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Topic: The Cave Paintings of Tassili n’Ajje
mightymoe's photo
Fri 07/27/18 10:56 PM





Who cares lol but what about that elephant painting though :heart_eyes:I’m in love

Higher intelligent animals can be trained to paint on canvas.
They don't just find color and paint tho.
They have to be outfitted by humans.
But, what they draw comes from their mind, unless they are being stimulated by a human.
Birds create complex song and dance on their own.

It is a known fact that ancient people used battery powered lights during pyramid construction. To do so, those crude batteries had to have been invented first. Pyramid builders also used pictographs in pyramid construction, a writing that had to be invented before it was etched in rock.

To use a quote from Alien VS Predator (2004) where is "Moses's DVD collection"?
Where is the alien fossil record?
Doesn't it seem odd that paleontologists can find ancient humans and evidence of farming, hunting and camp making but find absolutely no evidence of alien footprint? Aside from some occasional crude cave painting?

Some will say the Nazca Lines are landing strips for alien astronauts.
This makes no sense for a couple reasons.
First the nature of the lines being in the form of pictographs of animals
but more importantly, because as crude as human space flight is, we don't need a landing strip to land on another moon or planet. If aliens were advanced enough to visit the Earth and cross such vast distances, don't you think they would be able to land without directions from the local planet's inhabitants?
Most likely, the Nazca Lines were made because they observed shooting stars and thought they were intelligent life or Gods and were trying to talk with them using pictographs (their form of written language).

Baloney Detection
How to draw boundaries between science and pseudoscience
http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

4. How does the claim fit with what we know about how the world works?

10. Do the claimant's personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?

http://www.openculture.com/2016/04/carl-sagan-presents-his-baloney-detection-kit-8-tools-for-skeptical-thinking.html

Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler. Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified…. You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

I know how smart elephants are I swam with them and spent a whole day with them in Thailand I have an amazing story about them...
I heard they're tasty...

Look if you want to be my friend you can’t go around eating animals mmmmkay....but you can go swimming with them next time I go if you want...
well, I'm not a rabbit, I eat and enjoy animals... especially with a little BBQ sauce, a baked potato on the side, and a cold beer...the more well done, the better .you can't tell the mighty owl not to swoop down and eat that cat...eating animals is our birthright, it's eat or be eaten, that's the way the world is...

Aroundtheworld37's photo
Fri 07/27/18 10:58 PM






Who cares lol but what about that elephant painting though :heart_eyes:I’m in love

Higher intelligent animals can be trained to paint on canvas.
They don't just find color and paint tho.
They have to be outfitted by humans.
But, what they draw comes from their mind, unless they are being stimulated by a human.
Birds create complex song and dance on their own.

It is a known fact that ancient people used battery powered lights during pyramid construction. To do so, those crude batteries had to have been invented first. Pyramid builders also used pictographs in pyramid construction, a writing that had to be invented before it was etched in rock.

To use a quote from Alien VS Predator (2004) where is "Moses's DVD collection"?
Where is the alien fossil record?
Doesn't it seem odd that paleontologists can find ancient humans and evidence of farming, hunting and camp making but find absolutely no evidence of alien footprint? Aside from some occasional crude cave painting?

Some will say the Nazca Lines are landing strips for alien astronauts.
This makes no sense for a couple reasons.
First the nature of the lines being in the form of pictographs of animals
but more importantly, because as crude as human space flight is, we don't need a landing strip to land on another moon or planet. If aliens were advanced enough to visit the Earth and cross such vast distances, don't you think they would be able to land without directions from the local planet's inhabitants?
Most likely, the Nazca Lines were made because they observed shooting stars and thought they were intelligent life or Gods and were trying to talk with them using pictographs (their form of written language).

Baloney Detection
How to draw boundaries between science and pseudoscience
http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

4. How does the claim fit with what we know about how the world works?

10. Do the claimant's personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?

http://www.openculture.com/2016/04/carl-sagan-presents-his-baloney-detection-kit-8-tools-for-skeptical-thinking.html

Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler. Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified…. You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

I know how smart elephants are I swam with them and spent a whole day with them in Thailand I have an amazing story about them...
I heard they're tasty...

Look if you want to be my friend you can’t go around eating animals mmmmkay....but you can go swimming with them next time I go if you want...
well, I'm not a rabbit, I eat and enjoy animals... especially with a little BBQ sauce, a baked potato on the side, and a cold beer...the more well done, the better .you can't tell the mighty owl not to swoop down and eat that cat...eating animals is our birthright, it's eat or be eaten, that's the way the world is...

Try again....

mightymoe's photo
Fri 07/27/18 10:59 PM







Who cares lol but what about that elephant painting though :heart_eyes:I’m in love

Higher intelligent animals can be trained to paint on canvas.
They don't just find color and paint tho.
They have to be outfitted by humans.
But, what they draw comes from their mind, unless they are being stimulated by a human.
Birds create complex song and dance on their own.

It is a known fact that ancient people used battery powered lights during pyramid construction. To do so, those crude batteries had to have been invented first. Pyramid builders also used pictographs in pyramid construction, a writing that had to be invented before it was etched in rock.

To use a quote from Alien VS Predator (2004) where is "Moses's DVD collection"?
Where is the alien fossil record?
Doesn't it seem odd that paleontologists can find ancient humans and evidence of farming, hunting and camp making but find absolutely no evidence of alien footprint? Aside from some occasional crude cave painting?

Some will say the Nazca Lines are landing strips for alien astronauts.
This makes no sense for a couple reasons.
First the nature of the lines being in the form of pictographs of animals
but more importantly, because as crude as human space flight is, we don't need a landing strip to land on another moon or planet. If aliens were advanced enough to visit the Earth and cross such vast distances, don't you think they would be able to land without directions from the local planet's inhabitants?
Most likely, the Nazca Lines were made because they observed shooting stars and thought they were intelligent life or Gods and were trying to talk with them using pictographs (their form of written language).

Baloney Detection
How to draw boundaries between science and pseudoscience
http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

4. How does the claim fit with what we know about how the world works?

10. Do the claimant's personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?

http://www.openculture.com/2016/04/carl-sagan-presents-his-baloney-detection-kit-8-tools-for-skeptical-thinking.html

Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler. Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified…. You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

I know how smart elephants are I swam with them and spent a whole day with them in Thailand I have an amazing story about them...
I heard they're tasty...

Look if you want to be my friend you can’t go around eating animals mmmmkay....but you can go swimming with them next time I go if you want...
well, I'm not a rabbit, I eat and enjoy animals... especially with a little BBQ sauce, a baked potato on the side, and a cold beer...the more well done, the better....

Wrong answer...try again...
I guess we just weren't meant to be friends then...

Aroundtheworld37's photo
Fri 07/27/18 10:59 PM








Who cares lol but what about that elephant painting though :heart_eyes:I’m in love

Higher intelligent animals can be trained to paint on canvas.
They don't just find color and paint tho.
They have to be outfitted by humans.
But, what they draw comes from their mind, unless they are being stimulated by a human.
Birds create complex song and dance on their own.

It is a known fact that ancient people used battery powered lights during pyramid construction. To do so, those crude batteries had to have been invented first. Pyramid builders also used pictographs in pyramid construction, a writing that had to be invented before it was etched in rock.

To use a quote from Alien VS Predator (2004) where is "Moses's DVD collection"?
Where is the alien fossil record?
Doesn't it seem odd that paleontologists can find ancient humans and evidence of farming, hunting and camp making but find absolutely no evidence of alien footprint? Aside from some occasional crude cave painting?

Some will say the Nazca Lines are landing strips for alien astronauts.
This makes no sense for a couple reasons.
First the nature of the lines being in the form of pictographs of animals
but more importantly, because as crude as human space flight is, we don't need a landing strip to land on another moon or planet. If aliens were advanced enough to visit the Earth and cross such vast distances, don't you think they would be able to land without directions from the local planet's inhabitants?
Most likely, the Nazca Lines were made because they observed shooting stars and thought they were intelligent life or Gods and were trying to talk with them using pictographs (their form of written language).

Baloney Detection
How to draw boundaries between science and pseudoscience
http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

4. How does the claim fit with what we know about how the world works?

10. Do the claimant's personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?

http://www.openculture.com/2016/04/carl-sagan-presents-his-baloney-detection-kit-8-tools-for-skeptical-thinking.html

Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler. Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified…. You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

I know how smart elephants are I swam with them and spent a whole day with them in Thailand I have an amazing story about them...
I heard they're tasty...

Look if you want to be my friend you can’t go around eating animals mmmmkay....but you can go swimming with them next time I go if you want...
well, I'm not a rabbit, I eat and enjoy animals... especially with a little BBQ sauce, a baked potato on the side, and a cold beer...the more well done, the better....

Wrong answer...try again...
I guess we just weren't meant to be friends then...

🤦‍♀️

notbeold's photo
Sat 07/28/18 07:37 AM
The original inhabitants and true owners of the Great South Land, (now occupied and controlled by the Australia corporation), have been drawing reproductions of what they have seen for many tens of thousands of years.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design, but pictures of extinct animals from long before the last ice age, which archaeologists have found actual bones of, and dated, and dated the art, with both the ages in agreement.
Northern hemisphere historians almost always ignore the oldest enduring continuing culture on the planet, who invented bread making, and farming, and 'religion' long before sumeria, Mesopotamia, and other so called 'first' cultures.
They have extremely old pictures of some really weird animals, and humanoid forms.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/28/18 08:12 AM

The original inhabitants and true owners of the Great South Land, (now occupied and controlled by the Australia corporation), have been drawing reproductions of what they have seen for many tens of thousands of years.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design, but pictures of extinct animals from long before the last ice age, which archaeologists have found actual bones of, and dated, and dated the art, with both the ages in agreement.
Northern hemisphere historians almost always ignore the oldest enduring continuing culture on the planet, who invented bread making, and farming, and 'religion' long before sumeria, Mesopotamia, and other so called 'first' cultures.
They have extremely old pictures of some really weird animals, and humanoid forms.
I think it's closer to 50,000 years instead of 10,000... aboriginals are the oldest tribes left on the planet

notbeold's photo
Sat 07/28/18 08:35 AM
The term 'Aboriginal' is the name of the tribe of people who lived where Rome is, before Remus and Romulus made a city.
Just as first nation Americans never ate curry, first nation 'Australians never knew European lands and were never 'Aboriginals'.
Invading Europeans never cared to know the real names of the conquested peoples, or understand their cultures, and being ignorant just used irrelevant names they already knew.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/28/18 08:39 AM

The term 'Aboriginal' is the name of the tribe of people who lived where Rome is, before Remus and Romulus made a city.
Just as first nation Americans never ate curry, first nation 'Australians never knew European lands and were never 'Aboriginals'.
Invading Europeans never cared to know the real names of the conquested peoples, or understand their cultures, and being ignorant just used irrelevant names they already knew.
yea, I was think aboriginals means natives, but in Australia the name stuck around with them...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 07/28/18 08:48 AM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Sat 07/28/18 08:50 AM

The original inhabitants and true owners of the Great South Land, (now occupied and controlled by the Australia corporation), have been drawing reproductions of what they have seen for many tens of thousands of years.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design, but pictures of extinct animals from long before the last ice age, which archaeologists have found actual bones of, and dated, and dated the art, with both the ages in agreement.
Northern hemisphere historians almost always ignore the oldest enduring continuing culture on the planet, who invented bread making, and farming, and 'religion' long before sumeria, Mesopotamia, and other so called 'first' cultures.
They have extremely old pictures of some really weird animals, and humanoid forms.

drawing reproductions of what they have seen and what they have imagined.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design.
I agree.
The thing about ancient cave art that many people forget is the artists were not practiced artists. The art was 'good enough' because its target audience was probably listening to the artist while he was drawing/painting the illustration.
Its very unlikely that they were trying to historically render in accuracy for people tens of thousands of years in the future, if they could even fathom such long distance future in the first place.
Most likely they were drawn to teach their offspring and didn't need much accuracy because of the narrative that went with it. Without that narrative, we can never know what these drawing represent in actuality.

I can tell you a story with a whiteboard in a morning class and when the afternoon class shows up and looks at the whiteboard, they have no idea what I said or what those drawings represent unless I tell them. Since I wasn't trying to make a life representation of every detail, my drawing will be crude and have exaggerations for emphasis.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/28/18 09:50 AM

Austrailian cave drawings of the Waddjina (cloud spirits). These beings came down from the heavens, riding serpents and brought human life, knowledge, and agriculture to the ancient aboriginal people.


mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/28/18 09:53 AM


The original inhabitants and true owners of the Great South Land, (now occupied and controlled by the Australia corporation), have been drawing reproductions of what they have seen for many tens of thousands of years.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design, but pictures of extinct animals from long before the last ice age, which archaeologists have found actual bones of, and dated, and dated the art, with both the ages in agreement.
Northern hemisphere historians almost always ignore the oldest enduring continuing culture on the planet, who invented bread making, and farming, and 'religion' long before sumeria, Mesopotamia, and other so called 'first' cultures.
They have extremely old pictures of some really weird animals, and humanoid forms.

drawing reproductions of what they have seen and what they have imagined.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design.
I agree.
The thing about ancient cave art that many people forget is the artists were not practiced artists. The art was 'good enough' because its target audience was probably listening to the artist while he was drawing/painting the illustration.
Its very unlikely that they were trying to historically render in accuracy for people tens of thousands of years in the future, if they could even fathom such long distance future in the first place.
Most likely they were drawn to teach their offspring and didn't need much accuracy because of the narrative that went with it. Without that narrative, we can never know what these drawing represent in actuality.

I can tell you a story with a whiteboard in a morning class and when the afternoon class shows up and looks at the whiteboard, they have no idea what I said or what those drawings represent unless I tell them. Since I wasn't trying to make a life representation of every detail, my drawing will be crude and have exaggerations for emphasis.
you might find this interesting
http://www.theancientaliens.com/untitled
Go to the ancient technology section

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 07/28/18 10:07 AM


Austrailian cave drawings of the Waddjina (cloud spirits). These beings came down from the heavens, riding serpents and brought human life, knowledge, and agriculture to the ancient aboriginal people.

Sorry, I don't see aliens at all?
I see headdresses and earrings, simplified human faces and even a family of four in the bottom right corner.
A leader, his wife and their two little children.
I also don't see serpents but I do see various staffs and clubs made from twisted wood.
I also see Waldo...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 07/28/18 10:39 AM



The original inhabitants and true owners of the Great South Land, (now occupied and controlled by the Australia corporation), have been drawing reproductions of what they have seen for many tens of thousands of years.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design, but pictures of extinct animals from long before the last ice age, which archaeologists have found actual bones of, and dated, and dated the art, with both the ages in agreement.
Northern hemisphere historians almost always ignore the oldest enduring continuing culture on the planet, who invented bread making, and farming, and 'religion' long before sumeria, Mesopotamia, and other so called 'first' cultures.
They have extremely old pictures of some really weird animals, and humanoid forms.

drawing reproductions of what they have seen and what they have imagined.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design.
I agree.
The thing about ancient cave art that many people forget is the artists were not practiced artists. The art was 'good enough' because its target audience was probably listening to the artist while he was drawing/painting the illustration.
Its very unlikely that they were trying to historically render in accuracy for people tens of thousands of years in the future, if they could even fathom such long distance future in the first place.
Most likely they were drawn to teach their offspring and didn't need much accuracy because of the narrative that went with it. Without that narrative, we can never know what these drawing represent in actuality.

I can tell you a story with a whiteboard in a morning class and when the afternoon class shows up and looks at the whiteboard, they have no idea what I said or what those drawings represent unless I tell them. Since I wasn't trying to make a life representation of every detail, my drawing will be crude and have exaggerations for emphasis.
you might find this interesting
http://www.theancientaliens.com/untitled
Go to the ancient technology section

Quimbaya (Tolima) Airplanes, looking at the picture of 9 models, I see various birds and insects being represented by skilled craftsmen. At the time, Dated between 1000 B.C.-1000 A.D., the pyramids and other complex, skilled manufactured items already exist. While the craftsmanship is really good, it doesn't indicate they are representations of reality in exact detail. A child can fold a complex paper airplane that flies but that doesn't mean that style of airplane exists as anything but the child's creation.

Antikythera Mechanism, looking at the picture of the original, indicates nothing special about its construction aside from the fact that 'we' don't know what it was used for. There are more complex artifacts from much earlier periods. The device can be just about anything or it could be just a part of something else. A door mechanism, an irrigation valve, a large orrery mechanism.

Dendera Light Bulb, from Egypt is another invention that was used along with the Egyptian Battery to allow workers to work inside the pyramids.
All possible technology during that time.

Vimana is interesting to me but not a reality. The only evidence of the Vimana is the plans to make it and illustrations of how it would look in operation. However, since the plans are available, why has nobody built and produced it? Because it doesn't work. If it did, I'm sure some aerospace corporation would have jumped on it by now.

I give you a site that you might find interesting...


http://lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

This museum is a celebration of fascinating devices that don't work. It houses diverse examples of the perverse genius of inventors who refused to let their thinking be intimidated by the laws of nature, remaining optimistic in the face of repeated failures. Watch and be amazed as we bring to life eccentric and even intricate perpetual motion machines that have remained steadfastly unmoving since their inception. Marvel at the ingenuity of the human mind, as it reinvents the square wheel in all of its possible variations. Exercise your mind to puzzle out exactly why they don't work as the inventors intended.

How many, could be found in the future 3-5,000 years and some nut with an agenda calls them out as alien in origin.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/28/18 11:06 AM




The original inhabitants and true owners of the Great South Land, (now occupied and controlled by the Australia corporation), have been drawing reproductions of what they have seen for many tens of thousands of years.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design, but pictures of extinct animals from long before the last ice age, which archaeologists have found actual bones of, and dated, and dated the art, with both the ages in agreement.
Northern hemisphere historians almost always ignore the oldest enduring continuing culture on the planet, who invented bread making, and farming, and 'religion' long before sumeria, Mesopotamia, and other so called 'first' cultures.
They have extremely old pictures of some really weird animals, and humanoid forms.

drawing reproductions of what they have seen and what they have imagined.
Not just made up (abstract) art and design.
I agree.
The thing about ancient cave art that many people forget is the artists were not practiced artists. The art was 'good enough' because its target audience was probably listening to the artist while he was drawing/painting the illustration.
Its very unlikely that they were trying to historically render in accuracy for people tens of thousands of years in the future, if they could even fathom such long distance future in the first place.
Most likely they were drawn to teach their offspring and didn't need much accuracy because of the narrative that went with it. Without that narrative, we can never know what these drawing represent in actuality.

I can tell you a story with a whiteboard in a morning class and when the afternoon class shows up and looks at the whiteboard, they have no idea what I said or what those drawings represent unless I tell them. Since I wasn't trying to make a life representation of every detail, my drawing will be crude and have exaggerations for emphasis.
you might find this interesting
http://www.theancientaliens.com/untitled
Go to the ancient technology section

Quimbaya (Tolima) Airplanes, looking at the picture of 9 models, I see various birds and insects being represented by skilled craftsmen. At the time, Dated between 1000 B.C.-1000 A.D., the pyramids and other complex, skilled manufactured items already exist. While the craftsmanship is really good, it doesn't indicate they are representations of reality in exact detail. A child can fold a complex paper airplane that flies but that doesn't mean that style of airplane exists as anything but the child's creation.

Antikythera Mechanism, looking at the picture of the original, indicates nothing special about its construction aside from the fact that 'we' don't know what it was used for. There are more complex artifacts from much earlier periods. The device can be just about anything or it could be just a part of something else. A door mechanism, an irrigation valve, a large orrery mechanism.

Dendera Light Bulb, from Egypt is another invention that was used along with the Egyptian Battery to allow workers to work inside the pyramids.
All possible technology during that time.

Vimana is interesting to me but not a reality. The only evidence of the Vimana is the plans to make it and illustrations of how it would look in operation. However, since the plans are available, why has nobody built and produced it? Because it doesn't work. If it did, I'm sure some aerospace corporation would have jumped on it by now.

I give you a site that you might find interesting...


http://lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

This museum is a celebration of fascinating devices that don't work. It houses diverse examples of the perverse genius of inventors who refused to let their thinking be intimidated by the laws of nature, remaining optimistic in the face of repeated failures. Watch and be amazed as we bring to life eccentric and even intricate perpetual motion machines that have remained steadfastly unmoving since their inception. Marvel at the ingenuity of the human mind, as it reinvents the square wheel in all of its possible variations. Exercise your mind to puzzle out exactly why they don't work as the inventors intended.

How many, could be found in the future 3-5,000 years and some nut with an agenda calls them out as alien in origin.
I think I'll create a perpetual motion machine...I'll get the energy from another dimension so it's unlimited...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 07/28/18 11:32 AM
Y'know, I never could figure out why a type of perpetual motion can't be achieved by generators and motors. All you would need is a series of high capacity low-imput generators driving low torque motors.
After the initial push to get it all started, the rolling action of the motor driven wheel drives the generators. Think of two buggies wheel to wheel one inverted and one upright.
With high capacity generators the surplus power could be redirected to a space station's battery banks. Add some capacitors and the motors could be kept running, causing the wheel action (or gear action) to drive the generators.
In the micro-gravity of space, the drag would be minimized.

notbeold's photo
Sun 07/29/18 06:58 AM
All mechanical devices have friction which saps any possible gains: bearings, seals, gear faces, chain link pivots, hydraulic turbulence, the list goes on.

The closest free energy I have found is many aerials collecting static electricity and putting it through diodes to rectify it and transistors to amplify it; even then the 'free power' is so small as to be practically useless.
Ever tried to plug a small speaker into a radio crystal set - it just won't drive it. offtopic
You are right about context Tom. And different cultures see exactly the same things in different ways.

Remember the old Buck Rogers movie, where the historians of the future (in the movie) got everything so wrong; we often do the same now. Only a time machine can give us the truth.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sun 07/29/18 08:28 AM
Friction and heat are related (the search for a room-temperature super-conductor?) and in space the heat is quickly dissipated. Also, in space there is less gravity and resistance. I force is needed to get a mass to move but less, if any force at all, is required to keep that mass moving.
This is why I think if a perpetual motion machine could work, it will likely work in space.

The actual meaning of anything requires first hand experience because meaning is relative to the observer. Ask a computer to describe any picture drawn by a person and you will get an observance of what is drawn.
Ask a person to do the same in isolation and you will get a different meaning from each person on what each picture means.
Ask people together to find out if what they see is what they think it means and many people will agree by association.

So, If I show a picture and say "hey, that looks like a space ship" people will look at the picture and see a space ship.

If you look at a cloud, it is a cloud but for you it might resemble a battleship or a monkey. But, if you never saw a battleship or a monkey and someone else points to that cloud and tells you it does, you might agree or you might just see a cloud. A computer will see a cloud.
Johnny Five from Short Circuit (1986) first saw a cloud then said it resembles other things. The "resembles" addition indicated he had imagination.

As a parent, I put my children's paintings and drawings on the fridge door. My children told the story of what they drew. I saw those pictures as those things even tho they were not actual representations of those things in real life. I remember one looked like a rocket ship that turned out to be our house. Another looked like a bag with a bunch of snakes escaping that turned out to be the tree in the yard during winter.
I had some fun with a friend of mine by telling him the story when he first saw the picture that my son drew a picture of a snake invasion and everyone had to get on a rocket ship and leave the planet.
Later on, a few weeks later, I was on the phone with him and he told me he put the business card on the fridge right beside the picture of the snakes and rocket ship. I found it funny that I always saw the house and tree and he always saw snakes and a rocket ship.

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