Topic: Liberia....Thank you George Bush...
OKC_Chef's photo
Fri 02/22/08 07:21 PM




Nice try Soxie, but you just gave yourself away.




You prove my points all too easily. This is just the most straightforward example of what all of your insults and arguments amount to: arbitrary allegations.

Gave myself away as what? How? These are the types of issues you need to present in order to make a credible point.



Soxie dear:

I pay you no mind. Your style of writing and composure reek of immaturity, staleness and redundency; in other words you are a "little twerp still wet behind the ears."

You cannot handle a woman challenging you in any manner. In fact, the other day you said some pretty nasty things to and about 'Aspiringactress.'

Someday and opposing attorney or a Judge her/himself will mop up the courtroom floor with your 'behind.'

Lindyy



Lindy,

Is your memory that short? You attacked "Aspiring Actress" yourself. And what is with always threating what a judge or attorney will do to someone? Who gives a crap! Can't you give an opinion with out the judge/attorney junk in it? Does that somehow make you feel superior? Hate to tell you this, but everyone's opinion is important. Not just yours!grumble

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Fri 02/22/08 09:58 PM


Ok dragon. Do you know what the war on terrorism is? Because its not a war on Bin Ladden. Yes it was started after 9/11, but its sole purpose is not to capture him its to "curb the spread of terrorism" He havent caught bin ladden because he is not being active and hiding out in caves. Its hard to catch someone when you dont know where he is. Saddam, however, has been supporting terrorism(such as paying families of suicide bombers). By stopping him we are curbing the spread of terrorism. There have been operations in Europe, Africa, Asian, and the Middle East.

We can't just steal their oil, the UN wouldn't allow it and thats just stupid if you think that. Now if we help them set up a government and they are pleased with us then yea we could become good friends and have better business relations. Who the *%$# cares. Saddam was a horrible person and those people deserve better.


Okay lets define terror-ist for those unfamaliar with the word or the picture that goes with it, shall we?

Bush's definition of the war on terror=Saddam

Everyone elses definition of terrorist and the war on terror=all terrorist world wide, not just arabic or Iraqi but world wide. War on terror to the world is a world wide problem not just one person or place.

Which would be a more effective war on terror, baby shrubs idea of Saddam and Iraq or the world view of every terrorist organization in the world and all it's participants?

You have been brainwashed to believe all terrorist are arab, all terrorist are Saddam, all terrorists need Iraq, etc.....

If your illustrious leader really wanted a war on terror he would have made it world wide, utilizing all nations and all militaries and all countries.

He is full of sh*t to say the Iraq will effect the terrorists of this world and he is full of sh*t to make everyone believe that Iraq will stop the influx of terrorists of this world, he is full of sh*t to make Saddam pay for 9/11, etc......

So if he is full of it, which he is and you buy into it then you are brainwashed. America was brainwashed, not all though, because I spoke out about this same thing years ago. I could see the error of his ways before we attacked Iraq. I do know that others could too.

So wallow in his sh*t if you want to I will choose the higher road and work to make my country better than baby shrub has made it.


So all of a sudden you say that I think all terrorist are arab? I never said that and I never thought that. You shouldn't assume people think things. This is our war. We can't force other countries to participate.

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Fri 02/22/08 10:07 PM




Oh and its not called brainwashing. Its called knowing the facts. I actually look things up and form an opinion about something rather than just tell everyone they are brainwashed.


You are obviously not looking up all information as I have done or you would not believe the brainwash fed you.


You are the one that sounds brainwashed. Apparently I am brainwashed because I think Saddam was a bad person because of all the horrible acts he as committed. I guess all the evidence about his use of mustard gas on his own people, harboring terrorists, and paying the families of suicide bombers are all lies and he was really a swell guy.


How did bin laden and Saddam change places after 9/11???? How did saddam who has been what he has been forever suddenly become intolerable to us after 9/11? Our government had utilized him in the past so we were accepting of him then. How does his misdeeds become an issue when bin laden perpetrates the greatest crime on our soil???? How does this happen??? Until you answer those questions and answer them well, you are brainwashed. Sorry


So people who don't have every answer you seek are brainwashed? You don't seem very open minded. You also don't seem to know what brainwashing is. We were unable to find Bin Ladden. Its not easy to find someone in the middle east when they don't want to be found. Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers. That is terrorism. He has been involved in terrorism for years and we knew where he was.

They thought Saddam had WMDs at the time. We were not the only ones to go there. Soldiers from UK, Georgia(the country not the state)Australia, South Korea, Poland, Romania, El Salvador, Bulgaria, Albania, Mongolia, Czech Republic, Azerbaijan, Denmark,Armenia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Herzengovina, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Latvia.

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Sat 02/23/08 06:36 AM
So all of a sudden you say that I think all terrorist are arab? I never said that and I never thought that. You shouldn't assume people think things. This is our war. We can't force other countries to participate.


I disagree...it should not be only your war. Many other countries and the UN knows that Bush is doing what is needed but they would rather sit back, let Bush take all the flack and be burdened with funding the war. The Canadian gov was disingenuous when they failed to stand beside the US when war was declared by the US Congress. The Canadian military has nothing to offer and that's why they failed to join. Germany and France were making huge $$$$ with the food for oil scam and Russia was owed a great amount of $$$$ by Saddam which they would kiss goodbye if Saddam was taken out. The terrorists threaten world piece and the world needs to unite to annihilate them

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Sat 02/23/08 07:33 AM


Someday and opposing attorney or a Judge her/himself will mop up the courtroom floor with your 'behind.'

Lindyy



Lindy,

... And what is with always threating what a judge or attorney will do to someone? Who gives a crap! Can't you give an opinion with out the judge/attorney junk in it? Does that somehow make you feel superior? Hate to tell you this, but everyone's opinion is important. Not just yours!grumble


Whoever you are:

Whew, talk about distortion! Yes, I am entitled to my opinion; alas, seems people such as yourself donot want ME to pose my opinion. Do I care? NOOOOOOOO.noway noway noway

Threatening? Just mere fact. Soxie knows what I meant, he is in law school, doofus on you, huh? I simply made a statement of fact that I have seen happen time after time in my own legal career when an attorney pleads a case before a judge and jury with a 'know it all' attitude.

Now, may I suggest that if you do not like what I post, and we both agree do we not, that I AM allowed to post MY opinion, that you ever so simply pass over my post and go on to the next individual's post. Very simple solution to your frustration.

Lindyy
:heart:

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Sat 02/23/08 07:49 AM
Edited by wiley on Sat 02/23/08 08:05 AM






You are the one that sounds brainwashed. Apparently I am brainwashed because I think Saddam was a bad person because of all the horrible acts he as committed. I guess all the evidence about his use of mustard gas on his own people, harboring terrorists, and paying the families of suicide bombers are all lies and he was really a swell guy.


Chaz - Lol, can you imagine what it must be like thinking that somehow nearly everyone except you is brainwashed and you are the only one who knows the real truth? Must be so frustrating. And scary, I would imagine when you eventually (maybe) realize that it was the other way around...poor girl.

Symbel - Are you serious?


Yes I am, I can disagree with someone yet admire their convictions and willingness to defend them...I feel the same way about madisonman and a few others around here.
smokin


I understand the concept and I agree it's a good quality to be able to respect someone with differing opinions. But willingness to defend them, by itself, doesn't overcome disingenuous arguments and personal attacks. Respectable conviction is the minimum threshold in my book.


SOX:
Now YOU have a problem with partial birth abortion being banned? And who the HELL was I attacking?explode explode

Lindyy




Wow. Just wow. I don't think Sox' post was even referring to you Lindyy, but that didn't stop you did it? Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard. Please.

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Sat 02/23/08 01:11 PM





Wow. Just wow. I don't think Sox' post was even referring to you Lindyy, but that didn't stop you did it? Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard. Please.


I suggest that you Wiley, step away..................

You people cannot stand a Conservative Christian Republican speaking up. Well, just too bad. Like I told someone earlier, if you do not like what I post, be ever so kind to yourself and just skip over my post. I truely do NOT CARE WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK OF ME. Your thoughts of me are pure trivial nonsense.

Lindyy
:heart:

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Sat 02/23/08 01:13 PM
drinker

Shaden's photo
Sat 02/23/08 01:13 PM
BLAHHHHHH

wiley's photo
Sat 02/23/08 04:13 PM
Edited by wiley on Sat 02/23/08 04:15 PM





Wow. Just wow. I don't think Sox' post was even referring to you Lindyy, but that didn't stop you did it? Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard. Please.


I suggest that you Wiley, step away..................

You people cannot stand a Conservative Christian Republican speaking up. Well, just too bad. Like I told someone earlier, if you do not like what I post, be ever so kind to yourself and just skip over my post. I truely do NOT CARE WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK OF ME. Your thoughts of me are pure trivial nonsense.

Lindyy
:heart:


Don't go away mad Lindyy, just go away...

Lindyy's photo
Sat 02/23/08 06:53 PM






Don't go away mad Lindyy, just go away...


Wiley:

Sorry, but I think the Lord led me to this forum to get something POSITIVE brought to the attention to the people living in the World that He Created!

Can you imagine, (those who are Christians AND Jewish), what He must think when He sees all this hatred going on toward His people that love Him and serve Him.

How sad it must be for God.

Lindyy
:heart: :heart:


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Sat 02/23/08 07:00 PM







Don't go away mad Lindyy, just go away...


Wiley:

Sorry, but I think the Lord led me to this forum to get something POSITIVE brought to the attention to the people living in the World that He Created!

Can you imagine, (those who are Christians AND Jewish), what He must think when He sees all this hatred going on toward His people that love Him and serve Him.

How sad it must be for God.

Lindyy
:heart: :heart:




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Sat 02/23/08 07:10 PM







Don't go away mad Lindyy, just go away...


Wiley:

Sorry, but I think the Lord led me to this forum to get something POSITIVE brought to the attention to the people living in the World that He Created!

Can you imagine, (those who are Christians AND Jewish), what He must think when He sees all this hatred going on toward His people that love Him and serve Him.

How sad it must be for God.

Lindyy
:heart: :heart:


Which voice in your head told you that anything you say is positive. Was it Rush's voice cause it sure wasn't God.:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Lindyy's photo
Sat 02/23/08 07:34 PM




Wiley:

Sorry, but I think the Lord led me to this forum to get something POSITIVE brought to the attention to the people living in the World that He Created!

Can you imagine, (those who are Christians AND Jewish), what He must think when He sees all this hatred going on toward His people that love Him and serve Him.

How sad it must be for God.

Lindyy
:heart: :heart:


Which voice in your head told you that anything you say is positive. Was it Rush's voice cause it sure wasn't God.:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:


How would you or dragon possibly know? It is so sad that there are people on this site with a mindset such as yours.

Did you every try being optimistic, positive about anything? Perhaps you would find life more rewarding if you did.

Lindyy
:heart:

Troubled's photo
Sat 02/23/08 07:38 PM
Yea I could see all along that you were the poster child for positivity.noway noway noway noway noway noway

Dragoness's photo
Sat 02/23/08 07:47 PM

Yea I could see all along that you were the poster child for positivity.noway noway noway noway noway noway



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Sat 02/23/08 07:53 PM





Oh and its not called brainwashing. Its called knowing the facts. I actually look things up and form an opinion about something rather than just tell everyone they are brainwashed.


You are obviously not looking up all information as I have done or you would not believe the brainwash fed you.


You are the one that sounds brainwashed. Apparently I am brainwashed because I think Saddam was a bad person because of all the horrible acts he as committed. I guess all the evidence about his use of mustard gas on his own people, harboring terrorists, and paying the families of suicide bombers are all lies and he was really a swell guy.


How did bin laden and Saddam change places after 9/11???? How did saddam who has been what he has been forever suddenly become intolerable to us after 9/11? Our government had utilized him in the past so we were accepting of him then. How does his misdeeds become an issue when bin laden perpetrates the greatest crime on our soil???? How does this happen??? Until you answer those questions and answer them well, you are brainwashed. Sorry


So people who don't have every answer you seek are brainwashed? You don't seem very open minded. You also don't seem to know what brainwashing is. We were unable to find Bin Ladden. Its not easy to find someone in the middle east when they don't want to be found. Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers. That is terrorism. He has been involved in terrorism for years and we knew where he was.

They thought Saddam had WMDs at the time. We were not the only ones to go there. Soldiers from UK, Georgia(the country not the state)Australia, South Korea, Poland, Romania, El Salvador, Bulgaria, Albania, Mongolia, Czech Republic, Azerbaijan, Denmark,Armenia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Herzengovina, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Latvia.


The questions I ask that have no answers are the questions all Americans should require.

We should not just accept the excuse that Saddam deserved it so we are justified. We are not justified to attack a country that did not do 9/11, regardless to the excuses we were fed.

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Sun 02/24/08 06:42 AM
Edited by leahmarie on Sun 02/24/08 06:54 AM
Dragon ......

Saddam came into power, or I should say, seized power in July of 1979. In the early months of his power he had hundreds of members of his own party and army officers who he thought might be against him murdered. He even ordered the killing of two of his own sons-in-law who had defected to Jordan. Saddam tricked them into coming back to Baghdad by promising them safety. During his rule of terror he used executions and extrajudicial killings as a tool of political repression, both to eliminate real or suspected political opponents.

He plunged Iraq into an eight-year war with neighboring Iran. The aftermath of that war was that hundreds of thousands in Iran and Iraq were killed and Saddam destroyed Iraq's economy.
The economic troubles from the Iran war led Saddam to invade Kuwait in the summer of 1990, seeking to grab its oil wealth, but the American-led coalitiion stopped him.

As far as Weapons of Mass Destruction are concerned, the International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, a design for a nuclear weapon, and was working on methods of enriching uranium for a nuclear bomb. He had recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa, according to the British Government. He had attempted to purchase high strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons, according to intelligence sources. Yet he had not credibly explained these activities.

Iraqi officials were accompanying all inspectors in order to intimidate witnesses. Iraq was blocking U-2 surveillance flights requested by the U.N. Saddam Hussein had ordered that scientists who cooperate with the UN be killed, along with their families.

Shall we go into the crimes he committed against humanity with the torture chambers, the mass graves, the supression of freedom, and on and on?



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Sun 02/24/08 06:57 AM
Leah:

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Let us not leave out the genocide of the Kurds in the north and the massive graves.

Let us not leave out the chemical experimentation on humans and helpless dogs.

Let us not leave out the plastic shredder where people were put in feet first to ensure they were able to experience the pure pleasure of it all.


Let us not forget the beheadings, torture chambers and raping of women and children.


OF COURSE, DRAGON WILL COME TO THE DEFENSE OF THIS.explode explode


Lindyy
:heart:

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Sun 02/24/08 07:17 AM
We should not just accept the excuse that Saddam deserved it so we are justified. We are not justified to attack a country that did not do 9/11, regardless to the excuses we were fed.


your still back on that page?..oh and you need to stop saying "we" as if you speak for more than just yourself...noway