Topic: The Healing Process....After Charlottesville!
mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/20/17 10:07 AM





Often a leader doesn't get his hands dirty, it's a well known fact, depends on how you look at it, the dreamy eyed rights people will see what they want rather than how it is.
And his wife winnie carried on for him whilst he was in prison!



who was he the leader of that he invoked to use violence? my understanding is that it was his christian upbringing and vocalizations for non violent measures EXCEPT in self defense that caused him to be incarcerated ,,,,


I have no troubles with seeing humans as they 'are', complex and constantly changing as they have new experiences and live longer,,,,



True, but then you get into a race division. Black Christians v white Christians. yes, it was the white who introduced Christianity to them wasn't it?
But if you go by what's being said now that there is no excuse for violence. you could label any opposition group as "terrorists "I guess
As if a label makes it any better.
I guess what the British did in Africa could be compared with settlers of America? Question?



I don't really see the racial element to Christianity but where perception about theft of land or oppression and murder for the power over land already occupied is concerned


or course it could



It definitely had a race division in the early days,
And wasn't that how America was formed? By the theft of land from the natives?


theft? no, taken is a better term... as with most history, they weren't strong enough to keep what they had... happened all throughout history... Genghis khan, the english, greeks and romans, everyone has their hands dirty in history when taking over the weaker peoples for land and monetary gain...

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/20/17 10:11 AM
thieves steal everyday from others not 'strong' enough to 'hold on ' to their stuff

still theft,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/20/17 10:16 AM

thieves steal everyday from others not 'strong' enough to 'hold on ' to their stuff

still theft,,,


tit for tat, who cares what we call it... it's done and over with, if y'all really want to waste your time deciding what to call an invasion 400 years ago, then be my guest...

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/20/17 10:17 AM
laugh laugh laugh

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:18 AM
Conrad_73,

you right again it was planned. I hate watching people die over nonsense.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:22 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Mon 08/21/17 10:23 AM
IMO both sides have to acknowledge their own hate and lay down arms. I don't see that happening though. When one aide pushes, the other side pushes back

This is no longer a one sided thing. Hate and voilence comes from many sides

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Mon 08/21/17 10:29 AM






Often a leader doesn't get his hands dirty, it's a well known fact, depends on how you look at it, the dreamy eyed rights people will see what they want rather than how it is.
And his wife winnie carried on for him whilst he was in prison!



who was he the leader of that he invoked to use violence? my understanding is that it was his christian upbringing and vocalizations for non violent measures EXCEPT in self defense that caused him to be incarcerated ,,,,


I have no troubles with seeing humans as they 'are', complex and constantly changing as they have new experiences and live longer,,,,



True, but then you get into a race division. Black Christians v white Christians. yes, it was the white who introduced Christianity to them wasn't it?
But if you go by what's being said now that there is no excuse for violence. you could label any opposition group as "terrorists "I guess
As if a label makes it any better.
I guess what the British did in Africa could be compared with settlers of America? Question?



I don't really see the racial element to Christianity but where perception about theft of land or oppression and murder for the power over land already occupied is concerned


or course it could



It definitely had a race division in the early days,
And wasn't that how America was formed? By the theft of land from the natives?


theft? no, taken is a better term... as with most history, they weren't strong enough to keep what they had... happened all throughout history... Genghis khan, the english, greeks and romans, everyone has their hands dirty in history when taking over the weaker peoples for land and monetary gain...

Yes moe, taken is more fitting. I was just using the term used earlier :thumbsup:

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Mon 08/21/17 10:31 AM






Often a leader doesn't get his hands dirty, it's a well known fact, depends on how you look at it, the dreamy eyed rights people will see what they want rather than how it is.
And his wife winnie carried on for him whilst he was in prison!



who was he the leader of that he invoked to use violence? my understanding is that it was his christian upbringing and vocalizations for non violent measures EXCEPT in self defense that caused him to be incarcerated ,,,,


I have no troubles with seeing humans as they 'are', complex and constantly changing as they have new experiences and live longer,,,,



True, but then you get into a race division. Black Christians v white Christians. yes, it was the white who introduced Christianity to them wasn't it?
But if you go by what's being said now that there is no excuse for violence. you could label any opposition group as "terrorists "I guess
As if a label makes it any better.
I guess what the British did in Africa could be compared with settlers of America? Question?



I don't really see the racial element to Christianity but where perception about theft of land or oppression and murder for the power over land already occupied is concerned


or course it could



It definitely had a race division in the early days,
And wasn't that how America was formed? By the theft of land from the natives?


Race was created after the biblical books were written. So christianity, or following christ, has no racial element.

People have chosen to segregate and determine how to treat others according to their race since that time, but

yes, America was 'formed' by doing alot of nasty things to other people.

To be honest ms, I've not read it. But I'm certain they had slavery in those times? So race would have played a part in that don't you think?

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Mon 08/21/17 10:34 AM

thieves steal everyday from others not 'strong' enough to 'hold on ' to their stuff

still theft,,,

animals do it all the time right now, food, mating partners, nests and territory!

no photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:39 AM
Moe, you got me on the aircraft carriers thread huh
They've successfully landed a drone on it although it was a bit tight! laugh
Maybe they might have some radar bits left over. they come in handy if you need to stop crashing into other ships surprised winking laugh

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:45 AM
Cool51A,

welcome to my cyber mansion, you right exile wouldn't be the answered but putting conscious thought of guilt & change is the remedy.

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:49 AM
YellowRose,

Hi, yup hate is one sided. what if we can make one sided thoughts change them in to multi dimensional?

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:54 AM
Cool51A,

welcome to my cyber mansion, you right exile wouldn't be the answered but putting conscious thought of guilt & change is the remedy.

EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Mon 08/21/17 10:55 AM
Mikey4YouSweet

Owwww.....Owww I want a drone , I want a drone...lol

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Mon 08/21/17 11:02 AM

Mikey4YouSweet

Owwww.....Owww I want a drone , I want a drone...lol

Then you will have one my son laugh
Moe caught me a good n in another thread, still trying to catch him!
Good post by the way :thumbsup:

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/21/17 11:11 AM

Moe, you got me on the aircraft carriers thread huh
They've successfully landed a drone on it although it was a bit tight! laugh
Maybe they might have some radar bits left over. they come in handy if you need to stop crashing into other ships surprised winking laugh


we do seem to be having a problem with crashing into ships lately... they fired the last captain that crashed a few weeks ago, this one will probably be gone as well..

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Mon 08/21/17 11:18 AM


Moe, you got me on the aircraft carriers thread huh
They've successfully landed a drone on it although it was a bit tight! laugh
Maybe they might have some radar bits left over. they come in handy if you need to stop crashing into other ships surprised winking laugh


we do seem to be having a problem with crashing into ships lately... they fired the last captain that crashed a few weeks ago, this one will probably be gone as well..

**** happens! Strange though whoa

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 08/21/17 11:22 AM

YellowRose,

Hi, yup hate is one sided. what if we can make one sided thoughts change them in to multi dimensional?


Hate is all over on many sides, but doesn't mean all of anything are the same.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/21/17 01:58 PM







Often a leader doesn't get his hands dirty, it's a well known fact, depends on how you look at it, the dreamy eyed rights people will see what they want rather than how it is.
And his wife winnie carried on for him whilst he was in prison!



who was he the leader of that he invoked to use violence? my understanding is that it was his christian upbringing and vocalizations for non violent measures EXCEPT in self defense that caused him to be incarcerated ,,,,


I have no troubles with seeing humans as they 'are', complex and constantly changing as they have new experiences and live longer,,,,



True, but then you get into a race division. Black Christians v white Christians. yes, it was the white who introduced Christianity to them wasn't it?
But if you go by what's being said now that there is no excuse for violence. you could label any opposition group as "terrorists "I guess
As if a label makes it any better.
I guess what the British did in Africa could be compared with settlers of America? Question?



I don't really see the racial element to Christianity but where perception about theft of land or oppression and murder for the power over land already occupied is concerned


or course it could



It definitely had a race division in the early days,
And wasn't that how America was formed? By the theft of land from the natives?


Race was created after the biblical books were written. So christianity, or following christ, has no racial element.

People have chosen to segregate and determine how to treat others according to their race since that time, but

yes, America was 'formed' by doing alot of nasty things to other people.

To be honest ms, I've not read it. But I'm certain they had slavery in those times? So race would have played a part in that don't you think?


not really, their slavery was not based upon any concept of 'race' because the concept was not created


their slavery was not based in a concept that had not yet been created, but more like that of paying off debts or crimes or being prisoners of war,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/21/17 02:45 PM







Often a leader doesn't get his hands dirty, it's a well known fact, depends on how you look at it, the dreamy eyed rights people will see what they want rather than how it is.
And his wife winnie carried on for him whilst he was in prison!



who was he the leader of that he invoked to use violence? my understanding is that it was his christian upbringing and vocalizations for non violent measures EXCEPT in self defense that caused him to be incarcerated ,,,,


I have no troubles with seeing humans as they 'are', complex and constantly changing as they have new experiences and live longer,,,,



True, but then you get into a race division. Black Christians v white Christians. yes, it was the white who introduced Christianity to them wasn't it?
But if you go by what's being said now that there is no excuse for violence. you could label any opposition group as "terrorists "I guess
As if a label makes it any better.
I guess what the British did in Africa could be compared with settlers of America? Question?



I don't really see the racial element to Christianity but where perception about theft of land or oppression and murder for the power over land already occupied is concerned


or course it could



It definitely had a race division in the early days,
And wasn't that how America was formed? By the theft of land from the natives?


Race was created after the biblical books were written. So christianity, or following christ, has no racial element.

People have chosen to segregate and determine how to treat others according to their race since that time, but

yes, America was 'formed' by doing alot of nasty things to other people.

To be honest ms, I've not read it. But I'm certain they had slavery in those times? So race would have played a part in that don't you think?
what country was formed without doing nasty things to people?