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Topic: " You So Synthetic...Clones in Politics & TV"
EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Wed 03/15/17 09:29 AM
"Tom4UHere",

Hey Buddy welcome back, I get that all the time that the bible was tampered with, yes it was but what holy book wasn't? You have to read the bible with a spiritual perspective not the 20/20. America in a lot of ways when it comes to technology is far innovative like Nazi Germany was. America only show you what it wants you to know. I'm quite sure someday reverse engineering where in the future they will reengineer down alien ships and used them for interstellar travel to other planets, war purposes, maybe even use them for commercial vessels instead of airplanes. They mastered cloning. They master time travel, & they will master weather manipulation as well.

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Wed 03/15/17 10:05 AM

"Tom4UHere",

Hey Buddy welcome back, I get that all the time that the bible was tampered with, yes it was but what holy book wasn't? You have to read the bible with a spiritual perspective not the 20/20. America in a lot of ways when it comes to technology is far innovative like Nazi Germany was. America only show you what it wants you to know. I'm quite sure someday reverse engineering where in the future they will reengineer down alien ships and used them for interstellar travel to other planets, war purposes, maybe even use them for commercial vessels instead of airplanes. They mastered cloning. They master time travel, & they will master weather manipulation as well.


I would like you to take the time to read



Engines of Creation
The Coming Era of Nanotechnology
by K. Eric Drexler

Its free online at
http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Table_of_Contents.html

Nanotechnology is a real science. This small book gives you a glimpse of what it could do.
If your replacement clones could exist nanotechnology is the science that will make it possible and more.
Drexler is pretty easy to understand and the writing is easy to follow.

As for time travel I have serious reservations about it concerning relativity and gravitational waves not to mention matter positioning. Travel into the past is impossible but into the future could be probable with certain restrictions.

Who says aliens use ships?

According to the Kardashev Scale, We are currently in a Type 0 civilization. In Type 1, A Type I designation is a given to species who have been able to harness all the energy that is available from a neighboring star, gathering and storing it to meet the energy demands of a growing population. This means that we would need to boost our current energy production over 100,000 times to reach this status. However, being able to harness all Earth’s energy would also mean that we could have control over all natural forces. Human beings could control volcanoes, the weather, and even earthquakes! (At least, that is the idea.) These kinds of feats are hard to believe, but compared to the advances that may still be to come, these are just basic and primitive levels of control (it’s absolutely nothing compared to the capabilities of societies with higher rankings).
So, controlling the weather is probable. If we don't destroy ourselves first.

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Wed 03/15/17 10:12 AM
I'm not interested in discussing religion.
To me, it is merely a method for people to manipulate the will of other people thru delusion and fear.
I do believe in God. God is the Universe. I don't expect anyone to understand and refuse to require it. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. I can live with that, can you?

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Wed 03/15/17 12:30 PM
Tom4UHere,

I want to read that book, I written it down so I let you know my thoughts, I'm go to my amazon prime to read it.......its not just about religion but it all ties in the these atrocities.

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Wed 03/15/17 02:30 PM
A website that you might enjoy:

Human Knowledge: Foundations and Limits
By Brian Holtz
http://humanknowledge.net/

This evolving hypertext is a systematic statement of what humanity does and does not know, and can and cannot know, about the answers to these and hundreds of other such questions. It summarizes what human civilization has learned, identifying for each subdivision of human knowledge its fundamental concepts, principles, mysteries, and misunderstandings. It asserts a worldview of scientific positivism and libertarian capitalism that it predicts will guide future human thought and action.



>Why is there something rather than nothing?
>Is the world an illusion?
>What exists beyond the human senses?
>What happens after death?
>Does divine or supernatural agency exist?
>Is the future already decided?
>What is the meaning of life?
>What is right and wrong?
>What beings should have what rights?
>What should one do?
>What istruth? consciousness? intelligence?
>What are the limits of intelligence? Of http://humanknowledge.net/Thoughts.html#Metalogic
>Could a machine think?
>Does free will exist?
>How did the universe begin? How will it end? What laws govern it? Why are those laws as they are?
>How old is the universe? How big is it? What happened before the Big Bang? >Does the universe have a center? An edge? What is the universe expanding into?
>What is life? How did life arise? What explains its complexity?
>How did mind and language arise? How does the brain work?
>Is there life and intelligence beyond earth?
>How do politics and economics work? What system is best?
>How and why do men and women behave differently?
>How and why have human civilizations developed differently?
>Will humanity suffer cultural decline? economic crash? tyranny? resource depletion? overpopulation? runaway pollution? pandemic? interplanetary impact? nuclear catastrophe? nanotech plague?
>Will humanity experience divine salvation? loss of faith? paranormal abilities? alien contact? time travel? warp travel? machine or human superintelligence? immortality?
>What will happen in the next: hundred years? thousand years? million years? billion years? trillion years?

Philosophy
Metaphysics
Ontology
Theology
Epistemology
Philosophy of Mind
Philosophy of Science
Axiology
Ethics
Political Philosophy
Virtue Philosophy
Aesthetics
Mathematics
Logic
Natural Science
Physics
Mechanics
Wave Physics
Thermodynamics
Electromagnetics
Quantum Physics
Astronomy
Cosmology
Galactic Astronomy
Stellar Astronomy
Planetary Astronomy
Chemistry
Geoscience
Biology
Technology
Social Science
Economics
Macroeconomics
Microeconomics
Political Science
Sociology
Psychology
Linguistics
History
Futurology
Impossible Advances
Improbable Advances
Academic Progress
Technological Progress
Industrial Progress
Sociopolitical Progress
Challenges
Possible Catastrophes
Timeline


EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Thu 03/16/17 08:06 AM
Tom4UHere,

Got it, the website, okay I like to see myself as open minded type of guy, so I give it a good look at it then on Monday I tell you what I observe>

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Thu 03/16/17 08:23 AM

Tom4UHere,

Got it, the website, okay I like to see myself as open minded type of guy, so I give it a good look at it then on Monday I tell you what I observe>


I was reading some of that site yesterday and haven't looked at it in a few years and noticed that much has changed since it was written. Views are not quite the same but the information is still pretty accurate.

You might find the political and social sciences interesting.

Political Science: the study of the government of persons.

Roles of Government.
Political Forces.
Political Processes.
Forms of Government.
Branches of Government.
Levels of Government.
Jurisprudence: the study of laws governing persons.
International Relations.
World Politics.

Governments vary by who wields power:

Anarchy
Democracy
Republic
Oligarchy
Autocracy
Monarchy

Governments vary by how much power is wielded:

liberal
authoritarian
totalitarian

Governments vary by how their power is justified:

democracy
theocracy
aristocracy
tyranny


Social Science: the study of the regular behavior of persons.

Economics: the study of production, exchange, and consumption of goods by persons.
Political Science: the study of the government of persons.
Sociology: the study of human group behavior.
Psychology: the study of mind.
Linguistics: the study of language.
History: the study of humanity's past.
Futurology: the study of humanity's future.

5.7.1. Social Science / Futurology / Impossible Advances
Divine Salvation. Humans will never experience either collective or individual salvation by any divine or supernatural agency.

Paranormality. The paranormal phenomena alleged in 2000 by many humans will never prove to be real and will over time be recognized as delusions, hysteria, myths, nonsense, and hoaxes.

Reanimation. There will never be any reanimation of humans whose brains have suffered any of the degradation that occurs at normal temperatures when metabolism ceases. Human personalities may someday be crudely simulated, but such simulations will never have significant fidelity and would not in any event have the identity of the simulated personality.

Explanation of Somethingness. Humans will never have a definitive answer to the question of why there is something rather than nothing. Humans may, however, eventually be able to show that no definitive explanation of existence is possible.

Superluminal Communication. There will never be a way to travel or communicate through space at speeds greater than that of light. Nor will there be a way to warp spacetime to circumvent this restriction.

Temporal Travel. There will never be a way to travel or communicate backwards in time. While time travel is not explicitly impossible under the known laws of physics, the proposed wormhole mechanism for it would require energies and technologies that are simply not achievable. Note also that a wormhole time machine would not allow travel back to before the wormhole was created.

Teleporter Travel. There will never be a way for humans to travel via transmission of information describing their physical constitution. Quantum considerations almost certainly preclude the extraction of a sufficiently detailed description, and such a discontinuous process would not preserve personal identity. The only possible way would be a gradual and continuous disassembly and reassembly with an ongoing causal link between the two separated halves.

Uploading. Like teleportation, transferal of a human mind from a brain to an artifact is almost certainly impossible and would nevertheless not preserve personal identity. Were either technology possible, then a minor improvement would be a non-destructive version that preserves the original body and brain, thus revealing the technology to be a duplicator rather than a teleporter or uploader. The possible technology closest to uploading would be a (relatively) gradual and continuous transformation of the functioning human brain into another substrate.

Energy and Momentum Non-Conservation. There will never be a way to increase the available energy or change the net momentum in a closed system.
5.7.2. Social Science / Futurology / Improbable Advances
Designer Contact. In his novel Contact, Carl Sagan suggested that the universe could have been designed and that its designer could have encoded a message in a transcendental number such as pi or e. Such a situation does not seem logically impossible, in that it would not be on its face a logical contradiction if for example the Bible turned out to be so encoded. The existence of any such message would in fact have to be considered a logical necessity. If so, it could not be considered an act of designer volition, unless one granted degrees of freedom in the design of mathematical logic itself. Such freedom seems incompatible with the very notion of logic: rules of inference that are binding in all possible worlds.

Super-Intelligence. Cognitive ability can increase quantitatively in efficiency, flexibility, speed, capacity, bandwidth, and network associativity, but not qualitatively in its kind of reasoning or knowing. There are no forms of reasoning or kinds of knowledge that are in principle inaccessible to regular intelligence.

Human Evolution. Humanity is very unlikely to undergo significant further natural evolution. Since the beginning of the Neolithic Age, the development of humanity has been influenced much more by changes in culture than changes in genes. This will continue indefinitely, even considering genetic engineering.

Singularity. The Singularity is what Vernor Vinge describes as a moment in the future when the ongoing exponential increases in technological capability culminate in a discontinuity beyond which predictions based on continuous extrapolations do not apply. One candidate for the Singularity is when humanity improves artificial intelligence to the point that it is better than humans at improving artificial intelligence. Another candidate is when the world's computers are networked into a single self-conscious mind. A third is when runaway productivity is achieved through artifactual life or nanotechnology, perhaps provided by extraterrestrial intelligence.

The Singularity will not happen. First, the limits to intelligence apply to artificial intelligence as much as to natural. Second, intelligence is likely not to vary qualitatively as a function of things like processing speed or memory that are increasing exponentially. Third, the effort to make minds faster or smarter will quite likely be subject to diminishing returns. Fourth, artificial minds will at first not be designed but rather grown and evolved, and will be subject to most of the same limits as minds that are naturally grown and evolved.

Antigravity. There will never be a way to repel matter by virtue of its mass, or even to just shield the attractive gravitational force of mass. Nor will there be an inertial drive -- a way to accelerate an object uniformly, as in a gravitational field.

Vacuum or Zero-Point Energy. It is unlikely that humans will ever be able to extract useful amounts of energy from the vacuum or zero point.


Again, some views have changed since it was written but it does give you fundamental reasoning.


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Thu 03/16/17 08:47 AM
Fiction and reality are often blurry in our technological world.
Conspiracies use fiction to justify reality.

Reality: Clones exist. They are grown and must mature and are not duplicates of the host. Cloning a human is morally dissuaded with stiff penalties.

Conspiracy: Exact clones are taking the place of leaders and celebrities for a hidden agenda.

Sources of the Belief Based on Reality: Video splicing, image manipulation, sound manipulation and subliminal forces can be employed to make someone appear to be a clone or something exist that does not exist.

Conspiracy Truth: The populace is being manipulated thru deceit by hidden powers with an unknown agenda to the public in media.

Science precludes the use of clones as duplicates but other technology can be employed for the desired effect.

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Sat 03/25/17 03:26 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 03/25/17 03:47 PM

The past 75 years (since WW2) the populace has been manipulated to a way of thinking thru media and education.

Hitler found Goebel's practices of propaganda (as conceived, practiced, and proven by Edward Bernays http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays ) very effective.... and the western powers put many of the Hitler minds (yes Nazi's!) on their payrolls rather than turn them over for prosecution for their crimes.

No need to clone a leader, start a war (unless another black budget is needed). Just educate a population thru well placed educators in a school system, add a TV or radio chalked full of influence and programming, throw in a one world organization (The UN), slowly remove states rights, personal rights (by govt lawyer interpretations educated in those fine halls) and national sovereignty and we're all clones to whatever doctrine or belief they wish to sell us..... like stopping laws that protect our borders, banksters and corporations controlling rather than serving the public, etc, etc, etc.

Enter the John Birch Society..... listening to the the Welsh predictions of the 60's and 70's can be educational..... just sayin, not promotin.... compare the warnings to the demoncrapic agenda

This is not conspiracy, it is documented fact (if you read or research at all)

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Sat 03/25/17 04:28 PM
Hey ss, how you been?

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Sat 03/25/17 06:43 PM

Good Evening My Mingle2 Family, Shots to everyone that follows my " Hot Tea " forums, well I can see my " Vocal Avengers" out there have a lot to share but wait let's keep that going okay, well its get into it, by now ya'll know I bring the pain with what I feel though needed to be discussed. Okay, I want to talk about Cloning & synthetic robotoids that seems to be in effect since 1945. In this world lies a secret way of life only a few would ever know, but we here conspiracy facts that people in politics, music, sports, modeling world, churches, software developers, & now even everyday humans been cloned to fool the world. You many ask, well what happens to the original person? Well, its been told the real person is either killed off or being held in a underground location, or even living off the grid in other countries. Why they started cloning was because it goes back to MK Ultra mind control monarch programming. How many times you seen the infamous Al Roker clone breaks down live on the morning show? What about the Britney Spears Glitches live with Dianne Sawyer? America, its not a game, like I always tell you research this with your modern search engines. Even our political leaders are synthetics. Synthetics doesn't have a soul so it needs something or somebody to host it. Do you believe in Cloning & synthetics in politics & entertainment? Is Trump a synthetic? Let's talk about this, how do you feel?


you get good weed... don't you

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Sat 03/25/17 08:56 PM

Hey ss, how you been?


Hey Moe. U know me. Been trying my bit to save the world from another coast for a while.

Been busy with veterans and homeless putting my money where my mouth is. May never be elected to anything important at my age but my advocacy is making changes at least for some.... for the better I hope.

It has kept me busy for sure. Health is taking a hit these days but I feel better about it now. Have scratched a few things from my bucket list.

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Sun 03/26/17 06:43 AM


Hey ss, how you been?


Hey Moe. U know me. Been trying my bit to save the world from another coast for a while.

Been busy with veterans and homeless putting my money where my mouth is. May never be elected to anything important at my age but my advocacy is making changes at least for some.... for the better I hope.

It has kept me busy for sure. Health is taking a hit these days but I feel better about it now. Have scratched a few things from my bucket list.


good for you, always fun to do something you wanna do...

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Sun 03/26/17 09:59 AM


Hey ss, how you been?


Hey Moe. U know me. Been trying my bit to save the world from another coast for a while.

Been busy with veterans and homeless putting my money where my mouth is. May never be elected to anything important at my age but my advocacy is making changes at least for some.... for the better I hope.

It has kept me busy for sure. Health is taking a hit these days but I feel better about it now. Have scratched a few things from my bucket list.


We all missed you SS. Good to have you back.drinker

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Mon 03/27/17 07:50 PM

I do not believe people can be cloned. I don't believe Trump is a synthetic.

I feel people are too complex to convincingly duplicate.



i dont know about that they are cloning animals

and there are defiantly some well placed clowns out there ohwell

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