I don't make excuses for anybody. I'm well aware of the numbers and the FACT that if there were a force of 250,000,000
With the same ideology WITHIN the religion they lay claim to, they would have wiped out Israel and done more than make a stand against the Russians in Afghanistan. They would have made a campaign back into Russian territory killing as many as possible along the way.
Jihadi's don't even work together. How many jihadi terrorist organizations are there? What political or socioeconomic affiliations do they have? How many nations in the Arab world have declared war against Saudi Arabia? Qatar? Jordan? Georgia? Any North African nations for that matter? How deep into the African continent does jihadism reach? Go cut and paste your jokes on your facebook page with a link to your physical address so your terrorist buddies know where to find you.

My eyes work just fine.

Amazing... I never knew you spoke Farsi. I never knew you were a liberal progressive either, go figure. Be sure to tell the terrorist you're talking to that you speak only for yourself.

Moe, I certainly agree as far as Americans are concerned. For the fleeing Christians and yazidis brutally targeted by isil it's unfortunate. You can't blame them for terrorists killing them then infiltrating them as they flee their homeland.

Sassy, you misunderstood 'heart in the right place' it didn't refer to the refugees, it applies to those trying to help the refugees out of the goodness of their hearts. The Yazidi who prompted early airstrikes against isil are a very small non zealous sect of Muslims. They don't have a country, a city, a police force. All the could do was flee and seek shelter to care for the children and elderly. They were defenseless. That doesn't mean they should come here, but they couldn't stay where they were.
As far as bringing refugees to America I was against it before the attacks. We need to get rid of the 13+M.
I think the Saudis Kuwaitis Jordanians Egyptians Turks and the like should lead in the fight against isil. They at least know the area, history, politics, businesses, connections better than we (the west) do.

This was a bad idea. We know one of the Paris attackers slipped in with the refugees with a fake passport. He could have brought the ideology the fervor the zeal or connections to isil even if he wasn't the mastermind. We have enough nuts here as it is.
For the Christians and minorities like the yazidi the heart is in the right place but the risk is too big with the three large attacks within 7-10 days by isil.

Igor, I agree that being part of the crime vs. being a witness/victim is two separate circumstances. 100%
However, the 'anti-snitch' belief/code/# is being attached to whoever it falls on regardless of their innocence. It's another inherent flaw of the 'code of silence'. Stray bullets kill innocent people. People get nervous jealous scared... Family members of victims want answers, cops get involved and devildog spelled out the rest.
But, every instance where the families of victims are targeted are INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE that the police either don't want to do their job or don't care or they are on the take from the gang/organization. It is their DUTY to serve and PROTECT ALL the people in their jurisdiction, ESPECIALLY the families of victims eye witnesses or uninvolved family members, period. If the cops walk away from a witness and ALLOW them to be killed, they are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE and should be held LEGALLY CULPABLE for the retaliation.
Just like a witness who doesn't testify being an accomplice, an officer or commander who orders withdrawal should be accomplices to whatever retaliation occurs. There are laws, it's their job to ENFORCE those laws and PROTECT the people, so if negligence leads to an attack crime or death they should be charged and sentenced according to the law.
The police don't want to admit they get payoffs from gangs, protect shipments of drugs and guns. Protecting citizens costs them money protecting criminal organizations makes them money every time. A single mother of a child or an old lady might bake them some cookies but gangsters and criminal organizations either pay them off or get all their assets seized. Retaliation against snitches keeps the wheels of crime rolling, guilt by association allows them to pick who they want in charge who they want behind bars and who they want dead. This goes much deeper than most people think or are willing to admit because they don't want to believe it.

The pen that draws that line ran out of ink a long time ago. Gangs retaliate against innocent children or eye witnesses that were otherwise not involved. Whether someone involved cops a plea or not the murder, or whatever retaliation is still a crime.
Here's why this program doesn't work for (the criminal element), and works against everyone.
The 'code of silence' implies that the criminals will police themselves.

It relies on a set of morals for people with little or no morals at all.
(Honor amongst thieves)
It relies on perfect crimes, where no innocents are harmed.
It relies on people with no morals who are criminals as well to protect and uphold civil lawlessness.
It assumes no one will ever get jealous despite having being 5hitted raped robbed beaten locked up left out etc. F'n your old lady... My bad I ain't kno dat was wifey but she slob like a pro san!!!

Every one of these things is impossible. That's the code, the G stands for gullible if you think 'we bout to get paid' . What you bout to get is played.
Whether a snitch who cops a plea bargain gets stitches or chalked scraped and zipped up it causes more people to commit more crimes resulting in more people being locked up. Snitch strike lather rinse repeat.

That means the cops are part of the crime period. If you know and you don't report testify you're liable as an unwilling accomplice at best at worst harboring a fugitive. There's a wide range you can fall into depending on availability at your local private 5 and crime. You have an obligation as a citizen to obey the laws. The police have an obligation too, only when they fail to meet that obligation they get a paycheck. You get a cell if you're lucky a bullet in the head or knife in your chest. See any problems with this?

B.s. Double Standard. They serve, if and when they feel like it or when they haven't met their quota. They protect themselves until somebody gets too greedy (Gliniewicz) and or somebody gets jealous, and or somebody not in on the crime discovers it and finds a price tag on their head.

Why does anybody think the mob/gangster movies end the way they do? Greed and jealousy. That's the G code. The next greedy bastards pick up where the deceased or incarcerated left off and the cycle continues.

So the guy in the prison did the right thing about Joyce Mitchell? He didn't snitch. What happened to him?
What about that punk a55 8itch Lt. 'G.I. Joe' Gliniewicz? Should they let him keep embezzling from a MENTORING PROGRAM FOR THE KIDS and putting a hit out on thr city manager?!?!?!? Then faking dying in the line of duty stealing his death Benefits from Fox Lake and whatever insurance policy he had? How much did his CRIMES embarrass EVERY ONE WHO HAS EVER WORN A UNIFORM OR DONE ANY VOLUNTARY PUBLIC SERVICE? How much did his ***** *** cost us in the 'manhunt' and ensuing investigations?

I my first memories are from the suburbs (pronounced gang infested slums) of Chicago where my dad was a U.S. Army recruiter. The code of silence, the code of the street, the G code, the blue wall of silence, whatever you call the code (hint...) is just that, a code. Codes don't write themselves, they are written
By PROGRAMMERS. The programmers don't just write the code they reinforce it by adhering to a code of their own, we call that honor amongst thieves.

Wake up.

Keep right on using that F word. And you thought the 'friend zone' was just a superstition. It's real!

Cowl

You're getting very close to the roots of this 'culture' but think about this. It doesn't represent the entire country or any part of it. People who don't commit crimes don't care if you testify because they have nothing to hide. The people with something to hide are USING YOU to protect THEIR CRIME. THEIR MURDERS, RAPES, DRUG TRAFFICKING, THEFT, ASSAULTS. If you don't 'snitch' like you're programmed, you're VOLUNTEERING your services to protect those crimes FOR FREE. Plus you can be held CRIMINALLY LIABLE as an accomplice.

Programmed, that word was intentionally chosen. If your next door neighbor had a toddler and all of a sudden they aren't around playing or going to school and you find out that child was kkilled in the home would you still want to live next to them? What if you had a toddler? Hell yes I'd tell, all day any day of the week. I'm not PROGRAMMED to accept the death of an INNOCENT infant toddler child teen man woman elder or athlete. AMERICA white black Latino immigrant police, all of US need to REALize this. The people dying on the news on our t.v's are REAL HUMAN BEINGS. Or you can accept an strengthen the programming by protecting the next murderer or rapist and ENSURE they will continue killing and raping.

If I witnessed the death of a child an innocent teen, an innocent bystander, an elderly person, YES.
I don't care who the offenders are.

This is a big part of what is wrong in this country, not black, white, north south east west, police, immigrant.
It's not a new problem. It's two things, 1 the "Good ole' boy" system and 2 the "bystander effect" that stems from it.
_____ protects ______ (plug in any demographic value it all works the same). When someone outside that group sees what happens when insiders testify and the group retaliates <listen close> outsiders are CONTROLLED BY FEAR. Controlled by fear, not a bond, not concern for human life, nothing but FEAR.

Here's the question, do you want to protect people who kill children? Teens? Elderly men and women?
By protecting KILLERS and CRIMINALS, what GOOD comes from THAT decision. It is a decision, even if you unconsciously repeat catch phrases like 'snitches get stitches'.

Remember that the word snitch is part of the criminal lexicon.
Does it make any difference to you if a kid in your neighborhood is killed by a white person, a police officer, an immigrant, a native American, any other demographic? Would you 'snitch' on them?

All that **** goes out the window when CHILDREN start dying.

Vive la France!!!

Are those straight jackets hypoallergenic?

It'd be unconstitutional if executive orders weren't in the constitution exclusive to the sitting POTUS.

So all the 'conservatives' want to get rid of 11 million illegal immigrants but when a democrat who has exhausted his efforts working across the isle to deport 5 million people constitutionally where INS has failed and continues to fail he's abusing his power...

Stupid. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen ANY government do in my life.

They had one of those in AZ in the 40's, not sure what happened to it...

The friend zone isn't a superstition. It's like the lost woods in the legend of Zelda, you can walk right in but you need a secret code to get out of it.

I believe relationships that start with lust don't often last as meaningful relationships but there's also a big problem with the F word, friends. It's turned into a bad word. --Just looking for friends and if it turns into more...--- IF. When? When does it turn into more? Not after sex, not after dinner and a movie, not after 'hanging out'.... So when? Or rather how much $? That's what this is turning into. For those of us who are old fashioned, 'FRIENDS' didn't have sex. They didn't kiss or mess around. They didn't have what would otherwise be considered a date unless they were dating. The concept of something that isn't or wouldn't work out isn't lost on me but how long do you keep someone as a 'friend' and how many 'friends' (that wasn't intentional but it works) before you're just straight out using someone to ditch them because they're 'too serious' or 'no fun'? When they are not meeting your bottom line. 'Friends' are a form of income, they trade and sell just like goods and services.
They also had words for people whose naughty bits were everybodys business but technology allows people to bypass their reputation and hide who and what they really are.
Some people will laugh, but when you're 22 and you have 2 or more kids from different, ... donors, what good are you doing yourself or your kids? That's our future. That fact is undeniable.

You took the biggest step in the process of ending the relationship without any steps that should have come before that. You were determined enough to buy or rent your own home after all this time but you haven't come to terms internally with yourself that you want to end the relationship. I understand that letting go can be hard but if they can't stop lying to you and hurting you that's what you need to do. If moving away from that person didn't send the message that you are tired of how they treat you what will?