Topic: The non-negotiables
TessMac's photo
Thu 03/26/09 04:56 PM


Everyone has them.... our set standards that we refuse to let go of . What are your 5 non-negotiables when it comes to meeting someone?

Here's mine

1.) He most have a job. I am supporting NO man

2.) I don't really dig criminals and honestly I won't date a guy who has been in prison.

3.) He has to be taller than me (I have attitude about height lol)

4.) He has to be independant. I enjoy spending time with my mate but I really hate men who are co-dependant and "need" to be with me all the time.

5.) He must be able to make me laugh. And not some cheesy little girl giggle I want the full on tears in the eyes kind of laughter.



Sweetie, with the way the economy is right now, U might wanna rethink a couple of those. Not every man that's unemployed is a lazy bum lookin for a woman to support him, especially right now. Nor has every man that's been in jail unworthy of a 2nd chance. shades

How true! Alot of people are unemployed and not by choice. And not every man that has been convicted is guilty -- ever hear of the Innocence Project? drinker

Adamal29's photo
Thu 03/26/09 04:58 PM
Must not be heavyset
Must like to get out of the house
Must not worry about what I am doing with my life
Must be honest
Must like to rock

njmom05's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:06 PM



Diplomacy has never been my strong suit (never would've guessed, huh?), but perhaps an example of how to word it differently would be something like, "I have children. They have needs. I would appreciate the assistance, but if this is not what you are interested in, I understand. Unfortunately, we might not make a good match, but I wish you good fortune in your further endeavors."





While the ultimate intent of "I have kids and I'm really only looking for someone who can accept that they are the major focus of my life" and "I am a single mother of two kids and they are my world and if you don't like it, then get lost" may, in fact, be the same, there is something to be said for the palatability of the delivery.




I don't mean to butt in here, but I actually dated a guy a few years back who didn't want kids! Umm hello, I have a child. He thought I should put my son up for adoption so him and I could be together without the burden of my child.
DUH!!!!!!!!!!

Jess642's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:09 PM
Must be real.

Must be capable of speaking their truth..( how do you believe someone who says I love you, if they spend their whole time just being fluffy...ie; 'oh that's nice', 'yes dear, you look lovely','you are so right'...) Give me someone who can stand up and say, 'Lee, that's not right', 'you look a bloody mess!', 'that is utter crap!'... I know when he says I look great, it is his truth... when he says I love you, I know IN THAT MOMENT, it is his truth.

Must be real
Must be real
Must be real.

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:15 PM




Diplomacy has never been my strong suit (never would've guessed, huh?), but perhaps an example of how to word it differently would be something like, "I have children. They have needs. I would appreciate the assistance, but if this is not what you are interested in, I understand. Unfortunately, we might not make a good match, but I wish you good fortune in your further endeavors."





While the ultimate intent of "I have kids and I'm really only looking for someone who can accept that they are the major focus of my life" and "I am a single mother of two kids and they are my world and if you don't like it, then get lost" may, in fact, be the same, there is something to be said for the palatability of the delivery.




I don't mean to butt in here, but I actually dated a guy a few years back who didn't want kids! Umm hello, I have a child. He thought I should put my son up for adoption so him and I could be together without the burden of my child.
DUH!!!!!!!!!!



Well, I would see that as a totally extreme case. He was being unrealistic and selfish in that particular instance, and I would be a little leery of any mother who would actually consider putting a man before her own child. And, yes, I have run into that situation a few times. But rarely.

Maybe it's just me, but I automatically assume that a woman with a child (or children) is going to make him, her, or them her FIRST priority. That just makes sense to me. If they're NOT her first priority, then that raises some serious questions for me.

But from the standpoint of someone who doesn't want kids, and who doesn't want to date anyone with kids, I do find it puzzling as to why so many single mothers are so vehement in the way they express their disdain for men who don't want to deal with women who have kids.

All I have to see is "single mother" or "I have kids" or something along those lines, and I'm out of there. The "....and if you don't like it, you can go impale yourself on the big spiked fence outside of St. Mathias Church" stuff is just overkill.




no photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:19 PM

Everyone has them.... our set standards that we refuse to let go of . What are your 5 non-negotiables when it comes to meeting someone?


1- Must be responsible.
2- Must NOT be flaky or otherwise unstable in some way.
3- Must be respectful, not only to me, but to herself as well.
4- Must know what she wants and not resort to jerkin' me around when she doesn't.
5- Must... uh... er... like cheese? laugh

Mr_Music's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:24 PM

Must be real.

Must be capable of speaking their truth..( how do you believe someone who says I love you, if they spend their whole time just being fluffy...ie; 'oh that's nice', 'yes dear, you look lovely','you are so right'...) Give me someone who can stand up and say, 'Lee, that's not right', 'you look a bloody mess!', 'that is utter crap!'... I know when he says I look great, it is his truth... when he says I love you, I know IN THAT MOMENT, it is his truth.

Must be real
Must be real
Must be real.


You're asking for too much, Lee. Skip it.

njmom05's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:27 PM
Edited by njmom05 on Thu 03/26/09 05:28 PM





Diplomacy has never been my strong suit (never would've guessed, huh?), but perhaps an example of how to word it differently would be something like, "I have children. They have needs. I would appreciate the assistance, but if this is not what you are interested in, I understand. Unfortunately, we might not make a good match, but I wish you good fortune in your further endeavors."





While the ultimate intent of "I have kids and I'm really only looking for someone who can accept that they are the major focus of my life" and "I am a single mother of two kids and they are my world and if you don't like it, then get lost" may, in fact, be the same, there is something to be said for the palatability of the delivery.




I don't mean to butt in here, but I actually dated a guy a few years back who didn't want kids! Umm hello, I have a child. He thought I should put my son up for adoption so him and I could be together without the burden of my child.
DUH!!!!!!!!!!



Well, I would see that as a totally extreme case. He was being unrealistic and selfish in that particular instance, and I would be a little leery of any mother who would actually consider putting a man before her own child. And, yes, I have run into that situation a few times. But rarely.

Maybe it's just me, but I automatically assume that a woman with a child (or children) is going to make him, her, or them her FIRST priority. That just makes sense to me. If they're NOT her first priority, then that raises some serious questions for me.

But from the standpoint of someone who doesn't want kids, and who doesn't want to date anyone with kids, I do find it puzzling as to why so many single mothers are so vehement in the way they express their disdain for men who don't want to deal with women who have kids.

All I have to see is "single mother" or "I have kids" or something along those lines, and I'm out of there. The "....and if you don't like it, you can go impale yourself on the big spiked fence outside of St. Mathias Church" stuff is just overkill.





I agree some women go to the extreme about their kids what they write. My son's father never sees him, so for someone like me, I realized dating is an impossibility so I changed my profile. But this is all my profile says about my child:

"My son is 9 and has special needs, if you aren't willing to accept both of us, please keep looking."

To me, thats not out of line, especially after the one psycho I dated, I just want men to understand he is a big part of my life.

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:33 PM

I agree some women go to the extreme about their kids what they write. My son's father never sees him, so for someone like me, I realized dating is an impossibility so I changed my profile. But this is all my profile says about my child:

"My son is 9 and has special needs, if you aren't willing to accept both of us, please keep looking."

To me, thats not out of line, especially after the one psycho I dated, I just want men to understand he is a big part of my life.


I don't think that's out of line, either. And you have every right to make it clear what you want and what you don't want.



s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:40 PM
be a wonderful human being
loving and kind
playful and irreverent
smart and upbeat




huskydogowner's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:43 PM
1. Must have pulse
2. Must have factory girl parts. No add ons, no conversions.
3. Must let little crap go.
4. Must want physical relationship.
5. Must lack the need to know what I'm thinking and feeling
constantly.

ReddBeans's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:47 PM

What sort of invitation? Would u have a suggestion on how to reword? shades


Well, just from my own personal perspective, it comes across as an invitation to gentlemen who do not WANT to have kids within the relationship. "If you don't want kids in your life, then keep on steppin'." Well, okay! Color me gone!

To that end, to a certain extent, I can't really say I blame them. There are many men who don't want the added attraction of kids interfering in a budding relationship. Truth be told, more often than not, they are a tremendous strain on trying to get a romance to blossom. This is NOT intended to be a blanket statement, and granted, it's a sure bet that there ARE men who have no problem with kids. Either way, it's a crapshoot at best. Some folks like the idea of a pre-existing built-in family. Others prefer not to have to deal with the attention diversion, the ex, extra expenses, etc.

I'm just sayin'.

Diplomacy has never been my strong suit (never would've guessed, huh?), but perhaps an example of how to word it differently would be something like, "I have children. They have needs. I would appreciate the assistance, but if this is not what you are interested in, I understand. Unfortunately, we might not make a good match, but I wish you good fortune in your further endeavors."

Okay, maybe not so wordy (not to worry, though -- most would have severe difficulty considering this route). I just enjoy utilizing my education. That's how I roll.




I have no issue with men who don't want to be involved with a single Mom. I say more power to ya for knowin what u want an don't want. I commend any man who knows that he doesn't want to be involved with someone with children an will steer clear of them. drinker

In all honestly my sayin 'If you don't want kids in ur life, keep on steppin' is just how I roll. I'm blunt an to the point. I don't see the point of sugar coatin. shades

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:54 PM


Everyone has them.... our set standards that we refuse to let go of . What are your 5 non-negotiables when it comes to meeting someone?


1- Must be responsible.
2- Must NOT be flaky or otherwise unstable in some way.
3- Must be respectful, not only to me, but to herself as well.
4- Must know what she wants and not resort to jerkin' me around when she doesn't.
5- Must... uh... er... like cheese? laugh


mmmm cheese

longislandangel's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:03 PM
Honesty,
chemistry,
passion,
and a sense of humor.

Mr_Music's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:22 PM
In all honestly my sayin 'If you don't want kids in ur life, keep on steppin' is just how I roll. I'm blunt an to the point. I don't see the point of sugar coatin. shades


Do your thang, girl!

Jess642's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:25 PM


Must be real.

Must be capable of speaking their truth..( how do you believe someone who says I love you, if they spend their whole time just being fluffy...ie; 'oh that's nice', 'yes dear, you look lovely','you are so right'...) Give me someone who can stand up and say, 'Lee, that's not right', 'you look a bloody mess!', 'that is utter crap!'... I know when he says I look great, it is his truth... when he says I love you, I know IN THAT MOMENT, it is his truth.

Must be real
Must be real
Must be real.


You're asking for too much, Lee. Skip it.


I have it.

In my friends, my children, my 'One great Love', they are real, and not afraid to be it. It's why I can respect them...because they are authentic.

Jess642's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:26 PM

be a wonderful human being
loving and kind
playful and irreverent
smart and upbeat






SO....do you need my C.V? bigsmile pitchfork


:wink: laugh

s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:04 PM
no, you have excellent references!! bigsmile

atlgirl2828's photo
Fri 03/27/09 05:42 AM
Let's see....I think I agree that each person has their own situation however I believe mine would be

Must shower and brush teeth daily
Must have goals and dreams
Must be honest
Must have a desire to want to better themselves

The others we will work on! LOL

drinker Hope everyone has a Fantastic Friday!

citygurl's photo
Fri 03/27/09 10:34 AM
No Drugs
No Violence

Other than that, I'm negotiable bigsmile