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Topic: Coronavirus - part 2
Richard 's photo
Wed 10/06/21 12:59 PM
Edited by Richard on Wed 10/06/21 01:06 PM


“American Nurses Association say 90% or more of nurses are vaccinated”

“American Medical association say 96% of practising physicians vaccinated “

Now over 6 billion covid vaccinations worldwide

Progress around the world...concerning to see countries such as Africa who are clearly struggling ..

http://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-56237778.amp



the AMA reports are those who are still allowed to practice, practicing physicians is the key word blondey,
what they are not saying are the numbers of those who left, or have been let go,
that are no longer allowed to practice. so they are not counted in the AMA's final tally..

this while new reports of the J&J vaccine killing more people due to blood clots,
just released this morning. and hospitalization of vaccinated increases by over 1000% since the mandated have been put in place,with a wide range of side effects. because more people are getting (or are being forced) to take the shots.
also theres several reports that 50-60 % of the people most at risk, showing up in hospitals with the virus, were fully immunized.

https://www.citizensjournal.us/dod-data-show-that-60-of-covid-hospitalizations-in-65-and-older-patients-are-fully-vaccinated/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-60-of-covid-hospitalizations-in-older-americans-among-fully-vaccinated-govt-data-reveals/

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/08/studies-covid-vaccine-protection-waning-against-infection-not






A survey conducted by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) has found that 58 percent of physicians are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19. The AAPS survey comes on the back of another survey conducted by the American Medical Association (AMA) which claimed that almost 96 percent of doctors are fully vaccinated against the coronavirus.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/06/25/the-majority-of-american-physicians-remain-unvaccinated.html

also, because of the severe lack of qualified staff, several states have dropped nursing licenses as a requirement, allowing hospitals to hire nursing students strait from their collages(so their practicing with out a license). this is in addition to the national guard personnel all ready drafted to help them out..

governor's said they would issue executive orders that will make it easier for hospitals to hire nurses. The order will waive licensing requirements for hospitals in order to authorize credentials for retired or inactive nurses, defer some continuing education requirements and suspend statutes concerning new health care providers who are seeking a license to practice.

Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 10/06/21 01:27 PM
I have no problem with vaccines and I've been vaccinated.

There is a study out of Israel showing people who have recovered from Covid have "stronger and longer immunity" than those who have been vaccinated. The study also covered ‘breakthrough infections and "researchers found the vaccinated were 27 times more likely to suffer a symptomatic case of the virus in comparison to the risk previously infected people had of having symptomatic reinfection case".

The study showed that "individuals who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the BNT162b2 vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant". I know someone who was infected and recovered before being vaccinated, got two Pfizer shots and still got Covid a 2nd time.

This is why I DO have a problem with the one size fits all mandates for employees in the private or public sectors. We are all individuals, there are NO guaranties regardless of what you choose to do but the choice should be yours, not the choice of some bureaucrat or politician.

I haven't decided if I'm going to get the "booster" shot yet.....but it'll be a choice I CAN and WILL make for myself.


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Tue 10/12/21 01:36 AM
mandatory vaccination announced this week in. NZ for health care workers and the education sector

NZ doctors support vaccination
http://www.doctors-stand-up-for-vaccination.com/about-us/


And NZ nurses ....
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126655261/covid19-more-than-1700-nurses-sign-open-letter-urging-people-to-get-vaccinated

Vaccination mandates around the world ...
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126655079/covid19-how-vaccine-mandates-work-around-the-world

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Tue 10/12/21 01:44 AM
Doctors express frustration with vaccine /covid denial and share some of their experiences ....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-delta-outbreak-us-doctors-grow-frustrated-over-virus-denial-misinformation/NOOQTQJCJHGXBX4ERD4TA37KF4/



Richard 's photo
Tue 10/12/21 12:17 PM
Edited by Richard on Tue 10/12/21 12:36 PM



I'm sure you know (since your a nurse)
just as there are doctors singing the praises of the vaccines..

there are warnings from other doctors and nurses about the vaccines not doing the job as well as intended.
and there are the multiple reports by them, of the permanent damage being caused by the vaccines side effects, including death, heart damage, and debilitating strokes ect.... and as I have all ready shown, , I could call up more links from medical professionals. (that others call miss information). just as you have to show support for vaccines.


but it is not just the medical community speaking out.
teachers have also walked off the job and have been terminated as well over mandates.
and to try to fill the void using substitutes.
school districts cut requirements from having graduate degrees, to just being students/under graduates with bachelors degree's.
that also failed. so, now they just need to be 18, and pass a back ground check.

Under the emergency order, the only qualifications to become a substitute are: a person has to be at least 18 years old and must undergo a background check.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-teacher-shortage-prompts-state-to-ease-substitute-rules/ar-AAPoz4k
so just like hospitals, in some states, actually being licensed and qualified. are no longer required. to fill the role, of dismissed qualified personnel that chose not to be bullied into being vaccinated..




Richard 's photo
Tue 10/12/21 03:10 PM
Edited by Richard on Tue 10/12/21 03:22 PM
Covid vaccines do induce more antibodies than the immune system does after a coronavirus infection.

But the immune system response to infection appears to outshine its response to vaccines when it comes to memory B cells.

If the effect is replicated in children who are unlikely to develop Covid symptoms, it raises the prospect that they could be better protected by natural immunity than vaccination.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10075577/Natural-Covid-infection-produces-stronger-secondary-immune-response-vaccine-study-claims.html

Many have postulated reasons why the rates are so low in Africa, including attributing it to the widespread use of Ivermectin wonder drug, the use of anti-malarials, vitamin D and zinc generous use, BCG vaccination history and other reasons. While some suggest that the cases may be a bit higher but underreported, one cannot escape the fact that there are no widespread deaths as have been seen in India, New York, Italy and the like.

https://newsrescue.com/covid-cases-drop-20-in-africa-despite-under-8-total-vaccination-latest-who-records-show/



Ron DeSantis: People who “have recovered (from COVID-19) have very strong immunity.”

PolitiFact rating: Mostly True


Comparing natural versus vaccine immunity
Israeli researchers looked at thousands of medical records. In one part of the study, they compared over 16,000 patients who were previously infected and never vaccinated against another 16,000 who had only received the Pfizer vaccine. They factored in age, gender, health and when they were infected or vaccinated.

They found that the vaccinated group that did not report any prior infection was much more at risk of catching COVID-19 later on than those who had already been infected but not vaccinated. There was a 13-fold higher risk of a breakthrough infection compared with reinfection.

"This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer-lasting and stronger protection against infection," the Aug. 25 study said.



https://citizenfreepress.com/column-2/the-power-of-natural-covid-immunity/

New work out of Rockefeller University adds weight to the Israeli findings. It focuses on the body’s molecular level defenses against the virus, especially the memory B cell. Long after the initial antibody response fades, these cells hold on to the blueprint of the virus and when they see it in the body months later, they crank up the antibodies to crush it.

Both vaccinations and natural exposure build memory B cells. But the Rockefeller team found that the memory B cells produced through natural infection are more robust. They continue to evolve over the months, while the vaccination-driven memory B cells stopped changing after about two months. When facing variants, the naturally occurring memory B cells delivered better protection.





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Wed 10/13/21 02:34 PM
New Zealand is having a super Sunday Vaxathon ... we are making great progress towards 90% vaccination of eligible population .. I believe we will top 95% .., go kiwis :heart:

Richard 's photo
Thu 10/14/21 11:45 AM
Edited by Richard on Thu 10/14/21 12:18 PM

New Zealand is having a super Sunday Vaxathon ... we are making great progress towards 90% vaccination of eligible population .. I believe we will top 95% .., go kiwis :heart:

here we are concerned if we will loose another 13% , the estimated remaining medical/first responder staff that have been allowed to still work, with out being vaccinated.
when the october 18th dead line set by our govenor, for vaccination mandates are reached...we have all ready had so many leave / terminated over mandates, that it is doing a lot more harm then good.
edit: I just heard this morning,
this week, we lost 40 people to covid with underlying conditions, 27 were fully vaccinated.

Rock's photo
Thu 10/14/21 05:31 PM
I may attach a copy of my vaxx card to my resume' .


no photo
Thu 10/14/21 05:43 PM

I may attach a copy of my vaxx card to my resume' .


more importantly .. have they given you a Digital QR scanning code for travel bigsmile :wink:


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Thu 10/14/21 05:50 PM
Global update

4,893,547 global deaths (tragic)

35.9% of world fully vaccinated

World population approx 7.9 billion

Who estimates only 10% of global population have been infected with covid .




Rock's photo
Thu 10/14/21 07:10 PM


I may attach a copy of my vaxx card to my resume' .


more importantly .. have they given you a Digital QR scanning code for travel bigsmile :wink:




On my list of things to get done. bigsmile

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Fri 10/15/21 12:01 PM



I may attach a copy of my vaxx card to my resume' .


more importantly .. have they given you a Digital QR scanning code for travel bigsmile :wink:




On my list of things to get done. bigsmile

tongue2 bigsmile

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Fri 10/15/21 12:04 PM
New Zealand is having a super Sunday Vaxathon ... we are making great progress towards 90% vaccination of eligible population .. I believe we will top 95% .., go kiwis :heart:

Typo .. oops the vaxathon is on Saturday ..that is today in NZ ...(sorry I think rock distracted me ) . will share some of what happens today. .

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Fri 10/15/21 12:26 PM
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300429347/covid19-what-weve-learned-about-the-virus-over-18-months-in-the-wilderness

NZ has had the advantage of being an isolated pacific island which has allowed us to watch the rest of the world cope with the pandemic . This article looks back to when the pandemic began and what has changed .. backed by global research data and statistical evidence collected .

I am not sure we appreciated the advantage we had or used it wisely . Complacency and security in fortress NZ is likely why our vaccination programme was so late to start . With little to no covid circulating in our communities .. vaccination was. It considered a priority . So what has changed .. the arrival of delta to our shores , gave Nz a much needed reality check .

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Fri 10/15/21 12:29 PM
http://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2021/10/doctors-for-covid-vaccination/


http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126667525/covid19-thousands-of-doctors-come-together-to-support-covid19-vaccination


NZ doctors unite to support covid vaccination .

Together we are stronger smitten

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Sat 10/16/21 03:50 PM
Just under 130,000 Vaccinated during our super Saturday Vaxathon .. which was described as a “party on the Marae“ .. lots of fun, hilarity and community togetherness ...,brilliant result kiwis .. keep up the amazing work :heart:

Richard 's photo
Mon 10/18/21 04:46 PM
Edited by Richard on Mon 10/18/21 04:56 PM
colin powell died today over complications from covid, he was fully vaccinated..
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/colin-powell-former-secretary-of-state-who-made-case-for-iraq-invasion-dies-of-covid-complications-at-84.html


Richard 's photo
Tue 10/19/21 08:57 AM
Edited by Richard on Tue 10/19/21 09:03 AM
while the oregon department of education is boasting a 96% vaccination rate for teachers in the class room.. they also reported that there is 64% fewer eligible teachers, to fill the needed requirements of the state. (I mentioned earlier how desperate they are to fill the education rosters.


not that I got anything against a good block party,
reporting percentages is all in the spin of those presenting the data.
I would not say your doctors are ALL united blondey.. I am finding that just like here.. NZ have issues with walk outs as well being threatened with loosing their jobs if they dont comply..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/125605155/the-doctors-trying-to-

https://newsrescue.com/when-accomplished-doctors-are-rubbished-as-insane-see-growing-list-of-doctors-against-mandatory-jabs-dismissed-by-mainstream/hijack-new-zealands-covid19-vaccination-rollout
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/445488/medical-council-cannot-reveal-what-action-taken-against-anti-pfizer-vaccine-doctors


https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/nzma-says-doctors-who-aren-t-vaccinated-against-covid-19-shouldn-t-see-patients.html

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Tue 10/19/21 01:57 PM

colin powell died today over complications from covid, he was fully vaccinated..
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/colin-powell-former-secretary-of-state-who-made-case-for-iraq-invasion-dies-of-covid-complications-at-84.html


perhaps you would like to share all of the facts Richard ...

‘WASHINGTON – Colin Powell, the trailblazing soldier and statesman, has died from Covid complications at the age of 84.
Powell, who was fully vaccinated against Covid, had several underlying conditions. He had been suffering from Parkinson's disease and had been treated recently for multiple myeloma, according to a Powell family spokesperson.

Multiple myeloma is a type of blood cancer that hurts the body's ability to fight infections. Fully vaccinated people with weakened immune systems make up a large proportion of hospitalized breakthrough cases, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Powell had also undergone surgery for prostate cancer when he was secretary of State nearly two decades ago.
Powell and his wife, Alma Powell, tested positive for Covid a week ago. Alma Powell, who will soon turn 84 herself, has been suffering Covid symptoms and was recovering at home, the spokesperson said.
Colin Powell had planned to get a booster shot last week, but he wasn't feeling well enough to get it, the spokesperson added.“


a phenomenal man . .. Rest easy soldier :heart:

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