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Topic: New Virus in UK ...
mysticalview21's photo
Mon 12/21/20 07:44 AM
let me just rant here ... I am so freaking angry mainly that we have a new Virus to deal with which the first was not enough ... close the flights to UK
and or least track and more track people on these planes in the US every where they go ... same for UK ... and if you could get them locked down ASAP maybe it will not be as huge now as spectated ... if you do something now ... Now becouse that was the worse thing about the virus19 ... an US just wanted it to kill everyone on trumps watch ... put on restriction on commutes... being all transportation out of state or country ... and track those people ... lets try to get a heads UP before the fall ... TCBS



https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-supercharged-mutant-coronavirus-expected-130447381.html



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/20/england-new-covid-restrictions-likely-to-stay-for-months-until-vaccine-rollout


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/20/european-states-ban-flights-and-ferries-from-uk-to-combat-new-covid-strain

Laska Paul 's photo
Mon 12/21/20 07:55 AM
I was Just going to Post this One . You did a Better Job by Posting this . Yes Its Correct A New Virus Faster than the Original One .

Larsi666 😽's photo
Mon 12/21/20 08:03 AM
Ireland banned all flights and ferries from the UK for initial 48 hours. But I suppose, it is already here, I reckon sad2

And last night, 10 people arrived from the UK in Hannover/Germany, new strain of the virus was confirmed this morning sad2

delightfulillusion's photo
Mon 12/21/20 08:17 AM
It’s not just found in the UK.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-strain-found-in-denmark-netherlands-and-australia-says-who-12169262

And yes, most of UK is once again in lockdown.



blah..blah..'s photo
Mon 12/21/20 09:30 AM
The new strain, wasn't developed in the UK, it was developed in another European country without the scientific advances we have here, it was undetected apparently and has mutated pretty quickly.

However, there's no proof that it's any deadlier or more harmful, just that it spreads quicker, but once the Government get their act together and make their minds up how they're going to deal with it, we can start looking forward again!

Larsi666 😽's photo
Mon 12/21/20 09:37 AM
The fact that it spreads faster, makes it more harmful. The number of new cases will apparently be much higher than the number of people recovering from the virus.

And Ireland is in a dangerous position again, because many Irish either work in the UK or have relations over there ohwell

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Mon 12/21/20 12:29 PM
Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .

blah..blah..'s photo
Mon 12/21/20 12:34 PM

Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .

Correct, it's no "worse" than the previous strains just that it transmits quicker than previous strains, It's no different to other 'Coronaviruses' in that it can mutate.
As long as it's kept relatively under control it's no more harmful than the previous strains.

Besides, no one can leave the Island much anyway now, so unlikely it will spread to Ireland or other EU countries very fast.

Larsi666 😽's photo
Mon 12/21/20 12:55 PM


Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .

Correct, it's no "worse" than the previous strains just that it transmits quicker than previous strains, It's no different to other 'Coronaviruses' in that it can mutate.
As long as it's kept relatively under control it's no more harmful than the previous strains.

Besides, no one can leave the Island much anyway now, so unlikely it will spread to Ireland or other EU countries very fast.


In regards to Ireland, the new strain was discovered two or three days before the Irish government decided on the 48 hour travel ban. I don't to act as a Grim Reaper, but in those 2 or 3 days, there was frequent travel, especially on Sunday. Apparently mental scenes at airports and ferry ports.

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Mon 12/21/20 02:10 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Mon 12/21/20 02:14 PM


Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .

Correct, it's no "worse" than the previous strains just that it transmits quicker than previous strains, It's no different to other 'Coronaviruses' in that it can mutate.
As long as it's kept relatively under control it's no more harmful than the previous strains.

Besides, no one can leave the Island much anyway now, so unlikely it will spread to Ireland or other EU countries very fast.
whether it is more lethal or harmful as not yet been determined . Scientists are still collecting data . The concern is that the mutated virus has managed to spread despite lockdowns (partial or otherwise) and the impact of higher transmission rates on health services .. especially during winter . waving

The other concern is whether the new vaccines will be effective against the protein spike changes .

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Mon 12/21/20 02:18 PM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Mon 12/21/20 02:19 PM
Oh, wouldn't it be neat if covid and its strains were just a trial run for a species culling effort in the future?

You know, take covid with its high transmission rate and plug something deadlier into it then set it loose on the world.

How else are ya gunna drop world population by 5 billion in a relatively short time?

blah..blah..'s photo
Tue 12/22/20 03:49 AM



Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .

Correct, it's no "worse" than the previous strains just that it transmits quicker than previous strains, It's no different to other 'Coronaviruses' in that it can mutate.
As long as it's kept relatively under control it's no more harmful than the previous strains.

Besides, no one can leave the Island much anyway now, so unlikely it will spread to Ireland or other EU countries very fast.
whether it is more lethal or harmful as not yet been determined . Scientists are still collecting data . The concern is that the mutated virus has managed to spread despite lockdowns (partial or otherwise) and the impact of higher transmission rates on health services .. especially during winter . waving

The other concern is whether the new vaccines will be effective against the protein spike changes .

"Despite lockdowns"
That's the thing, I can't speak for other countries but the lockdown restrictions in England and probably for the rest of the UK have been farcical, confusing and chaotic, so much so that many people are just ignoring it and doing their own thing, selfish, yes, but no clear leadership from Boris and his cronies it was always going to be the case

blah..blah..'s photo
Tue 12/22/20 03:51 AM



Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .

Correct, it's no "worse" than the previous strains just that it transmits quicker than previous strains, It's no different to other 'Coronaviruses' in that it can mutate.
As long as it's kept relatively under control it's no more harmful than the previous strains.

Besides, no one can leave the Island much anyway now, so unlikely it will spread to Ireland or other EU countries very fast.
whether it is more lethal or harmful as not yet been determined . Scientists are still collecting data . The concern is that the mutated virus has managed to spread despite lockdowns (partial or otherwise) and the impact of higher transmission rates on health services .. especially during winter . waving

The other concern is whether the new vaccines will be effective against the protein spike changes .


Again, from what I've read, scientists seem to think the protein spike will make no difference to the vaccines etc

mysticalview21's photo
Tue 12/22/20 04:26 PM
forgot this part ... just hope the first covid vac ...takes care of this one also ...


https://www.who.int/csr/don/06-november-2020-mink-associated-sars-cov2-denmark/en/

mysticalview21's photo
Tue 12/22/20 04:35 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Tue 12/22/20 04:39 PM

Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .
:thumbsup: agree becouse it is hitting the young I heard ... also thought I heard they had this strain in Africa ...

personal and do not need u to answer ... but did you get the new vac their...
giving some ...who work in the just say health care system...
can you help me tell my kid not to be a obgyn laugh joking... always said she could do anything she wanted ...
I think she would make a great lawyer ...:heart:

sugardaddi's photo
Tue 12/22/20 05:14 PM
Do all of you believe every word you are told in the media or by politicians? Surely by now we know they are liars at the core. I happen to think covid is overhyped flu and not much more dangerous.

Funny thing is that no one dies from flu anymore, used to be up to 80,000 or even over 100,000 died each year here in usa. But not any more, they all die from... take a wild guess... covid of course. Even if they were pulled out of an auto wreck they may be called covid victims.

I think the new covid is just more hype designed to set us up for more government control. To beat us down so we are greatful for any crumbs of liberty they decide to let us have. Refuse to obey unconstitutional and unreasonable orders. Masks have been proven to be useless against a virus. Vote out worthless politicians who do these things.

OK, back to fear mongering over the latest non pandemic

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Tue 12/22/20 08:25 PM


Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .
:thumbsup: agree becouse it is hitting the young I heard ... also thought I heard they had this strain in Africa ...

personal and do not need u to answer ... but did you get the new vac their...
giving some ...who work in the just say health care system...
can you help me tell my kid not to be a obgyn laugh joking... always said she could do anything she wanted ...
I think she would make a great lawyer ...:heart:
hi mystical .. nz likely will not commence vaccinating till the second quarter of 2021, starting with border workers and frontline staff , followed by general population mid year . We currently have no community transmission of covid in nz . The only cases we have are at our borders in managed quarantine . Season wise ... our summer finishes at the end of March .

Our government has secured vaccine purchases subject to safety approval by nz medsafe . That approval has not yet been granted . In the meantime we have the opportunity to observe what happens in other countries .

I have just recently started reading through data from all the clinical trials . will wait for medsafe’s recommendations before accepting a covid vaccination , if I am satisfied with the safety data , then yes I plan to be vaccinated .

When do you think you will be offered vaccination. ??? waving

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 12/23/20 02:49 AM



Technically it is not a “new virus “ It is a new strain of covid .. nor is it the first new stain since covid appeared . There have been other mutations It is the first mutation to raise concerns .
:thumbsup: agree becouse it is hitting the young I heard ... also thought I heard they had this strain in Africa ...

personal and do not need u to answer ... but did you get the new vac their...
giving some ...who work in the just say health care system...
can you help me tell my kid not to be a obgyn laugh joking... always said she could do anything she wanted ...
I think she would make a great lawyer ...:heart:
hi mystical .. nz likely will not commence vaccinating till the second quarter of 2021, starting with border workers and frontline staff , followed by general population mid year . We currently have no community transmission of covid in nz . The only cases we have are at our borders in managed quarantine . Season wise ... our summer finishes at the end of March .

Our government has secured vaccine purchases subject to safety approval by nz medsafe . That approval has not yet been granted . In the meantime we have the opportunity to observe what happens in other countries .

I have just recently started reading through data from all the clinical trials . will wait for medsafe’s recommendations before accepting a covid vaccination , if I am satisfied with the safety data , then yes I plan to be vaccinated .

When do you think you will be offered vaccination. ??? waving


I read about NZ having that policy the other day. I wished my country did the same. Unfortunately it has been approved of on EU level, the ECDC. If only The Netherlands did the same and waited at least a few more months.

So if you're satisfied with the safety data... meaning you currently aren't yet. Neither am I, nor are thousands of others including doctors and experts.
I hope we're not going to be forced to be guinea pigs for other countries...

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 12/23/20 02:55 AM
A new variant of the virus... so far I am not too concerned about that. All I feel is, now that, right before Christmas, and when they're about to flog the vaccine.
Is it true, or is it part of the fear-mongering program?
And like Blondey said, it has mutated before, if memory serves the first time was very early on, when Covid had just caused major problems in China and was about to spread further. So I guess around Febr/March 2020.

What I find peculiar is that China hasn't had a big problem at all anymore while numbers in the rest of mostly the Western world are sky-rocketing.
Africa is doing okay too and no, that has nothing to do with poor testing facilities etc.

Anyway, too early days to say. Faster spread doesn't mean it's worse. Wait and see and fingers crossed.

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Wed 12/23/20 10:29 AM

A new variant of the virus... so far I am not too concerned about that. All I feel is, now that, right before Christmas, and when they're about to flog the vaccine.
Is it true, or is it part of the fear-mongering program?
And like Blondey said, it has mutated before, if memory serves the first time was very early on, when Covid had just caused major problems in China and was about to spread further. So I guess around Febr/March 2020.

What I find peculiar is that China hasn't had a big problem at all anymore while numbers in the rest of mostly the Western world are sky-rocketing.
Africa is doing okay too and no, that has nothing to do with poor testing facilities etc.

Anyway, too early days to say. Faster spread doesn't mean it's worse. Wait and see and fingers crossed.
according to reports China has been vaccinating high risk populations since July . They have at least three promising vaccines that were approved for emergency use in their country . Two use an inactivated covid particles and one uses the new RNA technology . Not sure how much this has contributed to their containment efforts . Without a doubt they are super quick to act and trace when any outbreaks surface .

As for Africa ., there is now a new variant of covid in South Africa . Which is different to the uk variant and said to be as contagious .. if not more contagious . Africa has a very you g population . The concern would be this mutation targets younger people .

Equally as concerning .., Uk have this week identified two new cases of the South African variant in Britain . Will be interesting to see the government’s response .

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