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Topic: TO BE RID OF A PRESIDENT....
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Wed 03/20/19 06:33 PM



One word... PROOF..But by all means at least we see that they're consistent..consistently WRONG..WHERE'S THAT TRUMP RUSSIAN COLLUSION..where's any of it..speculation..maybes..could have.. might have.. looks like..When you all get an indictment then ya got something..until then ya haven't proven a dang thing..
you're just being strung along by the mockingbird media..again..DUPED

And Ms.H .Even when entering heaven one must pass through a gate..properly..otherwise YOU DON'T GET IN..spock whatta ya know ..morals..and if ta think a country isn't like a house then try living in your house without any walls..I guess you could always fly a drone and call the cops when someone comes and sits down on your couch and you have to provide them with services ..and you have them fill out paper work to see of they can sit down on your couch..but while they wait for the paper work to be processed ..which could take years ..they sit on your couch and you provide services..sounds like a plan...noway



HERE COMES THE PAIN



As said before, private ownership of a building, and maintaining public AND private ownership of MILES of land with varying terrains, To believe maintaining a property for private use is equal to maintaining a border is like believing hospitals simply need first aid kits because that all the family home has.

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Wed 03/20/19 06:33 PM



They never had proof to open the investigation..they lied to the FISA courts to start one..it's not legit..therefore it's illegal which means this isn't justice it's injustice..SOoo how does one get in trouble..for what.."obstructing injustice"..WHERE'S THE RUSSIAN COLLUSION.. and that Smollett story..how many people fell for that..or the Sayoc story..and when I tell you all that you are being brainwashed by the mockingbird media you deny it..no problem..then how can one say that Trumps words are responsible for what happened in New Zealand..Could one possible think that as many times as they throw Trump hate speech out on the MSM that it's not influencing people as well..of course not.. it's just when Trump talks..LOL..But calling Trump a racist.. a Nazi.. Hitler ..that influences no one..really?..spock



HERE COMES THE PAIN


huh?

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Wed 03/20/19 07:08 PM
Edited by hardBNhard on Wed 03/20/19 07:13 PM




They never had proof to open the investigation..they lied to the FISA courts to start one..it's not legit..therefore it's illegal which means this isn't justice it's injustice..SOoo how does one get in trouble..for what.."obstructing injustice"..WHERE'S THE RUSSIAN COLLUSION.. and that Smollett story..how many people fell for that..or the Sayoc story..and when I tell you all that you are being brainwashed by the mockingbird media you deny it..no problem..then how can one say that Trumps words are responsible for what happened in New Zealand..Could one possible think that as many times as they throw Trump hate speech out on the MSM that it's not influencing people as well..of course not.. it's just when Trump talks..LOL..But calling Trump a racist.. a Nazi.. Hitler ..that influences no one..really?..spock



HERE COMES THE PAIN


huh?

Its called deflection Ms.H rofl When they dont have a logical answer they use "DEFLECTION" .
Straight out of dingbat donalds handbook .... lie , cheat , deny , deflect ! laugh
Like what the heck does smollet have to do with this convo and who cares ?
"DEFLECTION" ! rofl offtopic
WITH A LIAR &CHIEF FOR POTUS LIKE IDIOT TRUMP YOU WANT TO CALL THE DEMS CORRUPT ?
NOW THERES THE JOKE OF THE DAY laugh

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Wed 03/20/19 07:08 PM

I am quite sure I know the difference between a country and a house..seriously..noway

What a family home has is walls and an entry point/door which requires those who wish to gain entry..have to show respect and knock and be asked to come in before entering..The Country is the people's house..and it too has an entry point and should be entered properly..Now one can clearly see how ridiculous it would be to live in a house with no walls..But let's say you did live in a house of no walls just two doors..what would you do when people come clammering into your house..I know..provide them with services..spock

But throwing up drones and catch and release is a band aid being used when a tourniquet is required..BUILD THE WALL and DEPORT those who are here ILLEGALY..


Debate while ya can people..because the PAIN IS COMING and just like the FAKE Russian Collusion story..this too will not end well for the Dems..time to start filling up hotel Gitmo


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Wed 03/20/19 07:16 PM
The only fake here is ALL YOUR THEORY'S laugh
THE PAIN(in the azz) IS HERE AND ITS NAME IS DINGBAT DONALD

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Wed 03/20/19 07:20 PM

I'll go ahead and post this even though there are many contradictions to it. Not sure that I believe it. This doesn’t jibe at all with the other poll mentioned here that says 62% think the release of Mueller’s report is important!

Poll: half of Americans see Trump victim of witch hunt

"Washington (AFP) - Half of Americans believe President Donald Trump is the victim of a political "witch hunt," nearly two years after the launch of the Russia meddling investigation, a new poll showed Monday".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/



100% of Americans have no idea what's in the report but 50% think they do.

One contradiction,

Poll Shows Half of Americans Support Impeachment Against Trump

"61 percent believe president broke law with 2016 hush payments to women "

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/half-of-americans-support-impeachment-process-against-trump

An even larger contradiction.

Or so far it exposed the following:

1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreement by lying to them).

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide, and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February 2018 he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statement charge and one conspiracy charge.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who are currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August 2018, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

37) Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story.

Finally, there is one other person Mueller initially investigated but handed over to others in the Justice Department to charge: Sam Patten. This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.




What I am more concerned with is not whether Trump conspired with Russia before the election I want to know if he has been conspiring with them since his inauguration. All the other stuff: violation of the emolument clause, obstruction of justice, threatening violence, violation of his oath of office, violation of Article I of the Constitution, not to mention the total lack of transparency.......of all these he is guilty. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been living in a bubble, devoid of anything from the outside world.


Instead of railing about it to a dead guy--why doesn't the sitting president talk to us--the living-- and tell us (the living) why all the lies about Russian meetings, all the walk backs, the 3 and 4 differing versions of events? The truth just isn't that hard, you guys? Why all the subterfuge? You act like we just don't have a clue. 8,000 lies or not, we the common sensed middle want answers. We are ready to vote.


Everyone in Trump's orbit is either in prison or will be soon. Also, the evidence is still classified, because it's an on-going investigation. You don't reveal your evidence until it's over. Republican-traitors can claim there's no evidence all they want, but that is not the FACTS.




All this and the rabbit hole hunters cant see the writting on the wall ! SMH
TREASONIST TRUMP SHOULD HANG rofl

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Wed 03/20/19 07:27 PM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 03/20/19 07:37 PM


No DEFLECTION needed..I have an answer if that's what you all want ..of course you won't like it..and I've said it before you are being DUPED..You would have thought you would have gotten it when you saw that the Russian Collusion was a hoax( u missed that) created by a BUNCH of BUTT HURT corrupt Dems who RIGGED the election spent over a billion dollars..were the REAL RUSSIAN COLLUDERS and TRAITORS who destroyed email evidence..and still LOST..LOL..and let's face it there are still the brain washed masses who can't get over the fact that their TRAITOR Hillary.. LOST..you can't write this stuff..


HERE COMES THE PAIN


Yall serving another nothing burger w/cheese..how many so far..so many I've lost count..


If one was to follow Q they might have a better understanding of why Trump says what he does or misspells words..but ya don't follow Q..but that's o.k ..this is more amusing...WHERE IS THAT TRUMP RUSSIAN COLLUSION..two years and they didn't even get that right..LOL..what else do you think they'll get WRONG..lol..spock

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Wed 03/20/19 07:34 PM


I'll go ahead and post this even though there are many contradictions to it. Not sure that I believe it. This doesn’t jibe at all with the other poll mentioned here that says 62% think the release of Mueller’s report is important!

Poll: half of Americans see Trump victim of witch hunt

"Washington (AFP) - Half of Americans believe President Donald Trump is the victim of a political "witch hunt," nearly two years after the launch of the Russia meddling investigation, a new poll showed Monday".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/



100% of Americans have no idea what's in the report but 50% think they do.

One contradiction,

Poll Shows Half of Americans Support Impeachment Against Trump

"61 percent believe president broke law with 2016 hush payments to women "

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/half-of-americans-support-impeachment-process-against-trump

An even larger contradiction.

Or so far it exposed the following:

1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreement by lying to them).

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide, and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February 2018 he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statement charge and one conspiracy charge.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who are currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August 2018, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

37) Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story.

Finally, there is one other person Mueller initially investigated but handed over to others in the Justice Department to charge: Sam Patten. This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.




What I am more concerned with is not whether Trump conspired with Russia before the election I want to know if he has been conspiring with them since his inauguration. All the other stuff: violation of the emolument clause, obstruction of justice, threatening violence, violation of his oath of office, violation of Article I of the Constitution, not to mention the total lack of transparency.......of all these he is guilty. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been living in a bubble, devoid of anything from the outside world.


Instead of railing about it to a dead guy--why doesn't the sitting president talk to us--the living-- and tell us (the living) why all the lies about Russian meetings, all the walk backs, the 3 and 4 differing versions of events? The truth just isn't that hard, you guys? Why all the subterfuge? You act like we just don't have a clue. 8,000 lies or not, we the common sensed middle want answers. We are ready to vote.


Everyone in Trump's orbit is either in prison or will be soon. Also, the evidence is still classified, because it's an on-going investigation. You don't reveal your evidence until it's over. Republican-traitors can claim there's no evidence all they want, but that is not the FACTS.




All this and the rabbit hole hunters cant see the writting on the wall ! SMH
TREASONIST TRUMP SHOULD HANG rofl

Gitmo is to good for dingbat donald

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Wed 03/20/19 07:45 PM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 03/20/19 07:46 PM


Polls? we're back to polls again..What did the polls say about the presidential election..LOL..spock


YEP.. long list ya got there..WHERE'S THE TRUMP RUSSIAN COLLUSION..spock


NOW why don't ya print all those traitors and real Russian colluders who have been fired or resigned in the justice depts. or all those around CROOKED Hillary or Fraud Obama that SHOULD be going to jail..and hopefully will be..because there are LOTS..and


HERE COMES THE PAIN
.Q

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Wed 03/20/19 07:52 PM
Edited by hardBNhard on Wed 03/20/19 07:56 PM
Again with the DEFLECTION without any proof to brainless chatter !
All i see is everyone close to dingbat donald either going to jail or on there way !
What do you have other then bombastic theories ? rofl

THE PAIN(in the arse) IS HERE AND ITS NAME IS DINGBAT DONALD TRAMP
K

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Wed 03/20/19 08:02 PM
Edited by tombraider on Wed 03/20/19 08:16 PM


The only reason that is ..is because the justice dept and Obama were CORRUPT..so Hillary was NEVER legitimately investigated..BUT she's fixin' to be..and then we'll get the real WITCH and hopefully all her evil minions..

You're somewhat right.. he's a pain in the arse.... to all those corrupt Deep State pedophiles, traitors and Globalists..If it wasn't for trump your borders would be wide open..and guess who would be paying for it..all of us and our families in one way or another..


WWG1 WGA


Two years of brainless Trump Russian Collusion chatter that was nothing more than one BIG FAT JUICY...NOTHING BURGER...rofl


what do you have other than mockingbird media poo?

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Wed 03/20/19 08:38 PM

Even when entering heaven one must pass through a gate..properly..otherwise YOU DON'T GET IN..spock whatta ya know ..morals..and if ta think a country isn't like a house then try living in your house without any walls..I guess you could always fly a drone and call the cops when someone comes and sits down on your couch and you have to provide them with services ..and you have them fill out paper work to see of they can sit down on your couch..but while they wait for the paper work to be processed ..which could take years ..they sit on your couch and you provide services..sounds like a plan...



i say let those who want illegals, take off your doors and open up your house as suggested above.

hardBNhard's photo
Wed 03/20/19 08:50 PM
And once again(x2) DEFLECTION DEFLECTION DEFLECTION whoa

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Wed 03/27/19 04:50 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Wed 03/27/19 04:50 PM

Yahoo News explains: Removing a president under the 25th Amendment

In case you ever wanted to know,

This week a bombshell anonymous New York Times op-ed written by a “senior official in the Trump administration” claimed to be part of the “resistance” working within the Trump White House. One excerpt: “Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president.”


http://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/yahoo-news-explains-removing-president-25th-amendment-222621946.html


Not going to happen. !!

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/27/19 06:56 PM
Best way to get a POTUS out is vote for someone else. Lets hope USA is woke in 2020. drinker drinker

Seakolony's photo
Wed 03/27/19 07:05 PM
Looks like that's not gonna happen

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/27/19 07:28 PM

Looks like that's not gonna happen



i will always say, just like in 2016. there is no predictor. Even the wildest of possibilities is still a possibility. I truly never could have thought we would elect a reality star with NO civic experience whatsoever and that behavior, and that offensive MOUTH and the pompous dumb childish things that come from it. I can never under or overestimate the country that once could justify making women and minorities second class.

I guess it is still hard to predict what people might justify and fight for.

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Wed 03/27/19 08:15 PM


Looks like that's not gonna happen



i will always say, just like in 2016. there is no predictor. Even the wildest of possibilities is still a possibility. I truly never could have thought we would elect a reality star with NO civic experience whatsoever and that behavior, and that offensive MOUTH and the pompous dumb childish things that come from it. I can never under or overestimate the country that once could justify making women and minorities second class.

I guess it is still hard to predict what people might justify and fight for.



Even if they moved to file charges of impeachment....congressional hearing would take so long to even move to impeach that the 2020 vote would already have been established and too late for the term limit. Still would allow for a new Presidential run. Honestly at this point it's just a waste of taxpayer money and time.

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Wed 03/27/19 08:24 PM



Looks like that's not gonna happen



i will always say, just like in 2016. there is no predictor. Even the wildest of possibilities is still a possibility. I truly never could have thought we would elect a reality star with NO civic experience whatsoever and that behavior, and that offensive MOUTH and the pompous dumb childish things that come from it. I can never under or overestimate the country that once could justify making women and minorities second class.

I guess it is still hard to predict what people might justify and fight for.



Even if they moved to file charges of impeachment....congressional hearing would take so long to even move to impeach that the 2020 vote would already have been established and too late for the term limit. Still would allow for a new Presidential run. Honestly at this point it's just a waste of taxpayer money and time.


Taking the example of Bill Clinton, it could be a year of investigating and as little as three months for impeachment. I think the investigation portion is being well under way. We would still have the time for impeachment, but for other reasons, I don't see it happening either. But one never knows. I do hope #45 is held accountable for something once he leaves office though. I hate to think that money really can buy people a blank check for wrongdoing.




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Wed 03/27/19 11:14 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Wed 03/27/19 11:26 PM
oops oops

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