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Fri 04/11/14 04:46 PM
Quote by Sojourning_Soul:
I agree with many if not most of your opinions to varying degrees. You get it! Excellent! But the best message is one that says something to everyone, not just those who already agree with you.
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Often times, a certain segment of society isn't going to agree with me anyway.

Why?

Because they literally CAN'T. They're not allowed to.

Here we are touching on religion again, but have you ever heard of the Talmudic Law of Moser?

Moser = Informer

It's basically the Law of the Informer.

Believe it or not; members of a certain Abrahamic "religion"; i.e. Talmudists; are PROHIBITED by a certain law in their Talmud; to "inform" on their fellow Talmudists to a non Talmudist.

Just a simple agreement on nearly any issue constitutes "informing" and that person would be shunned thereafter.

If not beaten...or, worse.

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Fri 04/11/14 04:25 PM


We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

Sometimes I refer to the media as the JMSM.

Trouble is, in this forum here at mingle I have found there is a certain word that one must not ever ever say out loud.

Why?

Because using that word seems to greatly offend those who ARE that particular word, Gnomesayin?

Btw? I live in East Texas. There are more Pentecostals than you can shake a stick at in East Texas and it is THEY who refer to the media as the "AC media".


That's where I got the term from. It's odd to me how you object to it.

Must be a different kind of Pentecostal, I'm thinking.

Yep, we'll agree to disagree, but I will respect your right to not have your threads flagged because of my usage of a NON PC word.




My friend, I have been here many years since the site started as "Just Say Hi". After my accident I forgot my user name and created SS in '09.

I warn you for your own protection, agree or not, be aware of the problems of such inference or topic here.

Many threads have taken that trip to be scrubbed (or worse) due to personal attacks that ALWAYS ensue.

It most often turns into a gunfight before the cowboys leave the corral! One or more are always lookin for a fight!

I wish to avoid that


That's what happens when one chooses to gamble somewhere...where the deck is stacked against them.

I'm a member of several forums. You wouldn't think it to look at me...but,...My posts, comments, and threads are read by many people all around the world.

Given what I tend to post about; i.e. controversial topics often covered up by the JMSM; I have to admit I am an internationally hated man.

That's ok.

Somebody has to tell the truth.

Used to be if I wasn't called an "anti-semite" 50 times a day; then that was a slow day for me. LOL

Some people have no appreciation for the truth; the truth messes up their propaganda too much.

They HATE me for that. LOLOL

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Fri 04/11/14 04:11 PM
Must be true, Gov already denying.

http://bnowire.com/inbox/?id=2307



For the proper level of paranoia, you should be using linux open source firmware on your router:

DD-WRT is a Linux based alternative OpenSource firmware suitable for a great variety of WLAN routers and embedded systems. The main emphasis lies on providing the easiest possible handling while at the same time supporting a great number of functionalities within the framework of the respective hardware platform used.

The Heartbleed vulnerability in discovered in OpenSSL 1.0.1 - 1.0.1f is one of the most serious matters in encrypted data communication during the last years. First of all we can ensure you that the encrypted web services like the DD-WRT Online Shop and the Activation center never have been affected because the OpenSSL version we are using does not contain the vulnerability.

Currently the main focus of the Heartbleed discussion lies on web servers using SSL/TLS but other services on Linux systems are also using OpenSSL. By default none of these services is enabled in DD-WRT - nevertheless it is important that you check your router settings to find out if you might be affected by Heartbleed.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index

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Fri 04/11/14 04:00 PM
Quote by SS:
There is much good to be found there, but that can be said of any ideology/theology/teaching, even satanism.
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ORLY?

There is much good to be found in Satanism, eh?

ORLY?

Since I know you're not going to explain that, I won't ask you to.

I won't even go there.


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Fri 04/11/14 03:56 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

Sometimes I refer to the media as the JMSM.

Trouble is, in this forum here at mingle I have found there is a certain word that one must not ever ever say out loud.

Why?

Because using that word seems to greatly offend those who ARE that particular word, Gnomesayin?

Btw? I live in East Texas. There are more Pentecostals than you can shake a stick at in East Texas and it is THEY who refer to the media as the "AC media".


That's where I got the term from. It's odd to me how you object to it.

Must be a different kind of Pentecostal, I'm thinking.

Yep, we'll agree to disagree, but I will respect your right to not have your threads flagged because of my usage of a NON PC word.


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Fri 04/11/14 02:59 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Fri 04/11/14 03:03 PM


FAUX is better? LOL

NONE of the anti-Christ media outlets in America are worth a plugged nickel. Many if not most of the anti-Christ media outlets in Europe are not worth a plugged nickel either.

I can see though that practicing the false left/right paradigm and/or divide and conquer tactics are of paramount importance here. To some people.

It's a practice I see right through as though it were glass.




I ask again, please leave religion out of it. There is another forum for that. Here, suffice to call it "fascist" or "corporate" media please.

I have no qualms with anyone who wishes to believe in or follow a religious teaching, it works for some, but this is a political forum, not a "religious" one.

We are seeing the results of such actions affecting many segments of our culture in bad ways enough already.

Talk about Hobby Lobby or the Little Sisters of Mercy, fine, that's current events, and about 1st amendment rights, but please, don't adulterate the other threads with unrelated ideology others have the right to find offensive.


Religion? Religious? Huh? What?

Oh wait...yeah, I guess Satanism could be considered a "religion". Satanism being the only "religion" practiced by the various media outlets in America.


You mentioned that before on your ...L.A. Sheriff's Deputies Mistakenly Kill Tosh 2.0 Production Assistant...thread, but I didn't understand you.

An "anti-Christ" is an atheist, Sojourning_Soul. "Anti-Christ media" means an atheist media.

Not a "religious media".

Sorry for any confusion.


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Fri 04/11/14 01:52 PM
FAUX is better? LOL

NONE of the anti-Christ media outlets in America are worth a plugged nickel. Many if not most of the anti-Christ media outlets in Europe are not worth a plugged nickel either.

I can see though that practicing the false left/right paradigm and/or divide and conquer tactics are of paramount importance here. To some people.

It's a practice I see right through as though it were glass.


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Fri 04/11/14 01:36 PM
You should start facing the fact than many of you reading this will be shot (at) by someone who's salary you paid.

Now you all know, a la the movie Stalag 17, to dress your hostage like yourself and throw them out the door in front of the swat~ters.







Just ONE question though?

If they mistook Winkler for the assailant, why is the other hostage the recipient of a bullet?

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Fri 04/11/14 01:24 PM
During the 19th century: Cattle Rustling was a hanging offense in Nevada; might be interesting to see if capital punishment for cattle rustling was ever repealed in the State of Nevada.

Respondeat superior

[Latin, Let the master answer.] A common-law doctrine that makes an employer liable for the actions of an employee when the actions take place within the scope of employment.

The common-law doctrine of respondeat superior was established in seventeenth-century England to define the legal liability of an employer for the actions of an employee. The doctrine was adopted in the United States and has been a fixture of agency law. It provides a better chance for an injured party to actually recover damages, because under respondeat superior the employer is liable for the injuries caused by an employee who is working within the scope of his employment relationship.The legal relationship between an employer and an employee is called agency. The employer is called the principal when engaging someone to act for him. The person who does the work for the employer is called the agent. The theory behind respondeat superior is that the principal controls the agent's behavior and must then assume some responsibility for the agent's actions.

An employee is an agent for her employer to the extent that the employee is authorized to act for the employer and is partially entrusted with the employer's business. The employer controls, or has a right to control, the time, place, and method of doing work. When the facts show that an employer-employee (principal-agent) relationship exists, the employer can be held responsible for the injuries caused by the employee in the course of employment.

In general, employee conduct that bears some relationship to the work will usually be considered within the scope of employment. The question whether an employee was acting within the scope of employment at the time of the event depends on the particular facts of the case. A court may consider the employee's job description or assigned duties, the time, place, and purpose of the employee's act, the extent to which the employee's actions conformed to what she was hired to do, and whether such an occurrence could reasonably have been expected.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Respondeat+Superior

Might just be; Harry Reid has committed a capital offense in the State of Nevada.


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Fri 04/11/14 08:40 AM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Fri 04/11/14 08:42 AM
Socialist Party of America Releases The Names of 70 Democrat Members Of Congress Who Are Members Of Their Caucus

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A socialist is someone who has read Lenin and Marx. An anti-socialist is someone who understands Lenin and Marx.

~ Ronald Reagan

By Gary P Jackson

This should come as a surprise to absolutely no one. The radical Marxist-progressives (communists) took control of the democrat party some time ago. They'��ve only become more emboldened with the election of Barack Obama, who was raised as a communist from birth.

With their new found leader, Barack Obama, the Socialist Party of America felt secure enough to announce the names of 70 democrats in Congress that belong to their caucus. This was recently posted on Scribd.com:

American Socialist Voter��

Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?

A: Seventy

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?

A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez, Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?

A: See the listing below

Co-Chairs

Hon. Ral M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs

Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members

Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members

Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)

Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)

Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)

Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)

Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)

Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)

Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)

Hon. Andre Carson (IN-07)

Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)

Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)

Hon. William ��Lacy�� Clay (MO-01)

Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)

Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)

Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)

Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)

Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)

Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)

Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)

Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)

Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)

Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)

Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)

Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)

Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)

Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)

Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)

Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)

Hon. John Hall (NY-19)

Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)

Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)

Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)

Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)

Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)

Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)

Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)

Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)

Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)

Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)

Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)

Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)

Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)

Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)

Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)

Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)

Hon. George Miller (CA-07)

Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)

Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)

Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)

Hon. John Olver (MA-01)

Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)

Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)

Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)

Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)

Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)

Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)

Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)

Hon. Linda Sanchez (CA-47)

Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)

Hon. Jose Serrano (NY-16)

Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)

Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)

Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)

Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)

Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)

Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)

Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)

Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)

Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)

Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

Though I'��m sure you'��ll recognize many names on the list, one notable is Pete Stark who recently told members in his district that the federal government can do pretty much anything it feels like:

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/socialist-party-of-america-releases-the-names-of-70-democrat-members-of-congress-who-are-members-of-their-caucus/

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Fri 04/11/14 08:37 AM
Here are the 46 senators who voted to give your rights to the U.N. (Notice they're all Demoncraps....but 2 Indies!)

Baldwin (D-WI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)

Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)

Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin(D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)

Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

I may have missed a few crypto's in that traitorous bunch but the ones I bolded are especially poisonous when it comes to gun control legislation.

Everytime 0bama stages an event; those Senators are always the first to start whining for more gun control.

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Fri 04/11/14 08:02 AM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Fri 04/11/14 08:09 AM
A continuation of the OP is found at...http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Al-Sharpton-918273

At a press conference yesterday at his Harlem headquarters, Sharpton claimed that Gambino soldier Joseph ��"Joe Bananas"�� Buonanno set up the meeting at which Pisello threatened his life. In his autobiography, Sharpton reported that Pisello traveled from Los Angeles to New York to threaten him. The book, however, makes no mention of Buonanno, who is deceased, or his purported role in facilitating Pisello'��s alleged death threat.

Sharpton did not bother to tell reporters how he knew Buonanno in the first place. Buonanno had been involved in the record industry for decades, and was business partners with Robert Curington, a convicted felon who also happened to be a close associate of Sharpton's (and a vice president of the reverend's not-for-profit National Youth Movement).



Concerned for his safety, Sharpton claims that he called the FBI in early-1984 and reported the Pisello encounter. In short order, the reverend began cooperating with federal agents. Spurred by the threat, Sharpton says he taped a series of ten face-to-face meetings with Buonanno--but not Pisello, the hoodlum who allegedly threatened the activist'��s life.

Those Sharpton recordings--made with an FBI-issued briefcase containing a hidden recording device--spanned a three-month period beginning in April 1984, according to FBI records.

As Sharpton spun out this tale Tuesday, he claimed to have detailed the Mafia death threat in his 1986 book ��Go And Tell Pharaoh. He dismissed TSG's review of this period of his life as old news since he had purportedly already written the story himself years ago.

However, while Sharpton's book does refer to a menacing gangster named Sal, Buonanno does not rate a single mention. Additionally, Sharpton'��s problems with ��Sal appear to have been settled quickly--and in the activist's favor, according to the book.

So, if Pisello was the hood who purportedly threatened Sharpton'��s life, why did the FBI direct the reverend to surreptitiously record Buonanno on 10 separate occasions? Because those recordings had nothing to do with the alleged Pisello threat, according to several law enforcement sources. In fact, two investigators said they could recall no connection between Buonanno and Pisello (who was never charged with threatening Sharpton).

Sharpton's story, built on a narrative conflation, is preposterous. He wants viewers and journalists to believe that the FBI, upon being told about Pisello's death threat, sent the reverend out wired to record another guy. Ten times.

Here is what actually happened:

Sharpton began cooperating with the FBI in mid-1983. So he had actually been working as a confidential informant for about nine months before Pisello'��s purported threat, an encounter that Sharpton now falsely claims prompted him to first contact federal agents (and subsequently begin recording Buonanno).

The reverend was ��flipped by FBI agents three months after he was filmed in March 1983 (during a bureau sting) talking cocaine with an undercover agent. On a Thursday afternoon in June 1983, Sharpton showed up at a Manhattan apartment expecting to meet again with the undercover agent, who was posing as a former South American druglord seeking to launder money through boxing promotions



Instead, Sharpton was confronted by FBI agents who showed him the ��cocaine videotape. The panicked reverend agreed--on the spot--to cooperate with federal agents, according to sources familiar with the contents of Sharpton'��s FBI informant file.

At the direction of his FBI handlers, Sharpton initially recorded conversations with boxing promoter Don King, who was the principal target of Crown Royal, the FBI undercover operation that had ensnared Sharpton in March 1983.

The date that Sharpton began cooperating is further fixed in a July 1984 draft of a wiretap affidavit. That document, sworn by an FBI agent, referred to Sharpton as ��CI-7, short for confidential informant #7. The description of CI-7�� noted that he had been providing information to the bureau for in excess of one year. CI-7, the document reported, had made a series of surreptitious recordings of Buonanno discussing a variety of Mafia business.

Sharpton wants the public to believe that he used his FBI valise to secretly record a wiseguy---over and over and over again--because another wiseguy threatened his life. Oh, he has also claimed that these mafioso were allegedly oppressing black recording artists, too.

So, that being the case, the FBI summaries of Sharpton'��s meetings with Buonanno must be filled with references to threats directed at the civil rights leader. Surely Sharpton would have asked Buonanno something like, Joe, why does your friend Sal want me dead? Or even, Joe, when you set up that meeting with Sal, did you know that he was going to threaten to clip me? Maybe Sharpton would even take the opportunity to try and extract details of the mob'��s pernicious influence on minority performers.



Strangely, though, the bureau summaries contain no such information. In fact, they read as if the two men were old friends, amiably discussing topics like extortion, murder, ��made men, and a guy named ��Chin. Buonanno even told Sharpton about his eighth-grade education and his birthday. Somehow Sharpton--who appeared remarkably comfortable with the wiseguy--was able to hide any signs of duress, despite that supposed death threat hanging over his processed head.

As TSG reported earlier this week, Sharpton’s involvement with Buonanno--a supposed facilitator of Mafia death threats--did not cease after his briefcase was switched off.

In fact, several years later, when Sharpton and Curington were seeking to collect a six-figure consulting fee owed to them by Joe Robinson, founder of Sugar Hill Records, ��Joe Bana was one of several hoodlums who showed up unannounced at the label'��s New Jersey office. The hoodlums threatened Robinson over the money owed to Sharpton and Curington, whom the Drug Enforcement Administration once termed a ��Class 1 narcotics trafficker.

After Robinson complained to police about the mob muscle pressuring him, a local cop kept an eye out for wiseguys arriving at Sugar Hill��s headquarters. One day, Detective Edward Stempinski of the Englewood Police Department caught Buonanno and a Genovese crime family figure at Sugar Hill. Stempinski, now retired, recalled that the wiseguys ��didn't look like they should be going into a rapper's studio.

So while Sharpton now links Buonanno to Pisello, Joe Bana was apparently an acceptable debt collector even after supposedly helping expedite a Mafia death threat. Perhaps the reverend consulted the Bible (Colossians 3:13), which advises, Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.

As he closed his PoliticsNation show yesterday, Sharpton claimed that he approached the FBI to try to protect myself and others,�� adding that, I was an American citizen with every right to call law enforcement. He also declared, We must live in a country where people can call law enforcement and not be castigated.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/informant-al-sharpton

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Al-Sharpton-918273

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Fri 04/11/14 07:29 AM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Fri 04/11/14 07:31 AM


Sharpton Caught in Bald-Faced Cocaine Lie ...

Facts Derail Lying Sharpton's Informant Tale

Former FBI Mafia snitch spins fabricated story of "CI-7" work


APRIL 9--In a desperate effort to explain away his work as a paid government informant, the Rev. Al Sharpton yesterday claimed that he first ran into the FBI's arms after his life was threatened by gangsters, an incident that prompted him to then record 10 face-to-face encounters with one of those dangerous hoodlums.

That story is a lie.


This is how you can tell Sharpton is lying...his mouth is open.

In fact, Sharpton's fabricated tale is belied by FBI records that provide a clear account of when and why he began working as a cooperating informant. After unveiling his fable at a morning press conference, Sharpton repeated his claims last night at the close of his ��PoliticsNation�� show on MSNBC, where fact checkers and bosses alike do not appear concerned with the truthfulness of the host'��s off- and on-air pronouncements.

By tampering with the chronology of--and motive for--his enlistment as an FBI informant, Sharpton is furiously attempting to cast that cooperation in the most favorable light possible. He was not a rat or a snitch, Sharpton protests. In fact, the reverend contends that he was not even aware the FBI considered him an informant. The money he was paid by his FBI handler? Well, that was just reimbursements for carfare, Sharpton claims. As he explained to MSNBC viewers, Sharpton was just a victim looking for Uncle Sam's protection and intervention.

Sharpton contends that he first contacted the FBI in early-1984, immediately after his life was threatened by Salvatore Pisello, a wiseguy with music industry connections. As Sharpton tells it, Pisello was incensed that the activist was threatening to stage boycotts and demonstrations unless black promoters were given a piece of the upcoming ��Victory Tour featuring Michael Jackson and his brothers.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/10/sharpton-caught-bald-faced-cocaine-lie

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Fri 04/11/14 07:02 AM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Fri 04/11/14 07:05 AM
Liberals have been fooled by the govt's desert tortoise cover story as they were intended to be fooled...myself, I look at the BIG PICTURE; i.e. geo-politics.

Replacing Russian Gas Deliveries with US Shale Gas? Washington Lies to the EU

The White House and State Department have engaged in brazen lying to EU governments regarding the ability of the US to supply more than enough natural gas to replace Russian gas deliveries. Recent statements by US President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry are so patently false that it betrays an incredible desperation in Washington over the situation in Ukraine versus Moscow. Or it suggests that Washington is so out of touch with any factual reality it simply doesn'��t care what it says. Either way, it suggests an unreliable diplomatic partner for the EU.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/replacing-russian-gas-deliveries-with-us-shale-gas-washington-lies-to-the-eu/5377358

The BLM is selling oil leases across the west to the fracking companies. This may well be the real motive to drive Cliven Bundy off of his ranch, and we are now getting word that similar BLM moves against ranchers are happening not only elsewhere in Nevada but in Colorado.

So it looks like the US Government is going to turn the nation over to the frackers so they have enough gas to move their war agenda forward.

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Fri 04/11/14 06:47 AM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Fri 04/11/14 06:51 AM

protesters have the right to assemble & are in fact defacto stakeholders in public lands as is any CITIZEN in the U.S. So interference with a legal & peaceful gathering in protest is arguably a concern and probably illegal.

It is the BLM's job to balance the varied entities with an interest in the use and disposition of public lands. There is no reason that natural gas fracturing should prevent grazing, or harm tortises or cattle or horses. There will be an environmental impact because they will need to build roads. The well pads themselves will not take up much space. Water quality and earthquakes are the real issues. And, fracturing should be put on hold until further studies are done/ information is gathered regarding existing concerns in other parts of the country (where i live in Ohio, for instance) before fracturing is continued. In fact public land use requires environmental impact studies. The true focus should be on obtaining that/ making sure it is completed and disclosed in full. Thankfully we have the right to request an impact statement and comment in the federal administrations comment period. Those things are probably at least as useful as protests. Facts, not reactionary vomiting, will have an influence.

I really do not see how they can fracture out west. It takes millions of gallons of water. Where fracturing occurs out west they use a higher percentage of recycled water than we do here, and Ohio needs to look at that/ adopt that practice. Water is not infinite and no single entity should be permitted to compromise clean water interests that affect the rest of us.

My impression was that the bundy grazing issue had to do with wild horses. I do side with the BLM on that matter and agree within their jurisdiction on BLM lands. There are records that record the boundaries. Both Mr Bundy and the BLM need to observe those boundaries. No one is "automatically" guaranteed unlimited access to public lands, especially if it is determined by their legal administrators that the use compromises the interests too greatly of other stakeholders. Just because he has always "done it this way" is not a good enough reason to continue any particular practice on public lands for ANYONE (not just Bundy). We all eat too much beef anyway.


This has nothing to do with a tortoise. In fact, the Bureau of Land Management has been killing those tortoises themselves due to lack of funding for the conservation center!

http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/archives/1561-BLM-to-kill-hundreds-of-desert-tortoises-as-its-conservation-center-runs-out-of-money.html

A far more likely reason BLM wants that land is that BLM has been selling fracking leases to oil companies in that part of the state!

BLM sells 29 oil, gas leases in northeast Nevada

RENO, Nev. (AP) �� Buyers snapped up 29 federal land leases totaling more than 56 square miles in a northeastern Nevada area.

This could become the state's first oil shale fracking site.

U.S. Bureau of Land Management geologist Lorenzo Trimble tells the Las Vegas Review-Journal the Elko County oil and gas leases sold Tuesday for $1.27 million to six different companies.

The auction took place in Reno. The leases are near where Houston-based Noble Energy Inc. wants to drill for oil and natural gas on 40,000 acres of public and private land near the town of Wells.

The Review-Journal reports the project would be the first in Nevada to use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, to extract oil and gas from shale deposits.

The BLM is conducting an environmental review of Noble's proposal.

http://m.shalereporter.com/industry/article_0de547ba-8ca4-11e2-ab4e-0019bb30f31a.html

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Thu 04/10/14 10:41 PM
The designated scapegoat falls on her sword for Emperor 0bama!

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Thu 04/10/14 10:20 PM
Name of thrower not released, probably staged to gain Hillary support with great comeback lines, probably all set up in advance.

This goes to follow up the stupid 6 year old that tweeted Hillary asking if she should call her Mrs. President or Madam President.

0 and 2

Bush and Clinton neither one can catch worth a darn.

Even though Hillary said "Thank goodness she didn't play softball like she did"

If it was not staged I hope the Woman has her life insurance paid up, people who insult the Clinton's often end up dead.

Also the man who threw a shoe at bush had his Arm broken during his imprisonment. If the woman Shoe thrower was not paid to do this as a stunt, she better get her name and story out there fast or she will probably vanish into the abyss.

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Thu 04/10/14 10:11 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Thu 04/10/14 10:12 PM
Could BLM leaseholds for fracking operations be the reason for recent Bundy Ranch standoff?

The same bureaucracy that sold dozens of land leases to fracking companies last year is responsible for the recent Bundy Ranch standoff


By John Vibes

BUNKERVILLE, NEVADA (INTELLIHUB) Earlier today, we reported on the intense standoff that is taking place at Bundy Ranch, where a rancher'��s land has been surrounded by federal agents who are seeking to forcibly remove his livestock from disputed land.

The dispute has been initiated by a bureaucracy called The U.S. Bureau of Land Management, or BLM . Since 1993, the federal agency has been attempting to annex areas of land that have been occupied by the same family of ranchers for many generations. The land was occupied by this family well before the creation of the agency in 1946.

In the most recent showdown between the BLM and the Bundy family, large groups of protesters have gathered in support of the ranchers. During the protests, police can be seen on film throwing pregnant women to the ground, setting dogs loose on people for no reason, and using tasers on people who were attempting to ask questions.

The Bundys are not the only ones who have been harassed by this federal agency. Since its inception, the BLM'��s primary goal has been to claim large areas of land for the government, so it can then either be sold or used for military bases. Many times these plots of land are sold to corporations and even other governments.

Just last year it was reported that the BLM sold 29 federal land leases which covered more than 56 square miles in northeast Nevada. The agency itself reported that the oil and gas leases in Elko County sold for $1.27 million to six different companies.

Every single one of these leases were purchased under the pretense that they would be used for natural gas fracking, a process that is known to contaminate water supplies and destroy local ecosystems. The BLM claims that they are seizing land to preserve it, for environmental protection. However, it is obvious that environmental protection is not their goal if they are selling large areas of land to fracking companies.

Although the land that was sold last year is 300 some miles away from Bundy ranch, the aggressive tactics that have been used by federal agents in this situation is raising the suspicion that this is another BLM land grab that is destined for a private auction.

http://intellihub.com/blm-leaseholds-fracking-operations-reason-recent-bundy-ranch-standoff/

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Thu 04/10/14 07:19 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Thu 04/10/14 07:21 PM
Look at the bio of the new director of the BLM and what is going on here is going to be very obvious.

He is getting the ranchers off the land so they can develop the property for solar power. When he was working with Sunpower in California they did the same thing. He managed to get LA county "nuisance abatement teams" to throw people off their property for code violations and forced them to sell to solar power projects.

The guy is a political science major, was an "international election monitor", then senior adviser to Harry Reid but before being Reid's adviser, he worked at kicking people off their land for solar power projects.

"Kornze was a key player in the development of the Western Solar Plan and the agency's successful authorization of more than 10,000 megawatts of renewable energy, surpassing a congressionally-established goal 3 years ahead of schedule."

They did this in part by kicking people off their land or using various "threatened species" to prevent people developing the land for any other purpose.

AND...

Release Date: 12/10/13
Contacts: Chris Rose , 775-861-6480 , crose@bml.gov
News Release No. 2014-007

BLM Oil and Gas Sale Results

Reno, Nev. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) generated $1,979,581 during its quarterly oil and gas competitive lease sale held in Reno on December 10, selling 54 parcels that comprised 93,816 acres. The sale high bid of $135,044 for a 2,548-acre parcel at $53 per acre was made by Housing Int., LLC., of Belvedere, California, for a parcel in Nye County. The high bid per acre was $54 by Contex Energy Co. for a 983.78-acre parcel in Nye County.

The lease is for a period of 10 years with annual rentals of $1.50 per acre for the first five years and $2 an acre after that until production begins. Once a lease is producing, a royalty of 12.5 percent is charged. Half of the bid and rental receipts go to the state of Nevada. The BLM offered 178 parcels totaling 303,334 acres.

Wait..how much? an acre in NYE county? 53 bucks an acre..and leased back at 1.50 an acre per year?

The next quarterly competitive oil and gas lease sale is scheduled for April 15, 2014. The sale will feature parcels in the BLM's Elko District.

The BLM manages more than 245 million acres of public land, the most of any Federal agency. This land, known as the National System of Public Lands, is primarily located in 12 Western states, including Alaska.

The BLM also administers 700 million acres of sub-surface mineral estate throughout the nation.

The BLM's mission is to manage and conserve the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations under our mandate of multiple-use and sustained yield. In Fiscal Year 2013, the BLM generated $4.7 billion in receipts from public lands.

--BLM--

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Thu 04/10/14 06:56 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Thu 04/10/14 07:00 PM
About Time! Both Gov. Brian Sandoval and Sen. Dean Heller Stands Up To Federal Bureau Of Land Management

US Senator Joins Critics of Federal Cattle Roundup...A Republican U.S. senator added his voice Wednesday to critics of a federal cattle roundup fought by a Nevada rancher who claims longstanding grazing rights on remote public rangeland about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas

Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada said he told new U.S. Bureau of Land Management chief Neil Kornze in Washington, D.C., that law-abiding Nevadans shouldn't be penalized by an "overreaching" agency.

Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval pointed earlier to what he called "an atmosphere of intimidation," resulting from the roundup and said he believed constitutional rights were being trampled.

Heller said he heard from local officials, residents and the Nevada Cattlemen's Association.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/nevada-governor-decries-blm-rancher-dispute-23265149

Both Gov. Brian Sandoval and Sen. Dean Heller have condemned the BLS for what they characterize as heavy-handed actions involving Bundy and other Silver State residents.

No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans, Sandoval, a Republican, said. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/07/nevada-officials-blast-feds-over-treatment-cattle-rancher-cliven-bundy/

It's not over, by a long shot.

"They" are trying to pacify people, to keep it quiet. But we need to keep shouting, exposing to america how they are terrorizing this family. If no one opposes this tyranny, it will never stop-----



SHARE Every story, every video of the confrontation needs to be
shared far and wide, write about it, comment, email those that have not heard, post to Facebook groups, Twitter, and all the other social networking sites.

CALL�� The Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval issued a statement of concern over the free speech area set up by the federal government, Rangers, BLM and other agents, but he hasn'��t got off his behind to show up in support of Mr. Bundy��.. call his office and express your outrage over what these terrorists in the US government are doing to him.

Call the Senator, the sheriff ’s office, every media outlet you can
think of that is NOT reporting this situation.

EMAIL: Follow up with emailing all of the above entities, encourage your friends and family to do the same.

Bureau Of Land Management Phone Number: (202) 208-3801

Brian Sandoval – Carson City Phone # (775) 684-5670

Brian Sandoval Las Vegas Phone # -(702) 486-2500

Phone #s For Heller�� Reno: 775-686-5770/ Las Vegas: 702-388-6605/
Washington: 202-224-6244

Sheriff Douglas Gillespi (702) 828-3231 or (702) 828 - 3111

Email: Sheriff@lvmpd.com

Steny Hoyer: Phone (202)- 225-4131