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Topic: Pakistan elects it's "Trump"
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Mon 07/30/18 09:54 AM
The election last week of Imran Khan as Pakistan's new prime minister is the latest political upset to rock 'the establishment' across many countries in recent years. Derided as a 'populist', Khan leads a new movement that is socially conservative, economically 'leftist', and ultimately nationalist.

From Mexico's AMLO to Malaysia's Mahathir, 'Trumps' are coming to power all over the world. Whatever their political background, the one thing they have in common is an essential patriotism that runs counter to the pro-Western, pro-Globalist 'open borders' regime that has ruled most countries since WW2.

This week on NewsReal, Joe & Niall discuss why the Western media routinely compares these diverse new political leaders with US president Donald Trump. Live audio broadcast from 12-1:30pm EST / 6-7:30pm CET.

http://www.sott.net/article/392255-NewsReal-Economic-Nationalism-Spreads-as-Pakistan-Elects-Its-Trump

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Mon 07/30/18 10:11 AM
Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.


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Mon 07/30/18 10:54 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 07/30/18 10:54 AM

Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.


I was thinking that same thing, that most muslims aren't exactly opening arms to anyone not muslim...

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Mon 07/30/18 01:19 PM

Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

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Mon 07/30/18 01:22 PM


Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.


I was thinking that same thing, that most muslims aren't exactly opening arms to anyone not muslim...

I envy you so much ,you must be quite the traveler to have met most Muslims and asked them about their opinions ,that would take a life time of perseverance,i am speechless

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Mon 07/30/18 01:25 PM


Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

from the Sharia Law Institute of Islamabadsmokin

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Mon 07/30/18 01:28 PM



Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

from the Sharia Law Institute of Islamabadsmokin

That's quite intriguing can you enlighten me about it

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Mon 07/30/18 01:40 PM




Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

from the Sharia Law Institute of Islamabadsmokin

That's quite intriguing can you enlighten me about it

Well let me ask you a question. There are many versions of "Sharia" but tell me which if any version gives the same rights to women as men?
Sharia is a "religious" law and has no legitimate place in government.

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Mon 07/30/18 01:58 PM





Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

from the Sharia Law Institute of Islamabadsmokin

That's quite intriguing can you enlighten me about it

Well let me ask you a question. There are many versions of "Sharia" but tell me which if any version gives the same rights to women as men?
Sharia is a "religious" law and has no legitimate place in government.

Saying Sharia has many versions proves you are completely ignorant about it .Answering my question with another question proves that even further but I am gonna answer you any way
In sharia women and man are equal in rights and duties but in no place that it says that women and men are the same because god would be contradicting it self if he says that after creating them differently .

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Mon 07/30/18 02:06 PM






Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

from the Sharia Law Institute of Islamabadsmokin

That's quite intriguing can you enlighten me about it

Well let me ask you a question. There are many versions of "Sharia" but tell me which if any version gives the same rights to women as men?
Sharia is a "religious" law and has no legitimate place in government.

Saying Sharia has many versions proves you are completely ignorant about it .Answering my question with another question proves that even further but I am gonna answer you any way
In sharia women and man are equal in rights and duties but in no place that it says that women and men are the same because god would be contradicting it self if he says that after creating them differently .

There are many versions of Shariah and depending on the country it is interpreted and practiced differently.
According to Hudud and how testimony is given according to Islamic law, woman do not have equal rights as men.

As an example in rape or incest cases it takes the testimony of 3 men and 1 woman or in some cases 2 men and six women.
Almost a 3 to 1 disparity in how much a woman's testimony is valued as a mans.

So tell me in which country that predominately practices Shariah law that 1 woman's testimony can put a man in jail?

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Mon 07/30/18 02:30 PM



Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.


I was thinking that same thing, that most muslims aren't exactly opening arms to anyone not muslim...

I envy you so much ,you must be quite the traveler to have met most Muslims and asked them about their opinions ,that would take a life time of perseverance,i am speechless
well, so sorry you're so speechless, maybe you tell us all what the Christian and Jewish population of muslim dominated countries are? Why are churches and synagogues are being burned down in those same countries? Why is Saudi Arabia killing all the Yemen people right now? Why does Iran keep talking about "blowing Israel off the map"? Why is 95%of all terrorists groups muslim?

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Mon 07/30/18 02:34 PM
There are many versions of Shariah and depending on the country it is interpreted and practiced differently.
According to Hudud and how testimony is given according to Islamic law, woman do not have equal rights as men.

As an example in rape or incest cases it takes the testimony of 3 men and 1 woman or in some cases 2 men and six women.
Almost a 3 to 1 disparity in how much a woman's testimony is valued as a mans.

So tell me in which country that predominately practices Shariah law that 1 woman's testimony can put a man in jail?

Thank you for prooving yourself ignorant by sayin women testimony in hudud wich is not existent as a man's testimony not existence in birth and lineage where only women testify wich make testimony related not to gender but to the subject of testimony
By the way testimony is a duty not a right
Sir if you hate Islam hated as much you like to but if you wanna prove it wrong then at least be decent enough to state truths not lies and know that god in the Qur'an dare anybody to prove it wrong and for that you need to get in line behind the doctors,physicians,mathematician....
Good night

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Mon 07/30/18 02:35 PM






Seems like a very strange mix "socially conservative, economically 'leftist'".
Economically leftist...possible meaning socialist? Opposite of Trump.

Socially conservative...probably the last thing Pakistan needs. Their "conservative" values are not like ours..their conservative values include Sharia Law and condone violence against women.



Exuse my intrusion,good sir but I would like to ask where did you get you Sharia Law degree,just curious

from the Sharia Law Institute of Islamabadsmokin

That's quite intriguing can you enlighten me about it

Well let me ask you a question. There are many versions of "Sharia" but tell me which if any version gives the same rights to women as men?
Sharia is a "religious" law and has no legitimate place in government.

Saying Sharia has many versions proves you are completely ignorant about it .Answering my question with another question proves that even further but I am gonna answer you any way
In sharia women and man are equal in rights and duties but in no place that it says that women and men are the same because god would be contradicting it self if he says that after creating them differently .
why lie? Women can't even drive in Saudi Arabia...they stone women for getting raped... Why can't women wear what they want to wear? Why do they have to walk 5feet behind a man, and why can't they go outside alone? How many lashes with a switch do they get for breaking rules? 50? 100? What happens to a woman if she's caught wearing shorts? The list goes on...and on...

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Mon 07/30/18 02:41 PM
Good night? He left already? ... Maybe he'll straighten us out tommorow, red...

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Mon 07/30/18 02:42 PM
You are talking about some arab's country doctrine not sharia law and for the percetage does that include whit supremacist,fashis,pretend Christian wish not included in terroris and labeled as mental illness
Unlike you sir I make a difference between born Christian and real Christian ,Jews and real Jews,Muslims and real Muslims...
Being born and labeled as something doesn't me you are it
Thank you very much

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Mon 07/30/18 02:52 PM

You are talking about some arab's country doctrine not sharia law and for the percetage does that include whit supremacist,fashis,pretend Christian wish not included in terroris and labeled as mental illness
Unlike you sir I make a difference between born Christian and real Christian ,Jews and real Jews,Muslims and real Muslims...
Being born and labeled as something doesn't me you are it
Thank you very much
well, all that aside, you still haven't told us what's good about Sharia law...we know there's good and bad in every group, but what you're not realizing is that bad news travels way faster than good news...I know that there are great muslims out there, but we don't hear about them, we hear about 19 pissed off muslims that killed 3000 people, or a few that chop people's heads off for no reason, or the few that strap bombs on their azzes to kill hundreds in bus stations or nightclubs...

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Mon 07/30/18 03:11 PM
Edited by tombraider on Mon 07/30/18 03:22 PM

If what I've read is true about the Quran

Does the Quran not state that one can marry prepubescent girls,or that one can hit their wives or can have slaves..or that a women's testimony has only half the weight of a man's surely one can see where this will conflict with western laws..So do you think that if one who believes in Sharia law should be able to override the laws of the western world ..or should they be willing to assimilate..I mean after all the laws of OUR lands are quite different..

I mean if you take western law into consideration under our law these sort of things would be considered everything from pedophilia to assault to inequality..so how is that suppose to work out..So whose laws do you think should take precedence..just curious...Now all this of course is based on if a muslim who practiced sharia law were here in the U.S..

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Mon 07/30/18 03:21 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 07/30/18 03:25 PM

Naw, I've heard about great Muslims....

My fave: He was in the news a bit for it too:

http://westandwithlove.org/chobani-yogurt-a-muslim-immigrant-success-story-and-an-outspoken-immigrants-rights-activist/

...Or theres this, but you dont need other folks to come up with it for you. Its out there. Just have to look.flowerforyou
http://aboutislam.net/muslim-issues/america/10-inspiring-muslim-success-stories-2017/






Your right, he seems to be a great muslim...

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Mon 07/30/18 03:28 PM

So, mightymoe, is the point you're exploring here that the United States, Mexico, and Pakistan are, in some ways, becoming culturally similar?
not even close... I'm thinking the deep state might be changing their tatics, or maybe they lost their influence altogether...not sure which...

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Mon 07/30/18 03:29 PM



Truth is I'm not trying to start anything..I'm just curious to see what the line of thinking is here..and of course we know one does not speak for all ..and I am willing to reply accordingly..just curious like I said...I'm open to civil conversation and debate without disparaging remarks..smile2

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