Topic: Will another Marital change in culture become common?
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Thu 05/04/17 07:10 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 05/04/17 07:12 AM
Legendary actor Kirk Douglas has been candid about his extramarital affairs in the past, and his wife of more than 60 years says she accepted his infidelity - and willfully turned a blind eye to his lovers.

“Kirk never tried to hide his dalliances from me,” Anne Douglas, 98, writes in Kirk and Anne: Letters of Love, Laughter and a Lifetime in Hollywood, a new book out Tuesday that reveals intimate letters between the longtime couple. “As a European, I understood it was unrealistic to expect total fidelity in a marriage.”


from: https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/kirk-anne-douglas-apos-unconventional-174832577.html


What do you think? Will expectations of fidelity go out the window with expectations of gender/sexual roles? Have the most recent generations or will the present and future generations have a culture where sex is unavoidable and necessary and fidelity(like marriage) obsolete?

It would be yet another cultural change that could justify having 'civil unions' instead.

Join your stuff and your responsibilities and solidify your legal access to each others information and healthcare, as long as you are of legal age to consent.

soufiehere's photo
Thu 05/04/17 09:19 AM
I do not think so.
Some will always demand total fealty and, children aside,
the whole point of the marriage union is to bind together.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 05/04/17 12:17 PM
“As a European, I understood it was unrealistic to expect total fidelity in a marriage.”


In other words, Anne Douglas doesn't share the marital values of the Christian faith.

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Thu 05/04/17 05:28 PM
Will expectations of fidelity go out the window with expectations of gender/sexual roles?

Loss of expectations of fidelity is not the same as increase in expectations of infidelity.

Have the most recent generations or will the present and future generations have a culture where sex is unavoidable and necessary and fidelity(like marriage) obsolete?

Hopefully people will realize marriage is for the sake of children rather than satisfaction of ego and identity.

I think "fidelity(like marriage)" will be obsolete as long as people keep spouting/believing things like "you're young, you have your whole life in front of you, focus on school, and a career, go out, have fun, enjoy life, you shouldn't be thinking about a serious relationship right now, you have plenty of time for that later."

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Fri 05/05/17 09:02 AM
msharmoney if that is what she said then ...
they may had a open marriage...
but maybe she chose not to do as him ...
why place judgment on those... not saying u ... I am sure their are many who have this kind of marriage ... and has been said... what ever works ... now deceiving your mate is another topic ...

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Fri 05/05/17 09:09 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Fri 05/05/17 09:11 AM

Will expectations of fidelity go out the window with expectations of gender/sexual roles?

Loss of expectations of fidelity is not the same as increase in expectations of infidelity.

Have the most recent generations or will the present and future generations have a culture where sex is unavoidable and necessary and fidelity(like marriage) obsolete?

Hopefully people will realize marriage is for the sake of children rather than satisfaction of ego and identity.

I think "fidelity(like marriage)" will be obsolete as long as people keep spouting/believing things like "you're young, you have your whole life in front of you, focus on school, and a career, go out, have fun, enjoy life, you shouldn't be thinking about a serious relationship right now, you have plenty of time for that later."



I kinda agree with you ... that's what I always said to my daughter... but that is not what happened ... they fell in love and had a child ... at first my thinking was yea to young ... more the more I thought about it ... I thought is was great ... becouse I had a very hard time having a child ... even thought I could not have one for a while to many female problems ... so in my thinking I am very happy to have a grandchild and my daughter did not have to go through what I did in my young yrs an adult hood ... being what I have an had can be hereditary ... don't wish that kind of pain on her ...

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Fri 05/05/17 09:22 AM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 05/05/17 09:26 AM

“As a European, I understood it was unrealistic to expect total fidelity in a marriage.”


In other words, Anne Douglas doesn't share the marital values of the Christian faith.

European is a vague description, is she Italian?
German, just googled it lol
Nothing to do with being 'European ' people of those circles will turn a blind eye to most things I think, same as many very wealthy people

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Fri 05/05/17 09:27 AM


“As a European, I understood it was unrealistic to expect total fidelity in a marriage.”


In other words, Anne Douglas doesn't share the marital values of the Christian faith.

European is a vague description, is she Italian?


When she uses the term European, it's meant as "you're pi**ing all over me"

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Fri 05/05/17 09:30 AM



“As a European, I understood it was unrealistic to expect total fidelity in a marriage.”


In other words, Anne Douglas doesn't share the marital values of the Christian faith.

European is a vague description, is she Italian?


When she uses the term European, it's meant as "you're pi**ing all over me"

Yep, that's about it!
Hi mate :thumbsup:

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Fri 05/05/17 09:33 AM




“As a European, I understood it was unrealistic to expect total fidelity in a marriage.”


In other words, Anne Douglas doesn't share the marital values of the Christian faith.

European is a vague description, is she Italian?


When she uses the term European, it's meant as "you're pi**ing all over me"

Yep, that's about it!
Hi mate :thumbsup:


Happy Friday mate drinks

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Fri 05/05/17 09:38 AM
Cheers, you to drinks
I also think with all these reality programmes and actors being in the public eye some people think this is how life is lead where as in reality it's far from it, as a would expect, from many of you is if he or she did to you they'd of been down the road straight away!