As humans, we often overestimate/underestimate the time we have .

Whether it be in a day, a month, or a lifetime, we can live 'in the moment' , we can live in constant 'preparation' for some future event,, or we can live somewhere in between

I try to take it a day at a time. Some time set aside to 'work', some set aside to 'relax', some set aside for eating, and chores, and bonding with loved ones and connecting to the world

a common refrain I hear in debate where one is engaged in something another disapproves of is 'instead of doing X , they should be doing Y' as if we are not beings capable of multitasking or even including many different activities into our daily, weekly, monthly schedule.


even in politics, people often question the location of someone in authority why x or y was happening somewhere else,, as if the digital age has not surpassed the time that such authorities have to be tied to a geographical location to stay informed, in touch, or in action

we also hear the question of why they addressed x but not y, as if there is an endless supply of information about everything happening everywhere that should be addressed at all times equally,,,

of course, balance is a respectable goal,,, all work and no play drives one fairly unsociable and possibly psychotic,,,,but all play and no work can certainly create a listful spririt


but we can fit into our lives multiple events, activities and interests besides work or even family


is there a formula where people are working 'enough', or bonding with family 'enough',, ,,or looking for work 'enough'?

trust me, I have looked for work several times in my nearly fifty years, and there is a limited pool once you consider skillset and geographical compatibility,,,,,,,but I can't tell you how many times I have heard people belittle the unemployed if they see them doing anything not job hunt related


does it offend our senses that anyone does anything other than work (unless they are wealthy) ? do we require those who are struggling to appear the right kind of 'struggling' to us? do we require those in authority to give priorities to everything that is a priority to us, or to every issue equally and always?

Hmm. Not sure what to take away from this topic. but right now I'm feeling.. like time is wasting.. like I need to run out and buy a grave plot..lol..jk..

as long as you aren't wasting your time,,,

I ain't mad at ya

Lol..it's all about balance...
Sometimes hard to achieve..
But I believe each person knows when they're slacking off a little too much..lol.. its that little voice you hear in the back of your head ..the tells you to put down the video game controller and go do something else..lol

uggh, I do not like video games

but I can watch movies for hours,,lol

everybody got their something,,,

That seems to be like asking "how much money is enough?"
or "How much love is enough?"

IMO the best answer would be something like "as much as it takes for someone to start naturally taking it for granted so their naturally occurring level of worry isn't fixated on procuring more."


For each individual?
Probably, although it will change as life situation, desires, identity, values, needs, etc. changes.
A universal formula applicable to every individual?
IMO no.


Depends on how much less work and effort they put forth for at least the same rewards as myself.
If they get equal to or more than me, for less work and effort, I am offended. Most especially if it's obtained from what is stolen from my work and effort by the government through taxation.


Of course.
It's all part of the social structure.
The myths of fairness and balance through things like meritocracy and effort.
Part of the "big lies" people accept which are really simply means of legitimizing the status quo of the dominant group.


Individual people only feel safe in groups. Hardwired into the DNA.
Even people that think they're rational human beings focused on independence, truth, balance, and self reliance.
Everyone's identity is helped shape through their group membership.

See yourself as a woman? That's a group. A minority? That's a group. Long hair? That's a group. Single mother? Wife? That's a group. Level of education? Street smarts? Book smarts? Intelligence? Brown eyes? Like pizza? Democrat? Centrist? Group, group group, etc.

Groups constantly vie for superiority, dominance, and control.
Individuals survive through the group, group has to fight to survive to protect the individuals.
Without groups people really have no identity.
No identity = no value, no value = kicked out to run from predators and scavenge.

How individuals know they are in the dominant group is if the leaders of the dominant group address what is important to the individual as individuals have shaped their identity in line with group demands, boundaries, rules, and expectations.

If those in authority are giving priority to what the individual thinks it should, then the individual must be in the most powerful and therefore most safe and prone to favoritism group.
If those in authority are not giving priority to what the individual thinks it should, then there's insecurity, potential ostracization, potential danger.

Then it's time to figure out "should I change to the new group? Should I infect the new group to get it to be like mine? Or should our group attack and kill that group?"
Then it's a matter of figuring out the least amount of effort and energy that needs to be expended for the most amount of desired gain, within the boundaries of identity and group expectations/rules.

We require those in authority to reflect our interests.

Time is infinite....there will never be enough time to do everything rather we have all the time to do great things and of value for we can do so much more as long as we live. The time we spend in doing something, may it be short or long, what matters is we spend quality time by doing our best and putting our heart into something that matters to us. Time is valuable, use it with a purpose by giving meaning to your life. Time is all we've got in this world and our existence .......what matters to me may not matter to you or to anyone but still, do what you gotta do for you will never know what the future will bring you and what's going to happen. Live with a purpose , the time bestowed upon us is limitless but our life has a limit......use your time wisely

iF YOU DIDN'T GET 'IT' DONE, THEN THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME. (capslocked)

Time keeps on slipping slipping slipping into the future.

It's all relative: needs, obligations, expectations of what should have been done versus urgency and obstacles, accepted excuses and interruptions.

Child time is very different to adult time, but still the same.
Geologic time, lunar time, solar time, galactic time, rosemary and thyme.

A lot happens in 10 seconds of motor accident; not much happens on a rainy weekend.

I like the "simpsons" when Homer eats FUGU and may die, does lots in a mad panic, then watches crap on the TV, wasting time.

Traveling at great speed affects time with the traveler, relative to 'non-travelers'.

Time is just our interpretation of the deviation from flatness in the time/space continuum.

It's on my side.

But on other planes of existence, it is different again, or non-existent.
Other cultures treat time differently to western european 'culture'.

What is time inside a quark or neutrino; it's bound to be very different again.

If you haven't the time to do what you want, but have plenty of money, cut back the work hours. Without a balance of fun time to make life worthwhile, it becomes slavery. 30 hour weeks are a good thing, if you are not massively in debt. Being unemployed with money in the bank doesn't last long but gets a lot done if you don't waste time sleeping in.

Seasonal work is 'all go' flat out, then lots of free time but scrimp and save 'till the next income.

Casual employment can send you broke while giving too much free time.

My time is now UP!

msharmony,

There are many discussion points in your topic. As a whole what I take away from it is that you are feeling pressure from some person or people in your life that makes you feel inadequate. In this instance it is how you are using your time to accomplish goals.

I'll ask you to consider (no need to post your answer) this:
Are you content with your life right now? If not, Why?

If your answer is based on what someone else has convinced you is important and you are not fulfilling their request are you feeling anxiety over your desires not being met or theirs?

If you are an adult, do you need to be told how to act and why to act that way by someone else? Why?

You might consider getting out a pencil and paper and writing down two columns labeled "MINE" and "THEIRS".
Under each, list the things you are doing or will do using the 'reason for it' as a determination to which column it goes under.
Be honest.
Include what you 'Want To Do' as well.
Are your desires your own or are they imposed upon you by someone else?
When you think you have all the stuff listed you can think of, put the paper(s) away and sleep.

After you sleep, look at the list again and see if you can add more. Look at each item you wrote and take it apart to see if you accurately placed it in the right column.
Make a new list based on your personal revelations.
Do this everyday for a week but keep all the lists.
After a week, look at the lists - all of them.
Which items always appear in the MINE column?
Those are the only items that matter - the rest is others trying to impose their will on you.
It is YOUR life. Live it for YOU.

Socially acceptable behavior does not mean it is right for you. It means that it is right for society. You are not society. You are you. There is not one single person on this planet that knows what is best for you except you.

Know yourself.
Know what is possible right now in your life.
Know what you want (your desires).
Determine what you can do to fulfill those desires right now.
Perform those functions as they present opportunity to do so.

Remember, you may not be able to do everything you need to do right now, do what you can now to make doing what you need to do later possible.
Acknowledge those limitations and understand that if you can't do anything now, there is no reason to stress over it.
When the time and opportunity occurs take the actions you decide.
Learn from any mistakes or unforeseen outcomes.

great advice

it did not pertain to me, just a general observation,,,but thank you

still , great advice as well

If time was all that existed would it know?

I used to do that. I don't live one day at a time. I take it moment by moment. In my life I have found that things happen/set up to happen on a moment's notice.


This is someone else's observation of life. For me, I loved my job and my playtime. I had different forms of enjoyment from both.
No longer able to work and not able to be engaged in socially acceptable activities doesn't mean I am not enjoying my life. When you get sick and set on death's doorstep you tend to look at your mortality and the time spent appeasing others. It is amazing just how delusional we can be.


Here is a question for your question:
Why would you feel you need to live up to anything or anyone besides yourself? The formula you seek is one that only you can determine.


Thank you. It doesn't really matter does it? I can only be 'belittled' when I give permission. I don't give those permissions.


I rarely get offended by anyone. I rarely expect anything from anyone.
There is nobody more qualified to live my life than me.
I am not qualified to live anyone else's life either.
I'll offer my opinions and advice based on my own experiences and morals but I don't require anyone to adhere to them. Only consider them and make the decisions right for them. We are all different.


Yup - Stress leads to more stress


Key concept is a comparison of others to yourself.
The main thing to take away from this is that our world is not fair. Thinking it should be fair is a delusion.


Accurate again.
I am not in the dominate group. I am unique and I like it that way. To me society is a grand delusion imposed on the individual by the masses.


I can't agree with this. It would be more accurate if it read
SOME Individual people only feel safe in groups. Hardwired into SOME BEHAVIOR TRAITS.


LOL, that's funny.
I am alone. I have no social structure except the one I create online. When I say alone it means alone. I let the world go about its business and I go about mine. I don't get phone calls, don't go places with anyone and nobody comes to visit. Nobody cares, I understand and accept it. I have been in many social groups during my life and one thing I learned about them is they are all just ways to 'feel' accepted by others. Personally, I have realized that if you can't accept me for who I am then don't. My world will not perish without you.


Authority, most have no idea what authority means. Authority is a social measure imposed upon you by others. It is like Rights. Rights are qualifications granted to you by others. Life gives no authority or rights. Command a rock to dance or step into a volcano. You think you have authority over someone if they allow it. Someone has authority over you if you allow it. Life does not give you the right to life. Nature will kill you if it gets the chance.
Personal morals are morals we have learned that dictate how we live. Some morals coincide with rights and authority. I did not kill you because killing is immoral to me but someone else that does not hold that moral fortitude may kill you no matter what authority or rights dictate.

The delusion that society establishes shapes who you are. Some of the delusions are needed but all delusions are lies. We are shaped by lies and then we wonder why we are stressed? We are forced by society and authority to act and feel contrary to our own life experiences sometimes. We build our expectations based on the delusions we are given and by the ones we give ourselves. When reality steps in and the delusions fall we get stressed out. Its all pretty silly.


Agreed.
Some people's something is not their own as well.
Knowing this helps your something be yours.

Time was very important to me in my youth. I had obligations that required me to manage my time effectively. When I didn't I was forced to deal with the outcome.
Since I got sick and almost died Time has become a non-issue. If I have an appointment I adjust accordingly but for the most part I have no watch on time, besides idle curiosity.
The hustle and bustle of my life has moved to a more insightful and relaxing stage. I still maintain a schedule...take meds at prescribed time, go to bed/wake at a prescribed time, pay my bills at a prescribed time and so on. The difference is I am no longer locked into it as I was.

If I find someone special to share my life with and to share hers with me I will adopt a schedule that reflects our commitments to each other. Personally I am not one to make a commitment that I do not hold. If I say I will be somewhere or do something at a specific time I make every effort I can to keep my word. There are/will be times when unforeseen circumstances get in the way of my commitment. I evaluate and make changes. Time is not may master. Is it yours?

I have a very subtle and off-the-direct response to this for you to consider.

It has to do with the nature of language, and how it affects how we perceive and sometimes distort our lives, often without anyone involved realizing that the distortion is occurring.

It starts with a simple thing: the use of a common word, in how we talk about all the things you listed. That word in this case, is time, as well as the phrases that the word time is a part of.

Because we use the same word, and even the same phrases ("enough time", "take the time", "spend the time", and so on...we can assume (incorrectly perhaps) that all the things involved, are related to each other. So being humans, who by their nature seem to have an urge to build understandings and concepts, to use as tools to both ease our lives, and to validate them...we come to conclusions; make judgments; even pass laws, or change philosophies.

But sometimes, the words DON'T make the things a part of the same thing, and the adjustments and rules and judgments we make, are incorrect, even destructive.

In this case, for example, when someone proclaims that another person didn't "invest as much time" as they should have, that is often a JUDGEMENT, which only peripherally has to do with Time. Instead, the judgment is about VALUING AND BEING VALUED. It is only talked about with the word Time, because someone has chosen Time as a sort of representative CURRENCY, which they have decided to use to artificially measure someone's dedication.

Once we get caught up with TIME being the culprit, we can wax philosophical about the meaning of Time, create products and businesses to "save" time, and start making recommendations to everyone about what proportion of Time to assign to each part of life.

But if what's true is that Time is just the "MEASUREMENT CURRENCY" of the situation, and not the essence of the situation itself, all of the social structures we erect, the chastisements we hand out, the "solutions" we thrust into place to deal with the concern, can actually become an additional problem/burden for us to deal with.

I think this all might apply to a number of things in the opening post list. Some are actually about validation of a mutual sense of values. Some are about establishing confidence in authority. Some are about taking responsibility, and communicating genuine dedication, and so on. But all of them share the "currency" of Time, in different ways.

It's my opinion, despite my very strong belief in and affection for "Big Picture" conceptualizations, that in many cases, it is much better to deal directly with the details, independently. And I think many of these are the case.

I love the analogy to currency,, spot on

people can perceive the 'value' placed on something by the 'time' that was spent on it,,,

A wonderful addition to this discussion.

All my life I have communicated in generalizations. It is because I was taught to communicate in generalizations. Lately, it is my belief that those generalizations are not effective communication.

There are few that actually say what they mean and mean what they say. I don't think it is a purposeful tactic as much as a lack of understanding. An ignorance.

Now, If you use that word "ignorant" there are some that understand the actual meaning but there are more that become offended due to their lack of understanding of what the word actually means. It creates an incorrect assumption on their part.

Those incorrect assumptions are everywhere in communication. I know because I am guilty of some myself.
Incorrect assumptions that I have made or learned by interacting with others displaying those incorrect assumptions.

Being aware of this, I try to reduce those assumptions and say what I mean. I used to be really facetious when I communicated.

Forums and discussion groups often result in facetious comments when the intended message is not understood. Often it is mislabeled as funny or humorous. It actually breaks the intended discussion.

I think we all should remember that we are all different in how we communicate. Attempt to understand the "intent" of the comment and go from there. When we are incorrect about that understanding not take offense but clarify our meaning.

The only thing I know about what you write is how I understand it.

I use the words that you give me to get that understanding.

If you write the wrong words to convey your meaning it is not my fault if I didn't understand.

Time would make a great replacement for currency.

1 hour of labour or skill is 1 hour out of my life used up.
1 hour out of a lawyer's, doctor's, dentist's, real estate agent's life is worth no more or less value than mine. Sure they paid to study skills but that's their choice, and doesn't make them any better or more value than me.
Maybe they can get more done in an allotted time with their acquired skills than me in their field of expertise, but we all have out own skills, which mostly are of no less value than theirs or others'.

I spend an hour working for you and you pay me back with an hour of your life, or some other agreed person's hour of skill, in an organised co-op, trading in hours, not fake values like IOU's, promisory notes, transient value of gold, etc.

Less chance of getting ripped off by overpaid people, unless you worked for someone who then absconded, died or became terminally hospitalised.

notbeold,,

there was a cool movie called 'In Time' that was based on that premise

its been a while since I Watched it, but I think at like 16 or 18, you got a set amount of time 'tattooed' on your arm

when you worked or produced, more time was added, when you didn't, the clock ticked down

people also gambled their 'time' to others,, but when the clock got to zero,,,zap and you were dead


,,it was an interesting film

except even in this fictional concept, the wealthy and privileged had ways to accumulate disgustingly large blocks of time,, making them virtually immortal

just at the sematary the other day ... they still have rm and having a sale lmao would u like the name of this place


and Ms I am sure you have heard all of the sayings ...

Time flies when your having fun ...

Time waits for know one ... good song

the crow has know since of time...

Time is of the essence...

does time go by faster... when we are older ... feels like it ...