Topic: The privilege of not understanding privilege
Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 02:28 PM
What is 10% of 0?

When people who have no problem getting to the steak house or cruise ship complain they don't have transportation to look for work, there is a serious problem. Nobody is buying that bs you are selling. Cut off the welfare and see how long it takes then to get a ride to the welfare office.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 02:49 PM

What is 10% of 0?

When people who have no problem getting to the steak house or cruise ship complain they don't have transportation to look for work, there is a serious problem. Nobody is buying that bs you are selling. Cut off the welfare and see how long it takes then to get a ride to the welfare office.


this is the 21st century, there are few wanted posters in windows, people dont drive around to look.

they go online, they search for jobs IN THEIR AREA , that MATCH THEIR SKILLS AND EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND, and PAY A DECENT WAGE, that they ahve the transportation to get to REGULARLY AND CONSISTENTLY

that is much different than finding the occasional ride to an appointment (welfare or otherwise) or traveling with others for a meal or to a vacation.

Im not selling BS. Im posting reality and logic.

try comparing apples to apples and it might be more understandable.

If those jobs only required them to show up as often as the welfare office or a three day trip in a year, Im sure they would have no problem showing up for them either. but thats not the reality of it.

Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:08 PM




Everyone living in America is privileged and even the poor which will always be amongst us. Living on the government when you can work for your living Is looking for a handout. If you're not Disabled no one owes you anything.

Those that are poor are privileged , that they can get Assistance here.

American has helped other Countries in proverty at to times.

Live in a proverty stricken Country and you'll see how Privileged we are in USA.







i totally agree. But the point is not about looking at how much worse other countries have it, that can be done about ANY TOPIC people complain about.

The point is only to combat the animosity WITHIN our own country that so many are holding that success and/or need are all and only about character and 'merit' and 'earning' it. when there are so many other factors of privilege that weigh in.



I m sure this is another thread of many about people needed ASSISTANCE!!!

Point is US has many people that think government owes them something.

Nada....No. It doesn't other than make wise decisions for economy and protection of USA

People need to work for a living and earn their own living. Stop looking for government to kick In and support their desires as well as their needs.




yes. The day was one where I was fed up of other thread where there were constant interjections and examples of people in need talking about them like scum.

Point is the government IS Of they people, BY the people and FOR the people.

so yes, in so far as it represents people, it owes people to be represented.


People do need to pay for their life. many dont do it by 'earning' a living many do it through inheritance, others do it through good fortune, others do it through marital common property laws. Life is both need and desire, and there really is no way to seperate it into one OR the other. There is only the skill of balancing them both in a reasonable manner.

People by and large try to support their needs and desires, but when they hit hard times, they look to the government that has been looking to them, and the government in turn provides the nest egg for them that they provide to others in their lifetime. its a circle of community and general welfare for all those represented in the community.

Jobs dont grow on trees, it is a highly competitive job market, things like having specific skills education and proximity and transportation all factor in to how long or how difficult finding a job can be. and people in the interim try to stay above board until they can find that job.

yes, people feel 'entitled' to things regardless of financial class. But when the merits of the 'entitlement' are framed in assumptions about inferior character or value for the poor and a necessary and reasonable expectation of the elite or well off, it becomes dangerously disenfranchising and harmful.






I don't think people are scum just because they are Poor. There is always going to be poor people in the World. I Know poor people who are respectable and good people. Some people work but make little money.
Iam far from wealthy but I worked for years and years !!!

Your character is what makes you Scum. Like lazy people who don't seek Work! Yet don't have any disability. They have children , cannot support them and the dad's a dead beat. These are bad Choices. Then they want to talk about all the people that have money. How do they even know how people aquired their money.

I m not talking about the polititians and officials in government. Like Obama and others. laugh

Just because a woman has children is no reason not to work! I workked with many women that was raising a family.

Criminals are no assest to society and hurt innocent people. They murder, and committ all sorts of unspeakable crimes. I think the are Scum.


People come to US with children and expect US to pay for their wellfare!

Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:12 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 08/10/18 03:14 PM
If jobs did grow are trees, lazy people would still be lined up for government assistance.

Don't blame Trump, he's cutting food stamps/Link and some other programs.
Unfortunately many people will be cut off. But they didn't ABUSE the system for years like some.

Bad apples spoil the bushel!!!

Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:21 PM
It's one excuse after the other to sit on welfare. The only option is to cut welfare. Its sad the people who truly need it won't be able to get it. This is what welfare breeding has caused.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:23 PM

It's one excuse after the other to sit on welfare. The only option is to cut welfare. Its sad the people who truly need it won't be able to get it. This is what welfare breeding has caused.


or what a growing bougeise vocal minority have.

no photo
Fri 08/10/18 03:44 PM
It wasn't so long ago, that people gained a bunch of weight, so they could get on disability. A couple of attorney's in my town specialized in that. To me, that's just plain lazy. Some will do just about anything to not work.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:07 PM

It wasn't so long ago, that people gained a bunch of weight, so they could get on disability. A couple of attorney's in my town specialized in that. To me, that's just plain lazy. Some will do just about anything to not work.


yes. totally. that cant be too common though, risking one's life for laziness sake.




Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:14 PM
Minorities don't seem to have a problem getting to a protest or a shoe store after a natural disaster

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:17 PM

Minorities don't seem to have a problem getting to a protest or a shoe store after a natural disaster


you know what, some minorities dont

just like some whites dont ... AND?



Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:19 PM
They don't? You don't have time for that crap when you have a job.

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:23 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 08/10/18 04:24 PM

They don't? You don't have time for that crap when you have a job.


Well, working people have been making time for things that are important to them forever. They make time to spend with family. they make time to vacation. They make time to go out to a meal. They make time to do lots of things depending upon how narrow or broad their existence is. Some only care about money and immediate family. others care about those things as well as other issues in the world.

had they not, we may not have seen an end to jim crow, or segregation, or the substandard status of women, but people thought it was important enough 'crap' to make time taking a stand and protesting about.

so...


to each their own 'crap'.

Easttowest72's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:34 PM
Trump is cutting welfare so it's not worth arguing about. People can make all the excuses they want not to work. They can sit and starve.....or go on a cruise.

BlakeIAM's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:42 PM
A lot of these threads seem like emotional rhetoric.

It reminds of the people who cry (literally) over trees being cut down and at the same time they don't care about a baby being cut down (murder, I mean abortion...).

Total utter HYPOCRISY .
Spare me your "concern" and crocodile tears.

* The use of "your" in my post is not directed at anyone directly.


Narlycarnk's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:42 PM
People get uneasy talking about privilege, because no one knows how best to solve the problem, or what will be decided.

People also get uneasy talking about overpopulation for the same reason. They would rather let an inadvertent outcome happen rather than talk about it.

I think voting priveledge should be to those who are most important to society, including both the hardworking poor person who is a selfless asset, and the securely planning rich person who makes everyone around him have more privilege.

I think operator priveledge should go to those with the most technical capacity.

Hassouni's photo
Fri 08/10/18 04:46 PM
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Sat 08/11/18 07:00 AM

Minorities don't seem to have a problem getting to a protest or a shoe store after a natural disaster
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Lol.. true.. or looting their neighborhood stores during a riot. And as the t.v. footage shows, it is people of ALL ages walking out with stuff... whatever their arms will hold.

And when can't buy a loaf of bread ( because they brunt the food store down) they cry neglect!!

Gotta love it.

no photo
Sat 08/11/18 08:31 AM
Seeing children in harms way is terrible, it is heart wrenching and it should never be and people should do all can to assist that child.

But I have to question the people who bring a child into the world knowing those circumstances are in store for the child. Do they not put that child in harms way.. from day one?

They are not responsible for their actions as everyone everyone else?


And many times, we the public are left picking up the pieces for their life choices.

Again, I love children.. all children I would never hold them responsible for what others did. But at some point you have to turn to the source and they need to be held responsible.

Easttowest72's photo
Sat 08/11/18 08:39 AM


It sounds like the guy is jealous of his rich friend and wants to make light of his accomplishments. My ex came from well off parents. When he lived at home as an adult, he didn't have to pay any bills or buy groceries. But from the moment he moved out, any help from parents stopped. He earned everything he has. You would expect parents with their amount of wealth to buy a nice house warming gift or help with a down payment on a home but they didn't. He got a zero $ down home loan and bought used furniture.
So how would the guy know who is paying for everything his friend has? Or is it something like he was given a free education so none of his accomplishments should count as merit.


Sounds like you dont see the value of growing up with proper nutrition v. hunger, sleeping in safety v sleeping with a knife under your pillow, as well as going to school ready to learn because of those things v ready to sleep in the classroom because you couldnt do so at home and panicking when its time to go home Friday afternoon, knowing you wont eat again until Monday.



My dad had his 1st heart attack when I was 6 years old. He was our only source of income. We ate beans everyday that my mother had stored from our garden. He died when I was 11.

I have a lot of military in the family. I know what it's like to be scared. People with pstd can be completely out of control trying to kill you.

When I was in my 20's and working 7 days a week. I had people tell me I should quit and go on welfare because I could get everything I was working for free. That's not who I am.

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Sat 08/11/18 09:05 AM
I don't know.. maybe I was just raised differently.. but I don't think so

My Dad came home from work one day and dropped dead of a massive heart attack , he was 35. My Mom ( at the ripe old age of 34) was left to raise all 8 kids. which she did.

No food stamps.. no welfare. she would not hear of it. She went to work, my sisters cleaned the house and made dinners, me and my brothers worked after school... all monies went to Mom

We had food, sometimes not much.. many nights it was pancakes for dinner. no breakfast.. but school lunch. Our house was clean, our clothes were clean and we were clean. and we went to school... and we had better bring home good grades.

At times, (And my ear still feels the sting) we would complain. That was met immediately with a few firm slaps to the side of the head. and the words. WE HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!!!.. NOBODY OWES US ANYTHING!!!

And she was right, and we were not the only ones in that kind of a situation.. not by a long shot. But we were taught to work.. and not to expect.. we were taught to do for ourselves.