately-owned German train line running between Leipzig and Chemnitz, announced this week that it will introduce two women-only carriage on trains running on this line. Boys under the age of 10 will also be allowed in, and the carriage will be located next to the conductor's office. Publications were quick to leap on the fact that Cologne – the city where around 1,000 men gathered outside the train station to harass women on New Year's Eve – is also in Germany. Yet the train line has denied that the move has anything to do with the attacks, or the fact that the only man charged was charged just days before the announcement. In fact, Mitteldeutsche Regiobahn hasn't said much at all about its decision to introduce the carriages, beyond denying that the Cologne attacks affected it. I approached a spokesperson, who said that the move was in response to customer requests: The women compartments are train compartments especially for alone travelling women... We implemented those compartments on customer's request. It is our first priority that our customers feel comfortable and safe at any time during their travel experience with us. Separate but equal? Segregated transport is used around the world (in India, Russia, Mexico, and Japan) to reduce the risk of sexual harassment. Transport is, unfortunately, a very common site for harassment around the world, as a recent Reuters report revealed. Researchers found that in Bogota, the city ranked most dangerous, 82 per cent of women did not feel safe on public transport. Yet the "solution" of segregated carriages is a pragmatic, not idealistic, one. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was slammed when he implied that we could consider something similar in the UK, but his comments were actually based on consultations with groups of women, who admitted that they would feel safer in their own carriage, at times. On a practical level, a major objection to segregated carriages on metro systems it that they could actually attract sexual predators, especially at night when trains are emptier. The German scheme has a fix for this in the form of the carriage's positioning near onboard staff. There's a strong argument that staffing trains and tubes better might solve the problem such that separate carriages aren't needed in the first place. Yet wherever their location, segregated carriages still fall into the same trap as the advice handed out to women by the mayor of Cologne shortly after the New Year's attacks: it asks women to modify their behaviour, as opposed to tackling harassment at its source. Perhaps it's a necessary step, for now – but it won't make transport safer in any real sense. http://www.citymetric.com/transport/german-rail-operator-introducing-woman-only-carriages-progressive-or-depressing-1956/ Islamification is beginning. 
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