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Topic: Are You Truly Alone?
Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 12:31 PM
Think about the people in your life. Are you truly alone?

Now, Think about the people that really have nobody. Most of those are older and live alone. Housebound for any number of reasons.

I am alone.
There is no place on this planet where I belong.
There is nobody I can call if I need to talk.
My phone never rings for me.
I have nobody to call.
My friends died or abandoned me.
My family has died or abandoned me.
I exist in your world without any connection.

Sadly, there are more and more people facing this as the baby boomers age up into oblivion.

I see people screaming they are lonely yet they are surrounded by people that truly care about them. Try going it alone, truly alone. It is a sobering realization.

You know people you can visit if you need companionship. Are you really alone or do you just feel alone?

Everyone I see is a stranger. Strangers are not warm and welcoming anymore. Many are on their phones. Too busy to make new friends. Who needs it?

We are few right now but as time progresses we will gain in numbers. You may not be here yet but as things are going, time is your enemy.

I would love children that really came to see me to SEE ME. Not an obligation to satisfy their moral responsibilities. A friend that visits because they are interested in what I offer as a human being.

Next time you are feeling loney and so sorry for yourself just remember that there are many people out there in the void that are truly alone with absolutely nobody in their lives.

no photo
Mon 07/03/17 12:36 PM

Think about the people in your life. Are you truly alone?

Now, Think about the people that really have nobody. Most of those are older and live alone. Housebound for any number of reasons.

I am alone.
There is no place on this planet where I belong.
There is nobody I can call if I need to talk.
My phone never rings for me.
I have nobody to call.
My friends died or abandoned me.
My family has died or abandoned me.
I exist in your world without any connection.

Sadly, there are more and more people facing this as the baby boomers age up into oblivion.

I see people screaming they are lonely yet they are surrounded by people that truly care about them. Try going it alone, truly alone. It is a sobering realization.

You know people you can visit if you need companionship. Are you really alone or do you just feel alone?

Everyone I see is a stranger. Strangers are not warm and welcoming anymore. Many are on their phones. Too busy to make new friends. Who needs it?

We are few right now but as time progresses we will gain in numbers. You may not be here yet but as things are going, time is your enemy.

I would love children that really came to see me to SEE ME. Not an obligation to satisfy their moral responsibilities. A friend that visits because they are interested in what I offer as a human being.

Next time you are feeling loney and so sorry for yourself just remember that there are many people out there in the void that are truly alone with absolutely nobody in their lives.

:thumbsup:
The Internet helps for some, if they have access to it

peggy122's photo
Mon 07/03/17 12:46 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Mon 07/03/17 12:48 PM
I get where you are coming from Tom, and Im sorry you are going through such a trying timeflowerforyou

Do you think that we can create our own community of friends and family Tom?

As corny as it sounds , I actually do think of the community on mingle as a type of family , and all of the people in my dance club as well, even though Im not close to most of the members in both groups.

Whether you become a member of a book club or water aerobics group, there is a feeling of "connectedness" to the people who like some of the things I like and want some of the things that I want.

Do you agree?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 12:50 PM
It helps me but it isn't the same as actual people in ones life.

Some will say "Its simple, just go out and make friends"

My personal experience shows me that most people want something.
I'll be your friend if...

What happens when going outside is a painful sickening feeling?
Will they come to you? What must you offer to be graced with their presence?
What must you do that you don't really want to do just to have someone come visit you?

Lets not forget about the human touch.
People need to be touched.
Its been almost a half a year since I have felt a human touch.
Too many people out there have gone much, much longer.

I considered volunteering for anything.
Any interaction would be better than complete isolation.
Problem is, I don't know, day to day, if I can even go outside.
Volunteering requires a commitment that I can't make.
Sometimes it is everything I can do just to sit in front of my computer.

I know I am not alone in this. Too many people are lost in time.
I just want to say to you, I know how it feels to be truly alone in life.
We can only hope that tomorrow brings someone into our lives to make it better.
Until that happens, be content with what you have and what might one day be.


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Mon 07/03/17 01:02 PM
Now isn't that odd Tom, I understand exactly where you are coming from, yet I do find that as time has gone by, I actually find it Quite liberating that I am alone, sure-I know lot's of people, some closer than others, but I take the attitude that they have their own lives to lead, and I am very contented to plod along as an aged Baby Boomer,try not to let it get you down Tom, you have the freedom to do exactly what you want, when you want, and at your own pace, and as mikey says the internet does help, Tom if you were closer, I would give you a call to see if you fancied going out for a pint,and you know what Tom-you would have the freedom to say, not tonight mate.drinker

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:05 PM

I get where you are coming from Tom, and Im sorry you are going through such a trying timeflowerforyou

Do you think that we can create our own community of friends and family Tom?

As corny as it sounds , I actually do think of the community on mingle as a type of family , and all of the people in my dance club as well, even though Im not close to most of the members in both groups.

Whether you become a member of a book club or water aerobics group, there is a feeling of "connectedness" to the people who like some of the things I like and want some of the things that I want.

Do you agree?


I agree Peggy.
The problem is not will.
We are willing but have trouble obtaining that actual connection.
Perhaps it is the wisdom of our past.
Perhaps it is fear of the future?

In my case, and I can only speak from my own perspective.
I see people in general as cold and unwilling.
If I don't initialize contact they are happy just going about their own business. So I let them.

When I was younger, people would come and say hi, I want to know you.
That doesn't happen anymore. Most would rather be on their damn phones.
I am a very interesting person. I am warm and friendly. I broadcast my personality for anyone to see yet, nobody looks up to notice.

Here, let me interrupt you because I would like to have you in my life. That is just something I can't do? Even if I did, what would I have to offer them to catch their attention away from what they already have?
I'm sure if I threw money at them I would get their attention.

No, I want someone that wants me. I NEED someone to come up to me and say "Hi, I find you interesting and I would like to get to know you better". Someone that is with me because they truly want to be not out of some perverted obligation or reward.

I am a true friend. I am not needy. I don't have some twisted moral need to fulfill. If I am your friend I am because I WANT TO BE. Problem is there is nobody that can say that about me.

I'm not really depressed about it but it is a sobering reality that I face everyday.

Basha's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:08 PM

Think about the people in your life. Are you truly alone?

Now, Think about the people that really have nobody. Most of those are older and live alone. Housebound for any number of reasons.

I am alone.
There is no place on this planet where I belong.
There is nobody I can call if I need to talk.
My phone never rings for me.
I have nobody to call.
My friends died or abandoned me.
My family has died or abandoned me.
I exist in your world without any connection.

Sadly, there are more and more people facing this as the baby boomers age up into oblivion.

I see people screaming they are lonely yet they are surrounded by people that truly care about them. Try going it alone, truly alone. It is a sobering realization.

You know people you can visit if you need companionship. Are you really alone or do you just feel alone?

Everyone I see is a stranger. Strangers are not warm and welcoming anymore. Many are on their phones. Too busy to make new friends. Who needs it?

We are few right now but as time progresses we will gain in numbers. You may not be here yet but as things are going, time is your enemy.

I would love children that really came to see me to SEE ME. Not an obligation to satisfy their moral responsibilities. A friend that visits because they are interested in what I offer as a human being.

Next time you are feeling loney and so sorry for yourself just remember that there are many people out there in the void that are truly alone with absolutely nobody in their lives.


Thanks Tom...needed this~ sry for ignoring most of your msgs(lol) coz they're pretty big...and I'm not a good reader unless it's fantasy novels.... reading this was worth it~

TMommy's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:12 PM
you do realize or perhaps you don't that you are in a self fullfilling prophecy..that your mindset has already predetermined your outcome

if you have already decided that people are no good, not worth getting to know, too busy or just want something out of you

then you will find evidence to back up this belief


if you on the other hand
you believe that there are still good people out there
get involved in something that interests you and allow yourself to be open to possibiities
you might find evidence that backs up this belief

no photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:16 PM

It helps me but it isn't the same as actual people in ones life.

Some will say "Its simple, just go out and make friends"

My personal experience shows me that most people want something.
I'll be your friend if...

What happens when going outside is a painful sickening feeling?
Will they come to you? What must you offer to be graced with their presence?
What must you do that you don't really want to do just to have someone come visit you?

Lets not forget about the human touch.
People need to be touched.
Its been almost a half a year since I have felt a human touch.
Too many people out there have gone much, much longer.

I considered volunteering for anything.
Any interaction would be better than complete isolation.
Problem is, I don't know, day to day, if I can even go outside.
Volunteering requires a commitment that I can't make.
Sometimes it is everything I can do just to sit in front of my computer.

I know I am not alone in this. Too many people are lost in time.
I just want to say to you, I know how it feels to be truly alone in life.
We can only hope that tomorrow brings someone into our lives to make it better.
Until that happens, be content with what you have and what might one day be.



It's like Peggy and I were saying in another thread.
Many people have 'online 'friends, ie, they may be disappointed by not having enough 'friends 'on Facebook for example.
Online friends could never replace face to face friends but it's increasingly going that way.
We were having a bit of Back and forth on the trump thread, you have strong opinions as you are on the receiving end. I just see it from the outside and how it is in the UK. but it's interesting.
Maybe Peggy should organise a boot camp for us crinkly people on M2! laugh

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:17 PM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Mon 07/03/17 02:04 PM

Now isn't that odd Tom, I understand exactly where you are coming from, yet I do find that as time has gone by, I actually find it Quite liberating that I am alone, sure-I know lot's of people, some closer than others, but I take the attitude that they have their own lives to lead, and I am very contented to plod along as an aged Baby Boomer,try not to let it get you down Tom, you have the freedom to do exactly what you want, when you want, and at your own pace, and as mikey says the internet does help, Tom if you were closer, I would give you a call to see if you fancied going out for a pint,and you know what Tom-you would have the freedom to say, not tonight mate.drinker


See, I'm not really down and I do feel the same as you.
My life alone is very seldom complicated or out of control.
Of the few people I have tried to have as friends it always ends up the same way. They expect me to 'perform' as they see fit. Never allowing me to be me.
I would have a pint and maybe some darts, if I was well enough to not hamper our fun.

I use my time to find self-enlightenment. I am never really bored. I often miss having someone to share some moments with but it passes and I let it.
I do know that I have a tremendous amount of life to offer someone that truly wants to share it. I am not so set in my ways that I can't change but at this point in time, I am content so why make changes?

Right now the beaches are packed with people for the 4th. I drove the beach road on my way home from the store. I realized that in all those people's minds, I do not exist.
I would love to spend the 4th on the beaches with someone. I know I won't.
I'm okay with that. Last year I saw 50 miles of beaches packed with people lighting off fireworks, having fun and living it up. I tried to join in. Nobody at any of the beaches I went to even noticed me. So be it.
This year, I will ride my bike down to the local beach, watch the fireworks and head home. Somewhere inside me I am hoping someone says "hey, I want to know you" but I am not counting on it. The show will be enough.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:29 PM

you do realize or perhaps you don't that you are in a self fullfilling prophecy..that your mindset has already predetermined your outcome

if you have already decided that people are no good, not worth getting to know, too busy or just want something out of you

then you will find evidence to back up this belief


if you on the other hand
you believe that there are still good people out there
get involved in something that interests you and allow yourself to be open to possibiities
you might find evidence that backs up this belief

I don't think that people are no good? I just believe that I am not important. People are living in their own lives, do I insert myself like a shoehorn? I won't do that.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way tho. When I was laying in the hospital clinging to my life I realized that I will die in pain and alone.
Then slowly I watched everyone in my life disappear. Replaced by nobody.

I have dreams. I have things I really would love to do with someone. I won't lead with that tho. I want someone that is interested in getting to know me without promises. Someone that just likes being around me. Animals love me. People just seem to not have time for me.

When people talk with me at the stores or library they have interest. I respect them. I expect nothing from them. They sense my calm demeanor. It just seems I can't get what I give? I don't even want them to be first, just return the same.
Too much stress
Too much mistrust
Too much fear of honesty
Too many games.


Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:31 PM
Thanks Tom...needed this~ sry for ignoring most of your msgs(lol) coz they're pretty big...and I'm not a good reader unless it's fantasy novels.... reading this was worth it~

Hi Nick,
A lot of people feel it but can't explain it.
Just remember that being alone doesn't mean you are lonely.
May your angel find you.

TMommy's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:37 PM
Edited by TMommy on Mon 07/03/17 01:39 PM
"Hi, I find you interesting and I would like to get to know you better".

^^^^ see this? what atmosphere could you put yourself in that would increase your chances of this happening?

what hobbies, interests do you have that others may also have?

do your homework...find something in your community and go do it



because if you continue to do what you have been doing
then do not expect different results


if you come up with a million and one excuses as to why you cannot do this
then I would argue that you are content in your current circumstances
and have no real goal to change

no photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:40 PM


you do realize or perhaps you don't that you are in a self fullfilling prophecy..that your mindset has already predetermined your outcome

if you have already decided that people are no good, not worth getting to know, too busy or just want something out of you

then you will find evidence to back up this belief


if you on the other hand
you believe that there are still good people out there
get involved in something that interests you and allow yourself to be open to possibiities
you might find evidence that backs up this belief

I don't think that people are no good? I just believe that I am not important. People are living in their own lives, do I insert myself like a shoehorn? I won't do that.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way tho. When I was laying in the hospital clinging to my life I realized that I will die in pain and alone.
Then slowly I watched everyone in my life disappear. Replaced by nobody.

I have dreams. I have things I really would love to do with someone. I won't lead with that tho. I want someone that is interested in getting to know me without promises. Someone that just likes being around me. Animals love me. People just seem to not have time for me.

When people talk with me at the stores or library they have interest. I respect them. I expect nothing from them. They sense my calm demeanor. It just seems I can't get what I give? I don't even want them to be first, just return the same.
Too much stress
Too much mistrust
Too much fear of honesty
Too many games.



I have lost a few very close friends due to my career, and I do get the feeling that you describe (in pain, alone,friends not being replaced )
Society has made the old time ways of visiting people and families nearly obsolete, people have made their selves busy to the clock.
I learnt long ago to make time.
My father went into hospital for a minor operation some 30 years ago.
I could have gone seen him the night of the op but he suggested I go the next day as I was 'busy '
The next day never came.
So always make time for someone and don't make it a choir! !

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:44 PM


It helps me but it isn't the same as actual people in ones life.

Some will say "Its simple, just go out and make friends"

My personal experience shows me that most people want something.
I'll be your friend if...

What happens when going outside is a painful sickening feeling?
Will they come to you? What must you offer to be graced with their presence?
What must you do that you don't really want to do just to have someone come visit you?

Lets not forget about the human touch.
People need to be touched.
Its been almost a half a year since I have felt a human touch.
Too many people out there have gone much, much longer.

I considered volunteering for anything.
Any interaction would be better than complete isolation.
Problem is, I don't know, day to day, if I can even go outside.
Volunteering requires a commitment that I can't make.
Sometimes it is everything I can do just to sit in front of my computer.

I know I am not alone in this. Too many people are lost in time.
I just want to say to you, I know how it feels to be truly alone in life.
We can only hope that tomorrow brings someone into our lives to make it better.
Until that happens, be content with what you have and what might one day be.



It's like Peggy and I were saying in another thread.
Many people have 'online 'friends, ie, they may be disappointed by not having enough 'friends 'on Facebook for example.
Online friends could never replace face to face friends but it's increasingly going that way.
We were having a bit of Back and forth on the trump thread, you have strong opinions as you are on the receiving end. I just see it from the outside and how it is in the UK. but it's interesting.
Maybe Peggy should organise a boot camp for us crinkly people on M2! laugh


My physical condition has created a massive amount of 'online' friends in many different online forums and social groups. I even have video chat groups that watch movies, listen to music and read books with me live. While it does help, its just not the same.

I have common acquaintances in real life too. I can have conversations on the porch with my neighbors, talk with people I have met at the library or meet people at the beach or at parks. That's not the same either.

I know many of the employees at the stores I go to. I could drive 12 hours and see my children and grandchildren at anytime. I have the truck and the money to do it. I have plenty of time. BUT, its not the same.
In the 5 years I have lived down here, I have been visited once by my children and their families and not as a determined will to see me but as a side-stop while they were going someplace else. That told me a lot. No phone calls or emails either. I removed EVERYONE from my facebook and nobody noticed. LOL, I see it for what it is.

With all the rejection and abandonment I have faced I am still not cold or rude. I hold no resentment except to my fate which was my fault anyway. I thought that if I worked hard and pushed myself it would pay off in the end. What a lie. I can only blame myself for my own delusions.

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Mon 07/03/17 01:46 PM
Tom, the show is enough, the ironic thing in all this,that on that 50 miles of beach, there will be people of all ages,race and religion, in almost the same mindset as yourself, you may never meet, but then again you may, you probably pass them every day,and if that's the case,they are likewise passing you, it doesn't mean anything, of course the chance meeting with someone who understands you, is always 50/50,but the same will apply to them,Tom if you spun a coin 10 times,and every time it landed it was Heads up, on the eleventh spin it is still going to be 50/50.

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Mon 07/03/17 01:47 PM



It helps me but it isn't the same as actual people in ones life.

Some will say "Its simple, just go out and make friends"

My personal experience shows me that most people want something.
I'll be your friend if...

What happens when going outside is a painful sickening feeling?
Will they come to you? What must you offer to be graced with their presence?
What must you do that you don't really want to do just to have someone come visit you?

Lets not forget about the human touch.
People need to be touched.
Its been almost a half a year since I have felt a human touch.
Too many people out there have gone much, much longer.

I considered volunteering for anything.
Any interaction would be better than complete isolation.
Problem is, I don't know, day to day, if I can even go outside.
Volunteering requires a commitment that I can't make.
Sometimes it is everything I can do just to sit in front of my computer.

I know I am not alone in this. Too many people are lost in time.
I just want to say to you, I know how it feels to be truly alone in life.
We can only hope that tomorrow brings someone into our lives to make it better.
Until that happens, be content with what you have and what might one day be.



It's like Peggy and I were saying in another thread.
Many people have 'online 'friends, ie, they may be disappointed by not having enough 'friends 'on Facebook for example.
Online friends could never replace face to face friends but it's increasingly going that way.
We were having a bit of Back and forth on the trump thread, you have strong opinions as you are on the receiving end. I just see it from the outside and how it is in the UK. but it's interesting.
Maybe Peggy should organise a boot camp for us crinkly people on M2! laugh


My physical condition has created a massive amount of 'online' friends in many different online forums and social groups. I even have video chat groups that watch movies, listen to music and read books with me live. While it does help, its just not the same.

I have common acquaintances in real life too. I can have conversations on the porch with my neighbors, talk with people I have met at the library or meet people at the beach or at parks. That's not the same either.

I know many of the employees at the stores I go to. I could drive 12 hours and see my children and grandchildren at anytime. I have the truck and the money to do it. I have plenty of time. BUT, its not the same.
In the 5 years I have lived down here, I have been visited once by my children and their families and not as a determined will to see me but as a side-stop while they were going someplace else. That told me a lot. No phone calls or emails either. I removed EVERYONE from my facebook and nobody noticed. LOL, I see it for what it is.

With all the rejection and abandonment I have faced I am still not cold or rude. I hold no resentment except to my fate which was my fault anyway. I thought that if I worked hard and pushed myself it would pay off in the end. What a lie. I can only blame myself for my own delusions.

I used to be like that with some family and some friends, I took notice of this old guy I knew. His advice was
F**K EM!

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:48 PM

"Hi, I find you interesting and I would like to get to know you better".

^^^^ see this? what atmosphere could you put yourself in that would increase your chances of this happening?

what hobbies, interests do you have that others may also have?

do your homework...find something in your community and go do it



because if you continue to do what you have been doing
then do not expect different results


if you come up with a million and one excuses as to why you cannot do this
then I would argue that you are content in your current circumstances
and have no real goal to change

Thanx, yes, I have seen this. I am out of excuses. I am out of push. I am ready to catch now.
I am content. I would like to have something more but I am not going to play that game anymore. Perhaps if I wake up tomorrow I may feel differently. IF I wake up. I can no longer expect a tomorrow.
Its just the reality I live with daily.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:54 PM

Tom, the show is enough, the ironic thing in all this,that on that 50 miles of beach, there will be people of all ages,race and religion, in almost the same mindset as yourself, you may never meet, but then again you may, you probably pass them every day,and if that's the case,they are likewise passing you, it doesn't mean anything, of course the chance meeting with someone who understands you, is always 50/50,but the same will apply to them,Tom if you spun a coin 10 times,and every time it landed it was Heads up, on the eleventh spin it is still going to be 50/50.

Love your wisdom!
I am well aware of the chaotic nature of the Universe.
Every moment I am alive is a 50/50 chance in my favor.
Perhaps that one pass where our eyes lock and the chance lifts away.
It is my hope for tomorrow.
Perhaps it will be how she smiles at me?
Maybe she will bump me?
Ask me some random question and really want to hear my answer?
Maybe she was watching me to see if I was preoccupied?
She may have designs on me right now?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/03/17 01:57 PM




It helps me but it isn't the same as actual people in ones life.

Some will say "Its simple, just go out and make friends"

My personal experience shows me that most people want something.
I'll be your friend if...

What happens when going outside is a painful sickening feeling?
Will they come to you? What must you offer to be graced with their presence?
What must you do that you don't really want to do just to have someone come visit you?

Lets not forget about the human touch.
People need to be touched.
Its been almost a half a year since I have felt a human touch.
Too many people out there have gone much, much longer.

I considered volunteering for anything.
Any interaction would be better than complete isolation.
Problem is, I don't know, day to day, if I can even go outside.
Volunteering requires a commitment that I can't make.
Sometimes it is everything I can do just to sit in front of my computer.

I know I am not alone in this. Too many people are lost in time.
I just want to say to you, I know how it feels to be truly alone in life.
We can only hope that tomorrow brings someone into our lives to make it better.
Until that happens, be content with what you have and what might one day be.



It's like Peggy and I were saying in another thread.
Many people have 'online 'friends, ie, they may be disappointed by not having enough 'friends 'on Facebook for example.
Online friends could never replace face to face friends but it's increasingly going that way.
We were having a bit of Back and forth on the trump thread, you have strong opinions as you are on the receiving end. I just see it from the outside and how it is in the UK. but it's interesting.
Maybe Peggy should organise a boot camp for us crinkly people on M2! laugh


My physical condition has created a massive amount of 'online' friends in many different online forums and social groups. I even have video chat groups that watch movies, listen to music and read books with me live. While it does help, its just not the same.

I have common acquaintances in real life too. I can have conversations on the porch with my neighbors, talk with people I have met at the library or meet people at the beach or at parks. That's not the same either.

I know many of the employees at the stores I go to. I could drive 12 hours and see my children and grandchildren at anytime. I have the truck and the money to do it. I have plenty of time. BUT, its not the same.
In the 5 years I have lived down here, I have been visited once by my children and their families and not as a determined will to see me but as a side-stop while they were going someplace else. That told me a lot. No phone calls or emails either. I removed EVERYONE from my facebook and nobody noticed. LOL, I see it for what it is.

With all the rejection and abandonment I have faced I am still not cold or rude. I hold no resentment except to my fate which was my fault anyway. I thought that if I worked hard and pushed myself it would pay off in the end. What a lie. I can only blame myself for my own delusions.

I used to be like that with some family and some friends, I took notice of this old guy I knew. His advice was
F**K EM!

See, I don't feel that way at all.
I'm not resentful.
I hold no disdain for anyone.
Its just the way it is, nothing more, nothing less.

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