Topic: Abuse
msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:05 AM

He fit the description of the shooter and was running. He was a danger to shooting someone else. Do you understand that? The policeman had no way of knowing the thug ditched his gun before he ran.


which is it, did he 'ditch' his gun, or was he a danger of shooting someone else?

The policeman had no way of knowing he had a gun, because he didnt ...

he could watch him run AWAY with no gun in his hand though ...frustrated

Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:11 AM
Well, they didn't reach the vehicle until later. They seachered the thug later. They found guns in the vehicle and an empty magazine in his pocket. You are playing dumb again.

Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:13 AM
Well, they didn't search the vehicle until later. They seachered the thug later. They found guns in the vehicle and an empty magazine in his pocket. You are playing dumb again. The cop didn't know he ditched it. He was assumed to be armed and dangerous.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:14 AM

Well, they didn't reach the vehicle until later. They seachered the thug later. They found guns in the vehicle and an empty magazine in his pocket. You are playing dumb again.



if being human is playing dumb, I'll take it over whatever it is that makes so many people so bougeise regarding teens being gunned down by authorities ..


Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:16 AM
When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.

no photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:34 AM



I guess its the same reason so many youth "glorify" promiscuous sex, or irresponsible drinking ... its the reality that they know.

the conversation of whether telling details of an event is the same as glorifying it can be for another thread




Youths have always glorified promiscuous sex or irresponsible drinking, whether it was the 40's during the jazz era where parents called it "the devil's music" to the rebellious teens in the 50's, free love in the 60's, sex , drugs and rock n roll of the 70's remember the groups "the Doobie brothers" or Eric Clapton's hit " cocaine" or Ian Dury classic "sex , drugs and rock n roll"

my point is it has existed in every generation, its only today we are understanding the effects of such decisions

Back then for whatever reason grown men were talking about dating 16 and 17 years old, look at how many hit songs of that era is about 17 and 16 year old girls

Today an male artist cannot sing about dating or loving a 16 or 17 year old or he will be labeled a sexual pervert.

Today music glorifies the thug life, why do you think kids act out the thug life like a lot of their musical heroes?



msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:38 AM

When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:40 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 06/24/18 08:41 AM




I guess its the same reason so many youth "glorify" promiscuous sex, or irresponsible drinking ... its the reality that they know.

the conversation of whether telling details of an event is the same as glorifying it can be for another thread




Youths have always glorified promiscuous sex or irresponsible drinking, whether it was the 40's during the jazz era where parents called it "the devil's music" to the rebellious teens in the 50's, free love in the 60's, sex , drugs and rock n roll of the 70's remember the groups "the Doobie brothers" or Eric Clapton's hit " cocaine" or Ian Dury classic "sex , drugs and rock n roll"

my point is it has existed in every generation, its only today we are understanding the effects of such decisions

Back then for whatever reason grown men were talking about dating 16 and 17 years old, look at how many hit songs of that era is about 17 and 16 year old girls

Today an male artist cannot sing about dating or loving a 16 or 17 year old or he will be labeled a sexual pervert.

Today music glorifies the thug life, why do you think kids act out the thug life like a lot of their musical heroes?





its a vicious circle like anything else

people live in concentrated poverty and violence, and they ahve a way out by sharing their stories.

others hear those stories and depending upon their perception and experience, take it as 'glorification' or words of caution, or 'just a story'


some hear those stories and try to emulate them, associating that with the end result of those who got out, instead of using the logic to know HOW they got out was in spite of and not BECAUSE of the story ...


sad thing about this story was this teen appeared from his history to not be emulating that life at all and to desperately figure out how to escape that fate ...

Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:44 AM


When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.


Why run if they aren't guilty? Normal people can make the connection.
Why was the back window busted out? That also connects them
Why did they have guns?
Will you feel different after they are proven guilty?

no photo
Sun 06/24/18 08:49 AM


its a vicious circle like anything else

people live in concentrated poverty and violence, and they ahve a way out by sharing their stories.

others hear those stories and depending upon their perception and experience, take it as 'glorification' or words of caution, or 'just a story'

huh?
50 cents, Tupac, Biggie smalls and many others bragged about the thug life, its different from grand master flash and Run DMC that told stories about life in the hood, they didnt glorify anything.


some hear those stories and try to emulate them, associating that with the end result of those who got out, instead of using the logic to know HOW they got out was in spite of and not BECAUSE of the story ...


so what? and people grow up too, some people see it for what it is and some people have no intelligence and try to emulate them, its been like that since the 1940's,


sad thing about this story was this teen appeared from his history to not be emulating that life at all and to desperately figure out how to escape that fate ...


He was involved in a shooting? what part of the phrase " involved in a shooting" do you not understand?

Do I have to explain the concept of shooting to you ?


msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 09:28 AM



When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.


Why run if they aren't guilty? Normal people can make the connection.
Why was the back window busted out? That also connects them
Why did they have guns?
Will you feel different after they are proven guilty?



Why run if they arent guilty? People often run from others who they feel are a danger, whether they have feelings of 'guilt' or not.

Why was the back window busted out? that would be a question the driver of the car could answer.

Why did they have guns? I dont know who had the guns or why they had them.

No. I will not feel different about shooting an unarmed teen in the back. Will you feel different if HE is found 'not guilty' of shooting anyone?

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 09:30 AM



its a vicious circle like anything else

people live in concentrated poverty and violence, and they ahve a way out by sharing their stories.

others hear those stories and depending upon their perception and experience, take it as 'glorification' or words of caution, or 'just a story'

huh?
50 cents, Tupac, Biggie smalls and many others bragged about the thug life, its different from grand master flash and Run DMC that told stories about life in the hood, they didnt glorify anything.


some hear those stories and try to emulate them, associating that with the end result of those who got out, instead of using the logic to know HOW they got out was in spite of and not BECAUSE of the story ...


so what? and people grow up too, some people see it for what it is and some people have no intelligence and try to emulate them, its been like that since the 1940's,


sad thing about this story was this teen appeared from his history to not be emulating that life at all and to desperately figure out how to escape that fate ...


He was involved in a shooting? what part of the phrase " involved in a shooting" do you not understand?

Do I have to explain the concept of shooting to you ?





and what part of that refutes that the teen's HISTORY revealed someone not emulating the life and trying to figure out how to escape it?


Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 09:55 AM




When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.


Why run if they aren't guilty? Normal people can make the connection.
Why was the back window busted out? That also connects them
Why did they have guns?
Will you feel different after they are proven guilty?



Why run if they arent guilty? People often run from others who they feel are a danger, whether they have feelings of 'guilt' or not.

Why was the back window busted out? that would be a question the driver of the car could answer.

Why did they have guns? I dont know who had the guns or why they had them.

No. I will not feel different about shooting an unarmed teen in the back. Will you feel different if HE is found 'not guilty' of shooting anyone?


Why was this teen who was a pillar of his community, afraid of a traffic stop? You can play dumb but the rest of society see things for how they are. Do you run when a policeman tries to pull you over?

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 10:07 AM





When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.


Why run if they aren't guilty? Normal people can make the connection.
Why was the back window busted out? That also connects them
Why did they have guns?
Will you feel different after they are proven guilty?



Why run if they arent guilty? People often run from others who they feel are a danger, whether they have feelings of 'guilt' or not.

Why was the back window busted out? that would be a question the driver of the car could answer.

Why did they have guns? I dont know who had the guns or why they had them.

No. I will not feel different about shooting an unarmed teen in the back. Will you feel different if HE is found 'not guilty' of shooting anyone?


Why was this teen who was a pillar of his community, afraid of a traffic stop? You can play dumb but the rest of society see things for how they are. Do you run when a policeman tries to pull you over?


because he was afraid in general, because of the environment he was in? We really cant ask him now, can we. And fearfulness is also not justification for someone to be SHOT IN THE BACK.


But keep on pressing with the argument that running should justify instant death penalty. Im sure many will agree. But Im not one.

Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 10:12 AM
Edited by Easttowest72 on Sun 06/24/18 10:13 AM






When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.


Why run if they aren't guilty? Normal people can make the connection.
Why was the back window busted out? That also connects them
Why did they have guns?
Will you feel different after they are proven guilty?



Why run if they arent guilty? People often run from others who they feel are a danger, whether they have feelings of 'guilt' or not.

Why was the back window busted out? that would be a question the driver of the car could answer.

Why did they have guns? I dont know who had the guns or why they had them.

No. I will not feel different about shooting an unarmed teen in the back. Will you feel different if HE is found 'not guilty' of shooting anyone?


Why was this teen who was a pillar of his community, afraid of a traffic stop? You can play dumb but the rest of society see things for how they are. Do you run when a policeman tries to pull you over?


because he was afraid in general, because of the environment he was in? We really cant ask him now, can we. And fearfulness is also not justification for someone to be SHOT IN THE BACK.


But keep on pressing with the argument that running should justify instant death penalty. Im sure many will agree. But Im not one.



Would you feel different if it had been you the thug shot? Could you maybe have some gratitude to the police officer even though his skin is white?

no photo
Sun 06/24/18 10:12 AM

Why run if they arent guilty? People often run from others who they feel are a danger, whether they have feelings of 'guilt' or not.

Why was the back window busted out? that would be a question the driver of the car could answer.

Why did they have guns? I dont know who had the guns or why they had them.

No. I will not feel different about shooting an unarmed teen in the back. Will you feel different if HE is found 'not guilty' of shooting anyone?


the driver of that vehicle didnt run, he wasnt shot, he was arrested, taken in , questioned and then released.

Will I feel guilty of if he found not guilty of shooting anyone? what kind of question is that?

would you feel guilty if it was found out that he shot the person?

and what part of that refutes that the teen's HISTORY revealed someone not emulating the life and trying to figure out how to escape it?


the same part that says to me why would you run from the police if you're innocent? the same part that says the police stopped that car because it matched the description of the assailants shooting someone else

Ive asked you this question earlier and you refuse to answer even though I know your response.

Would you or have you ever run from the police when stopped?


no photo
Sun 06/24/18 10:18 AM




What was keeping the black boy from getting a job?


he had one ... he didnt have to be there 24/7 though

and what has that to do with the statement about anyone blaming 'whites' or constant references to blacks?



Where did he work?


why does that matter to you? are you serious right now? What are the next questions?

How often did he work?
how much did he earn?
was he on food stamps?

smh


NOW are you starting to understand why it's illegal for siblings to procreate?

Easttowest72's photo
Sun 06/24/18 10:26 AM





What was keeping the black boy from getting a job?


he had one ... he didnt have to be there 24/7 though

and what has that to do with the statement about anyone blaming 'whites' or constant references to blacks?



Where did he work?


why does that matter to you? are you serious right now? What are the next questions?

How often did he work?
how much did he earn?
was he on food stamps?

smh


NOW are you starting to understand why it's illegal for siblings to procreate?


Is it because they produce people who aren't smart enough to figure out a person only runs from the police when they are guilty? :grin:

no photo
Sun 06/24/18 10:27 AM
You should run a psychic hotline.. Imagine the money!

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/24/18 11:04 AM







When police are looking for a shooter, they assume they are armed. Do you understand that?

He ran. They have the guns and in the process of building their case. Remember, there is still a thug to be prosecuted.


yes, they assume the SHOOTER to be armed, they dont ASSUME who the shooter is. Three people in a vehicle matching the description does not clarify who a shooter is. And if they are running and not BRANDISHING a weapon in threatening manner, shooting them IN THE BACK is cowardly and should not be excusable.


Why run if they aren't guilty? Normal people can make the connection.
Why was the back window busted out? That also connects them
Why did they have guns?
Will you feel different after they are proven guilty?



Why run if they arent guilty? People often run from others who they feel are a danger, whether they have feelings of 'guilt' or not.

Why was the back window busted out? that would be a question the driver of the car could answer.

Why did they have guns? I dont know who had the guns or why they had them.

No. I will not feel different about shooting an unarmed teen in the back. Will you feel different if HE is found 'not guilty' of shooting anyone?


Why was this teen who was a pillar of his community, afraid of a traffic stop? You can play dumb but the rest of society see things for how they are. Do you run when a policeman tries to pull you over?


because he was afraid in general, because of the environment he was in? We really cant ask him now, can we. And fearfulness is also not justification for someone to be SHOT IN THE BACK.


But keep on pressing with the argument that running should justify instant death penalty. Im sure many will agree. But Im not one.



Would you feel different if it had been you the thug shot? Could you maybe have some gratitude to the police officer even though his skin is white?



no matter how many justifications you give, YES, I would feel the same if someone had shot me and been shot in the BACK trying to 'run' at a later time with no weapon in their hand.