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https://www.yahoo.com/news/teen-found-guilty-texting-suicide-165306361.html
A Massachusetts judge found Michelle Carter guilty of involuntary manslaughter for sending text messages urging her boyfriend, Conrad Roy, to commit suicide back in 2014. In short , a teen girl is convicted of involuntary manslaughter for urging her teen boyfriend, over text messaging, to commit suicide. I am torn on the issue because, as many who have viewed my comments through the years know, there is a certain immaturity in development which causes me to not hold young people to the exact standards of grown people and which causes me to err on the side of allowing them a chance to grow and improve in their lives as opposed to locking them away for decades. I am also not a proponent of locking people up for what they "don't do', when they have no contractual obligation involved,,, she could face up to twenty years, do you think that would be an appropriate or productive outcome? |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Sat 06/17/17 10:57 AM
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Yes....not protected under the 1st amendment. If someone is unstable, bombarding that person to kill themselves is a crime. She is a sick person
It's loading a gun and convincing them to pull the trigger People should be held accountable |
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Edited by
dreamerana
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Sat 06/17/17 11:06 AM
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Whether undersge or over 18 lack of maturity doesn't mean a person should be excused for choices they make.
She can face up to 20 years. That means she might serve half if she gets halftime for good behavior. At that time she still has an opportunity to live. An opportunity that boy no longer has |
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Whether undersge or over 18 lack of maturity doesn't mean a person should be excused for choices they make. She can face up to 20 years. That means she might serve half if she gets halftime for good behavior. At that time she still has an opportunity to live. An opportunity that boy no longer has I agree. I would never support 'excusing' choices, I am only proposing that the reaction to someones choice should take into consideration their emotional/intellectual/physical maturity first. |
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I think its nuts. She is indeed guilty of bein an *******. Not of manslaughter. not in my opinion. The boy was unfortunately sick already and looking to kill himself. Its too bad he didnt reach out to a hotline when he was struggling and its too bad she didnt refer him to one, or call his parents instead of engaging in these stupid texts. Its all upsetting on both parties. Reminds me of that Judas Priest trial years ago. I tend to agree with you that both seem to show trends of being sick and I do not believe the remedy for sickness is jail. |
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Whether undersge or over 18 lack of maturity doesn't mean a person should be excused for choices they make. She can face up to 20 years. That means she might serve half if she gets halftime for good behavior. At that time she still has an opportunity to live. An opportunity that boy no longer has I agree. I would never support 'excusing' choices, I am only proposing that the reaction to someones choice should take into consideration their emotional/intellectual/physical maturity first. I agree, mental development doesn't happen overnight, especially if drugs or abuse is a factor. I think it varies for each individual. Some just take longer and some sooner. Give her 5 years then re-evaluate her then. |
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I would agree with the 5, but in a mental institution for evaluation and help instead of a jail with 'hard' criminal types.
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I think its nuts. She is indeed guilty of bein an *******. Not of manslaughter. not in my opinion. The boy was unfortunately sick already and looking to kill himself. Its too bad he didnt reach out to a hotline when he was struggling and its too bad she didnt refer him to one, or call his parents instead of engaging in these stupid texts. Its all upsetting on both parties. Reminds me of that Judas Priest trial years ago. I tend to agree with you that both seem to show trends of being sick and I do not believe the remedy for sickness is jail. In this particular case, the convicted person isn't sick. Instead, she is evil. |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Sat 06/17/17 11:39 AM
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I think its nuts. She is indeed guilty of bein an *******. Not of manslaughter. not in my opinion. The boy was unfortunately sick already and looking to kill himself. Its too bad he didnt reach out to a hotline when he was struggling and its too bad she didnt refer him to one, or call his parents instead of engaging in these stupid texts. Its all upsetting on both parties. Reminds me of that Judas Priest trial years ago. I tend to agree with you that both seem to show trends of being sick and I do not believe the remedy for sickness is jail. In this particular case, the convicted person isn't sick. Instead, she is evil. This! There are actions to consequences. |
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Need I guess who made her do it?
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I think its nuts. She is indeed guilty of bein an *******. Not of manslaughter. not in my opinion. The boy was unfortunately sick already and looking to kill himself. Its too bad he didnt reach out to a hotline when he was struggling and its too bad she didnt refer him to one, or call his parents instead of engaging in these stupid texts. Its all upsetting on both parties. Reminds me of that Judas Priest trial years ago. I tend to agree with you that both seem to show trends of being sick and I do not believe the remedy for sickness is jail. In this particular case, the convicted person isn't sick. Instead, she is evil. I disagree. I believe she is a sick teen, and will only become sicker in a 'jail' environment. |
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In this particular case, the convicted person isn't sick. Instead, she is evil. I disagree. I believe she is a sick teen, and will only become sicker in a 'jail' environment. Uh, do you deny the existence of evil? Do you deny that crimes can be the result of evil lurking in the hearts of people? |
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In this particular case, the convicted person isn't sick. Instead, she is evil. I disagree. I believe she is a sick teen, and will only become sicker in a 'jail' environment. Uh, do you deny the existence of evil? Do you deny that crimes can be the result of evil lurking in the hearts of people? Yes evil is moral wrong , all kids do evil by the strict definition but they are not held to the same accountability for such 'evilness' as grown ups,, generally |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Sat 06/17/17 11:52 AM
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Whatever happens, I just hope this sicko doesn't target others
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/teen-found-guilty-texting-suicide-165306361.html A Massachusetts judge found Michelle Carter guilty of involuntary manslaughter for sending text messages urging her boyfriend, Conrad Roy, to commit suicide back in 2014. In short , a teen girl is convicted of involuntary manslaughter for urging her teen boyfriend, over text messaging, to commit suicide. I am torn on the issue because, as many who have viewed my comments through the years know, there is a certain immaturity in development which causes me to not hold young people to the exact standards of grown people and which causes me to err on the side of allowing them a chance to grow and improve in their lives as opposed to locking them away for decades. I am also not a proponent of locking people up for what they "don't do', when they have no contractual obligation involved,,, she could face up to twenty years, do you think that would be an appropriate or productive outcome? I'm not familiar with your law's but do you have a similar or same as us called 'accessory to murder '? This would be a lesser charge but still serious. |
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Or, "assisted suicide"?
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Or, "assisted suicide"? Yes, we have that to especially with old or terminally ill people |
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Or, "assisted suicide"? assisted suicide is generally an action that leads directly to death with the consent of the victim/deceased her texts were did not lead directly to his death, his own actions were still his own choice,,, |
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Or, "assisted suicide"? assisted suicide is generally an action that leads directly to death with the consent of the victim/deceased her texts were did not lead directly to his death, his own actions were still his own choice,,, Then it wouldn't be 'accessory to murder 'that implies that you have helped someone murder someone else. |
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This makes me think about Terri Schiavo.
A Massachusetts judge found Michelle Carter guilty of involuntary manslaughter for sending text messages urging her boyfriend, Conrad Roy, to commit suicide back in 2014. Terri was "put to death" at the bequest of her husband. The court battle and public opinion decided her fate against her parents decision. Terri could not defend herself. This judgement against Michelle indicates that all the people that assisted in Terri's death should be held accountable for manslaughter. They "CAUSED" Terri's death by their actions. At the time of the drama of Terri's fate I held the position that this can't be good for our future as a nation of laws. Michelle should fight this ruling based on the Shiavo case. I'm just sayin... |
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