Topic: Emil Kraeplin- destroyer of lives
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Wed 05/30/18 05:07 PM
He helped destroy mine. People have been trying to prove the existence of schizophrenia for over 100 years and have still not done it. A common trick is to show a photo of 2 brain scans, 1 of a 'normal' brain, the other of a 'schizophrenic' one. When I asked to look again (when this trick was tried on me) it actually said on the piece of paper that 1 scan was of a normal brain, the other was a scan of a brain on psychiatric medication. Why would somebody pull such a stunt?
4% of people in Britain make a full recovery, which is remarkable as they say its incurable. Its nearly 50% in some other countries, such as India which is considered a 3rd world country. The word bedlam comes from an infamous London hospital of the same name. That hospital was knocked down and a new one built on the same site which is called Bethlehem hospital and is still there today. At the same time bedlam existed there was another less well known hospital called the York retreat in York, nearly 50% of people made a full recovery their. Mental health has gone backwards in my country and is a bind and a hex.

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Wed 05/30/18 06:38 PM
I'm guessing they wana sell drugs... Doctors are worse the preachers, they could care less, as long they make their money..

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Thu 05/31/18 01:27 AM
I'm gonna try this thread again in a few days, with a catchier more familiar title. I don't think many people know who the frig Emil kraepelin is

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Thu 05/31/18 06:44 AM

I'm gonna try this thread again in a few days, with a catchier more familiar title. I don't think many people know who the frig Emil kraepelin is
no clue here

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Thu 05/31/18 08:43 AM
The view taken by psychiatry nowadays is called neo kraepelinian after him. He kinda invented the word schizophrenia. That's the paradigm we are at

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Thu 05/31/18 08:46 AM

The view taken by psychiatry nowadays is called neo kraepelinian after him. He kinda invented the word schizophrenia. That's the paradigm we are at
one thing I've noticed, over here anyway, is that doctors aren't it for a cure of anything, there's no money in a cured problem...

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Thu 05/31/18 10:25 AM
Texas I see, not a cowboys fan I hope. I'm a skins man

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Thu 05/31/18 10:48 AM
R2D2...
I don't understand your point. If one scan was of a 'normal' brain and the other was of a brain on psychotropics, shouldn't they have been similar since, the psychotropics were meant to bring the brain back to a state of 'normalcy'?
The 100 years bit: So, just because some disease has been studied for great lengths of time makes the effort/disease bogus? We've been studying cancer for about the same length of time. Does that make cancer bogus?
The point is we've been making great strides in understanding and treatment in all medical fields and will continue to do so. Consider that polio has been virtually eradicated from the planet; leukemia and other cancers have been cured by piggybacking a drug on the back of viruses that attack T cells.
Schizophrenia is a complex dynamic; the brain, more so. With newer and more powerful tools for research, i.e. supercomputers and more powerful microscopes, more progress will be made.
Maybe one day, that Doc McCoy cure-all wand will be a reality. Until then, hang in there buddy, keep an even keel; do your due diligence in checking out potential healers. And when they show you MRI scans of brains, get a knowledgeable professional to give you a second opinion before accepting any diagnosis/treatment.

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Thu 05/31/18 10:55 AM
Edited by The Wrong Alice on Thu 05/31/18 10:58 AM
You've kind of answered your own question, yes I guess they should have been the same and it was the professionals showing me the scan. If they don't sing from the same hymn sheet they have to find another job, the amount of times I've heard, well I'd like to but my hands are tied. All I ask for is proof, there is none, and as for medical professional, have you ever seen or read 1 flew over the cuckoo's nest, if so then you will be familiar with nurse ratchett, that's the kind of professionals one has to deal with.

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Thu 05/31/18 11:14 AM
Yes, I saw it, for about the fourth time. One of my faves. And it is just that: a movie; created and marketed to make money; it's not real life, get it? So we can't make overarching suppositions such as: the entire medical profession is devious, out to get us, only in it for the money, yada yada.
Are some quacks? Definitely. Just as in any other enterprise, there will always be abusers, charlatans, fraudsters and thieves. It's our job to do due diligence, get all the knowledge we can before making decisions.

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Thu 05/31/18 11:35 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Thu 05/31/18 11:38 AM
When it come to debates and discussions, citing a source helps


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Kraepelin

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Thu 05/31/18 11:49 AM

Texas I see, not a cowboys fan I hope. I'm a skins man
yea, cowboys...I hate every team cept the boys in the NFC EAST... I know you know the feeling...lol

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Thu 05/31/18 01:30 PM
Edited by IMFrisson on Thu 05/31/18 01:34 PM
Kic
Your post of 11:19,
I was replying to R2D2. Probably my fault. I am new and haven't quite got the hang of quoting the post I am replying to. I am aware of Portable Data Files. I use them to upload some of my writing, among other things.
I agree the cost of prescription medications is through the roof in the US. However, compare the cost New Zealanders and Canadians pay where bulk purchasing by a government agency reduces costs. I know this may sound as too much socialization for many Americans, but if the choice is going bankrupt either due to prescription costs or insurance premiums, or dying, I would choose socialized medicine. Corporations do mergers and acquisitions all the time to achieve economy of scale, so why not individuals banding together to achieve same?

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Thu 05/31/18 01:40 PM
Thank you yellow rose, I can't do that at the moment. Dude 1 the book is far better, its told from the viewpoint of the Indian, and I've been sectioned, don't know what they call that where y'all come from, and believe me, it is like that. They just want you to be a dribbling sheep or a nodding dog, besides I'm talking about the experience in my country, I would be much better off in Ireland for instance which isn't too far away or Denmark even better, in fact most if not all other countries in Europe.

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Thu 05/31/18 02:03 PM
kic
Maybe you can help me out. When I press 'quote', I only see in the message box my original message and not your reply. How do I only make it show your reply?
Then, I've noticed that in a string of quotes, it is impossible to determine the author of each quote unless I scroll back through the posts to find the originator. Am I missing a keystroke procedure here or is that just the way it is?

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Thu 05/31/18 03:02 PM
Thanks