Topic: The huge Amazon rainforest fires
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Sun 08/25/19 09:49 AM
I wouldn't say America, he was voted in by the people, all the rubbish about outside messing is just bad apples by the lossers.
basically Germany is in the chit, uprising of the far right and a bullish attitude to others.

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Sun 08/25/19 10:01 AM
Being voted in doesn't mean it was/is the right choice. Much depends on the campaign BS and promises made, and the vibe and happenings in a country at the time of election.
I think Trump won a lot of votes based on his immigration plans.

Over here much of the election outcome has to do with the fact that a big portion of people who actively vote are Christians and of course they vote for Christian parties, often the biggest one that our current PM is part of. Many Christians have obsolete beliefs and views, which is fine if that makes them happy. Unfortunately not always the best for a country.
Our PM is currently making a feathered nest in the EU/Brussels so he's well off after his days as PM, meaning he has a huge brown ring on his face too.
From what I gather this is more important to him than properly running our country.

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Sun 08/25/19 10:07 AM
Oh, it's the same here, just look at Blair, the labour leader who took us into a false war in Iraq. he's meant to be in charge of middle eastern affairs, yep, that's going well laugh and getting millions for it typical left. do as I say, not as I do!
I think you're better off with a christian government than a Muslim one, just saying smokin

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Mon 08/26/19 05:39 AM
Edited by Duttoneer on Mon 08/26/19 05:40 AM

Whose going to look after all these Amazon women when the fires are out?



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Mon 08/26/19 05:48 AM
Looks like she can take care of herself dutton laugh

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Mon 08/26/19 09:17 AM
Just checked up on the current events... Not good.
Even though Brazilian military planes are now also dumping water.
The guy from the SuperTanker company says that even what they dump (72.000 liters per go) barely has effect as this is a different fire.
"We are significantly outmatched and undergunned and just able to hang on with our fingernails to help them."

I'd so hoped they'd be getting somewhere by now...



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Mon 08/26/19 09:25 AM
That's not good. Some of the fires look like ground fires similar to those we had in the peat up north!

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Mon 08/26/19 09:31 AM

That's not good. Some of the fires look like ground fires similar to those we had in the peat up north!

No, it's not at all good :(

And peat fires can be pretty devastating! We got quite the area with peat in the north east. If that was to catch fire.... pffff... It continues all the way into Germany.
Not a densely populated area, and not a danger on global level, but still...

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Mon 08/26/19 09:33 AM
Humans are destroying the earth, ocean pollution, Forest fires, polluted lakes and streams, building into areas where animals are crowded out of their habitat ( cougar sightings in urban neighborhoods now common) just sad

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Mon 08/26/19 09:36 AM
Well the g7 conference have pledged $20 million.
Israel have sent water aircraft.
90%of fires have been man made.
If you see the pictures much of the land has already been logged (tree's cut)
Brazil says it's being treated like a colony.

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Mon 08/26/19 10:17 AM
Nice that Israel is helping out! And $20 mill ain't much but better than nothing. I hope they will cough up more as considering the cost of it all I do think it's fair to not let Brazil bear the brunt of that. After all it IS an international, global matter, so help and cost should also be carried internationally, not just the G7 either.

I read Borso-something said Brazil is being treated as a colony. One could debate that, the way I see it: tough chit!
If he wants responsibility for the Amazon then he should've taken that, he didn't.
It's not an just internal Brazilian affair, no matter how much he'd love that. Something on this scale affects the entire world and our existence which as far as I'm concerned overrules his argument.
Things would be very easy if I got a say in the matter, hahaha.

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Mon 08/26/19 11:33 AM
laugh problem, we are telling them they can't cut down tree's (how many have we in Europe and America cut down) which they need for progress yet we are sorted really.

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Mon 08/26/19 12:40 PM
We have, when we were none the wiser yet. For years now we have been replanting trees.
We also have this, among others:

Pan-European strategy
As a networking programme, EUFORGEN has already played a key role in developing a joint conservation strategy for European countries, as well as helping in implementation, monitoring progress and identifying gaps in conservation of forest genetic resources.

Ireland, France, Norway, England have/are replanting loads of trees on former farmland.
Over here the biggest DIY stores sell close to 100% wood from sustainable forests. I believe they started doing so in the 90s as I remember this being in the news at the time.
I'm not saying we are there yet, nor that we are picture perfect, but we are taking responsibility and doing a lot to restore things while still maintaining our level of society.

From what I gather, the work of -like- EUFORGEN is vital, as you apparently cannot simply plant as many trees as you can everywhere. This was done in Ireland and Iceland and they ended up destroying the ecologic balance.
What this dude said in this article I read, it's about restoration of natural ecosystems, which is a helluva lot more than just planting trees.
You need the right type of trees in different areas, the right mixture and whatnot.

I'm glad I'm not a biologist, hahaha.
I do find it very interesting though, and goes to show that it's even MORE important to save what we can from the rainforest as that ecosystem is so danged unique we as humans cannot ever restore that. Would take hundreds of years.
They are still discovering new species there each week I believe. So how could we restore it with what we know if we don't even know all the species?
I think that's what makes that forest so important and different from any other forest we got.

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Mon 08/26/19 12:58 PM
It is a shame crystal, it's like you buying a car. then we discover it pollutes, you keep it and drive around but your neighbours can't buy one because we are wiser now!
Make any sense?
They still have a country to feed.

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Tue 08/27/19 06:28 AM
Edited by Godsfriend10 on Tue 08/27/19 06:31 AM

It is a shame crystal, it's like you buying a car. then we discover it pollutes, you keep it and drive around but your neighbours can't buy one because we are wiser now!
Make any sense?
They still have a country to feed.

Citizens of developing economies are much concerned about were their next meal will come from rather than any long term environmental benefits of conservation which they cant readily relate to .

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Tue 08/27/19 07:12 AM
Good afternoon godsfriend, exactly. weather it's right or wrong it's easy for us to tell them what to do as we have everything
I don't see the same uproar in columbia where the cocaine is produced, couldn't have that failing, what would the west do laugh

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Tue 08/27/19 08:25 AM


It is a shame crystal, it's like you buying a car. then we discover it pollutes, you keep it and drive around but your neighbours can't buy one because we are wiser now!
Make any sense?
They still have a country to feed.

Citizens of developing economies are much concerned about were their next meal will come from rather than any long term environmental benefits of conservation which they cant readily relate to .

Don't quite agree with that, certainly not in this case. I mean, look at the number of Brazilians who took to the streets to protest and demand something got done about it by government. Thousands of them! Even indigenous people took part in it.

We need that to happen more often as it's at government level that the chitloads of money that the west pumps into such countries to help gets stuck.

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Tue 08/27/19 08:26 AM

Good afternoon godsfriend, exactly. weather it's right or wrong it's easy for us to tell them what to do as we have everything
I don't see the same uproar in columbia where the cocaine is produced, couldn't have that failing, what would the west do laugh

Cocaine is quite different. That can kill people, make a load of people rich, but it won't ruin the planet or make it uninhabitable.
It's kind of like comparing a paper tissue and an apple ohwell

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Tue 08/27/19 09:18 AM
whoa
They still burn down tree's to grow it crystal spock

My point was, nothing is done about.
If you take that tone of voice with me I won't talk to you again laugh

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Tue 08/27/19 09:21 AM



It is a shame crystal, it's like you buying a car. then we discover it pollutes, you keep it and drive around but your neighbours can't buy one because we are wiser now!
Make any sense?
They still have a country to feed.

Citizens of developing economies are much concerned about were their next meal will come from rather than any long term environmental benefits of conservation which they cant readily relate to .

Don't quite agree with that, certainly not in this case. I mean, look at the number of Brazilians who took to the streets to protest and demand something got done about it by government. Thousands of them! Even indigenous people took part in it.

We need that to happen more often as it's at government level that the chitloads of money that the west pumps into such countries to help gets stuck.


Be under no illusion, Brazil will make chit loads of cash from this

The news said earlier that the fires were coordinated on fb slaphead