Topic: Depression
darkmeans's photo
Sat 01/07/17 09:08 AM
Can true love(being with someone who understands you) kill depression?

Why is it that it is hard for a depressed person to find true love?

NotPay4Play's photo
Sat 01/07/17 09:27 AM
Mostly probably because with depression the chemical imbalance is linked to the pleasure chemical seratonin. Thus making it difficult for them to love or even feel they are worthy enough of any one else's love.

mysticalview21's photo
Mon 03/06/17 12:27 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Mon 03/06/17 12:59 PM

Mostly probably because with depression the chemical imbalance is linked to the pleasure chemical seratonin. Thus making it difficult for them to love or even feel they are worthy enough of any one else's love.



I do agree with you ... my emotions are like that sometimes ...
I do go back and forth with myself... with worthy enough ...
never look at it that way... thanks ...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 03/06/17 02:39 PM

Mostly probably because with depression the chemical imbalance is linked to the pleasure chemical seratonin. Thus making it difficult for them to love or even feel they are worthy enough of any one else's love.


Great point!

Understand that everyone gets depressed. Not everyone has a chemical imbalance. Once the imbalance is corrected depression can remain unless they work to remove the triggers that cycle the depression.

Some will swear that substitution works, others say hard work kills it. What worked for me may not work for you. Depression is not the same for everyone. Its not like getting the flu.

Falling in love might remove the depression for a time only to have it rear its ugly head later. There is usually a source to depression. Sometimes it is the chemical imbalance. Other times it could be a childhood trauma or death of a loved one. Its different for everyone. Sometimes it is a mix of conditions and traumas. One thing is certainly common, depression is self-sustaining and its up to you to break the cycle.

I recommend peeling back the layers of delusion and looking at your true self. Understanding yourself can help you identify and then stop the negative thoughts that build into depressive thinking.

A psychiatrist treats your depression with medicine.
A psychologist treats your depression with counseling.
Neither can cure your depression for you.
The cure must come from within yourself.

no photo
Tue 03/07/17 11:31 AM
Really good answers guys! So happy to go on here and read posts that are helpful and informative you both get A"s

no photo
Tue 03/07/17 05:15 PM
Depression is very real to more people then we think. Depression is a bi product of chemical imbalances in the brain such as Bi Polar.

The good news is that is can be treated.. the bad news is that many of these mental illnesses can not be cured.

They can not be cured because the medical industry does not fully understand the human brain and its many functions.

One of the problems it that there is now a pill for everything, but for people with Bi Polar, that " pill" is actually a cocktail of many pills, all taken daily and all trying to regulate and normalize the brain... level it out.
In living with a loved one with Bi Polar and depression for many years. at times I did not know what was worse.. the illness or the meds.

And God forbid they go off the meds... not a pretty situation.



no1phD's photo
Tue 03/07/17 05:19 PM
Why is it so hard for a depressed person to find love...
Ummm...
Because you are always looking down at your feet ..rather than in people's eyes.. or you don't go out.. anymore..
You have to Shake It Off..
It might take you awhile you might burn through one or two short-term relationships... because until you get over your depression you will not be able to really connect with anyone...
So figure out your issue.. confront it.. wrap it up in a nice little box..

Then walk over to the nearest bridge..
Hmmm.. okay maybe not a bridge at this point... better yet just take it and throw it right in the garbage can outside where they pick up the garbage... and then get on with getting on..

no photo
Tue 03/07/17 05:21 PM
I think it's important to emphasise the difference between depressed and depression. One is momentary the other can be an affliction that one endures for a lifetime.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Tue 03/07/17 06:06 PM
Another variation on the good answers so far...

I suffered greatly from depression earlier in my life, and in struggling with it, I learned a few things.

One, in relation to the question here, is that "true love" does NOT cause depression to go away. Once a real, heavy duty depression gets a hold on you, someone telling you how much they care, can actually make things worse, because it adds a sense of obligation on top of the overall sense of helplessness that you are already suffering.

As to why most people aren't attracted to depressed people, that's a lot more obvious. It isn't the idea that depressed people are weak, as many seem to think, it's more basic. A depressed person seems less physically HEALTHY. And since the most basic "purpose" of the attraction reaction is to generate offspring, it's only natural that our genetics would tend to make us be attracted to the healthiest mates. This is why "looks" matter so much, as well as the secondary version of "looks," which is WEALTH.

Now, just because our genetics tells us to go have sex with the hottest rich athletes out there, doesn't mean that it's RIGHT or MORAL or even GOOD FOR THE SPECIES to run your life that way, that's an entirely separate issue.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 03/08/17 08:03 AM
Not all depression is linked to a chemical imbalance.
Not all chemical imbalanced depressions are incurable.

While most sufferers of chemical imbalance depression must stay on their meds not all require meds for their lifetime.

When I was fighting suicide years back, I sought help, got the meds and the counseling I needed. My PTSD was treated by the VA effectively. (They have a lot of experience in that) The psychiatrist prescribed one common drug that had no effect on my depression but felt good. I told them it wasn't working so they put me on a different drug at a lower dose. I felt the change with the second drug in a matter of days. I was able to think clearer.

I was on that low dose drug for 3 years while talking with a psychologist. Those sessions are where I found out how badly deluded my thinking was, the drug allowed me to redirect my thinking to the here and now. My psychologist took me off the drug and I have been off depression meds ever since.

It was a combination of things that helped me overcome my depression.
Just remember, what worked for me may not work for everyone.

The low dose 37.5mg venlafaxine helped me think clearer and slower which allowed me time to process my thoughts. She took me off the meds in 3 years because they started to give me a headache and they were no longer having the intended effect. She told me to think of the meds as braces on teeth.

The counseling identified the delusional thinking that reinforced my depressive state allowing me to reasonably redirect my thoughts to break the cycle.

I changed the physical things in my life that contributed to my depression.
> Started wearing brighter clothing.
> Raised the blinds and allowed the sun to shine in on me.
> Removed caustic people from my associations.
> Started building my self-esteem, learned that its okay to like yourself.
> Changed my music listening choices to more upbeat happier music.
> Found a hobby that makes me content, to keep myself occupied.
> Started eating foods for my blood type.

I looked at my thinking and made changes to how I saw things. I started looking at the reasons things were happening in my life and removed the delusions I built to justify them. It was hard sometimes and I still struggle with some of the delusions. I suspect that some delusions are needed for personal comfort. Once a delusion is lifted it is very difficult to impossible to re-delude yourself.

> I stopped lying to myself and as a side-effect I found it hard to lie to others.
> I stopped putting value on and energy into things that really don't matter. I removed a lot of meaningless things and people from my life.
> I realized that life is just the state of being alive and that nothing is a given. That without me being alive, nothing can matter.
> I realized that I don't have to live up to anyone else's expectations. I set my own standards for living. Those standards happened to be higher in quality than I had been tolerating.
> I found that I was no longer interested in other people's drama and misery.

With less inner conflict and turmoil my stress levels decreased significantly. I learned to recognize the stressors that set me on fire and found out they were mostly from not letting my emotions flow naturally. The result was that I was more content most of the time. I realized that being content gave me joy for living. I still have emotions, I now have control over them. If I get happy or sad or angry I allow them to be as long as the feeling is there but I don't try to hold onto them once the feeling passes.

Anger was my worst enemy. I was constantly mad at the world. I felt helpless to do anything about it so my depression used that anger to reinforce itself. Now if I get angry, I look at what I am angry about. I ask myself if there is anything I can do right now about what is making me angry. If so, I do it and remove the anger and let it pass. If there is nothing I can do about it right now. I let it go. When I can do something, I do. I also realize that sometimes I just can't do anything about it and let it go. I still get angry but I don't stay mad anymore.

The one thing that we all must remember is that we are all different. There are people that need meds for the rest of their lives. There are people that cannot control their thinking to make the changes that they need. For those few with the ability to make those changes, it takes a lot of changes within to make the depression stop. Sometimes it requires a complete redefining of your life. Just remember, It is always your life and you tolerate what you do because of your own choices. If you are in a situation that makes you depressed, its up to you to make the change.



no photo
Sat 05/27/17 07:55 PM
Nice advise.. That's true.. we have to keep moving.. and never quit finding someone.. anyway, life is all but risk.. just go with the flow and enjoy life..

riorivaco88's photo
Sat 05/27/17 08:31 PM
its so hard
iam sorry dad, mommy, lovely ..

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 05/27/17 09:01 PM

its so hard
iam sorry dad, mommy, lovely ..


Sorry is a reinforcing depression state.
A justification to be depressed.
Think about it...

dreamerana's photo
Sat 05/27/17 10:09 PM
I can't offer you anything that hasn't already been said. I hope each day gets better