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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 05/20/09 10:42 PM
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Everything in this universe so far as can be shown to exist - including that which has been 'created' by us like the term itself - is a derivative from some combination of foundational elements which existed far before mankind. Therefore we cannot be responsible for their existence. I am not surprised that this is your logical answer. You define your self as a human being in a human body. I define myself as a spiritual being who has existed as consciousness longer than this reality. So I guess we are way on a different page. But I do understand your reasoning if that is where you are coming from. |
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Wed 05/20/09 10:54 PM
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I believe that that is close enough and sums up the foundational difference...
It is a matter of reason and logic for some, and faith for others. No rights nor wrongs.  Universal laws are defined under logic and reason though, not just unprovable belief... faith. |
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To get all hung up on these trivial details in the face of a universal truth tends to only stunt your spiritual growth, so I don't do it.  How is this any different from what the Christians claim? Just think about what you said here and rearrange just a couple of words,... To get all hung up on these trivial details in the face of the universal truth that the Bible is the word of God tends to only stunt your spiritual growth, so I don't do it. I have absolutely no problem at all with your religious beliefs and faith. I've told you that all along. All I'm saying is that when the 'trivial details', as you call them, are examined closely they lead to solipsism if you accept the Law of Attraction to be true (as you've been presenting it), or they lead to the fact that it can't be true if you prefer to reject solipsism. That's all I'm saying. It's purely a logical observation. If you want to believe in the Law of Attraction on pure faith and ignore the details, then by all means, have at it. I never meant to pick on your religious beliefs. I'm just pointing out the logical flaws in it. From my point of view it requires solipsism in order to be as you describe it. I personally don't buy into solipsism, therefore, I find the "Law of Attraction" to be distasteful (as you describe it) So I guess that's my conclusion. |
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Edited by
ArtGurl
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Thu 05/21/09 01:53 AM
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 interesting movie ... I am enjoying it 
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Creative soul said"make something from nothing"
I made money by living my dreams of becoming a songwriter...nobody believed I could!It literally started out as"that is a dream son..you will never earn a living with a guitar..enough to support yourself" Guess what...I did..I am living now as I type this to you. Now that is one of a hundred different examples..on lesser and higher scales. How did I make that dream happen...I literally pretended everyday in my bedroom that I was a star.I sang in front of the mirror...I heard songs on the radio and pretended it was my success...I thought a million times aday...no matter what people think about following my dream..I will not be disturbed. It took awhile...but the universe conspired to send me all I needed to follow up....now..I am a songwriter on a payroll...living my dream.And now everyone say.."you got lucky" I don't question your beliefs creative soul...I believe your beliefs are quite real and exisist in your world.And you are right...our worlds are differnt here...but when all is said and done.When we leave here...you and I and everyone else return to the same place.The difference between me and you is..I realize that! |
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Edited by
salvatore35
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Thu 05/21/09 05:54 AM
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ArtGurl...glad you are enjoying the show...believe it or not though...you are also a player in this picture.Glad to see you showed up!
Love the smile! |
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Man..this is the most I've written about all this in a long time.
Creativesoul...can't you see we need one another to exsist here.With out opposits we could never be.How would we know hot if there wasn't cold..or how would we know up if there wasn't down.We are doing exactly what we are suppose to be doing here.Your thoughts would mean nothing on this subject if mine and others who thought like me thought these feelings.And vice versa.It is a delicious and beautiful game we are playing. I need you to disagree with me in order for me to realize my reality!Obstacles are all part of the LAW! So I thank you creative soul...for helping me to realize who I truly am and express it into my exsistance.You and I are God!Without you...I wouldn't be able to live that..I could realize it...but not know it experimentally! |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 05/21/09 07:11 AM
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If you want to believe in the Law of Attraction on pure faith and ignore the details, then by all means, have at it. I never meant to pick on your religious beliefs. I'm just pointing out the logical flaws in it. From my point of view it requires solipsism in order to be as you describe it. James you seem to purposely distort the issue with definitions of labels like solipsism, pantheism and Buddhism. I ignore your fussing over semantics of these labels and what they mean to you. None of that matters in the face of a universal truth that works for me. I don't need to get into that trivial blah blah blah. It is absolutely meaningless. You ask: "How is this any different from what the Christians claim?" I don't understand the point of question. I am not here to 'show you the way' to salvation James, or to present to you an alternative to your failed faith of the past. In fact, I thought you stormed out of this thread so I could finish "preaching" about the Law of Attraction. Why do you keep coming back? If you are so positive you are right about everything, you should be at peace with yourself and stop trying to disturb my peace. It ain't going to happen, James. I have absolutely no problem at all with your religious beliefs and faith. I've told you that all along. All I'm saying is that when the 'trivial details', as you call them, are examined closely they lead to solipsism if you accept the Law of Attraction to be true (as you've been presenting it), or they lead to the fact that it can't be true if you prefer to reject solipsism. Apparently you do have a problem with my beliefs and faith. YOu said: I never meant to pick on your religious beliefs. I'm just pointing out the logical flaws in it. From my point of view it requires solipsism in order to be as you describe it. If I need someone to point out what they think are flaws, I will be the first to ask your opinion. I am glad you have all that figured out about solipsism because i don't even THINK ABOUT IT. I reject your idea of what solipsism is because you define "self" as YOU... the human creature. If self is God, then solipsism makes sense. READ THAT AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET IT. But personally I DON'T GIVE A CRAP about any of those trivial semantic mental details. They are meaningless chewing gum for the brain. I am too busy being creative, I don't want to get into mental nitpicking and semantics. But I am really glad you have it all figured out now. Be at peace. Have Joy  |
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Salvatore wrote:
"You and I are God." Lucifer, thought the very exact same thing..... he believed he could BE GOD too!!!! |
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Salvatore wrote: "You and I are God." Lucifer, thought the very exact same thing..... he believed he could BE GOD too!!!! So they say.... But if all is God, as some believe, the that includes Lucifer. 
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Lucifer.....are you kidding me.You believe in the devil.Like I said dariling.You create your own reality...if you believe in a devil..than the devil believes in you.
You are God..whether you realize it now or in the next life! And seeing as you are God..let me tell you..I love you very very much! |
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So you see morning song..if i were the devil...would I love you as I do?
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To get all hung up on these trivial details in the face of a universal truth tends to only stunt your spiritual growth, so I don't do it. How is this any different from what the Christians claim? Just think about what you said here and rearrange just a couple of words,... To get all hung up on these trivial details in the face of the universal truth that the Bible is the word of God tends to only stunt your spiritual growth, so I don't do it. I have absolutely no problem at all with your religious beliefs and faith. I've told you that all along. All I'm saying is that when the 'trivial details', as you call them, are examined closely they lead to solipsism if you accept the Law of Attraction to be true (as you've been presenting it), or they lead to the fact that it can't be true if you prefer to reject solipsism. That's all I'm saying. It's purely a logical observation. If you want to believe in the Law of Attraction on pure faith and ignore the details, then by all means, have at it. I never meant to pick on your religious beliefs. I'm just pointing out the logical flaws in it. From my point of view it requires solipsism in order to be as you describe it. I personally don't buy into solipsism, therefore, I find the "Law of Attraction" to be distasteful (as you describe it) So I guess that's my conclusion. Why should details and truth get in the way of that? |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 05/21/09 08:27 AM
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Actually Bushidobillyclub you are right.
And what good is life if you don't feel good? Feeling good is one of the things that magnify the creative technique and make it work!! Don't sweat the small stuff! Don't get hung up on the details. Do what works in your life to live in joy, happiness, prosperity, Love, compassion, etc. In doing an oil painting, so many people get all caught up in the tiny details of a small part of the painting and forget the big picture. They don't look at the entire canvas, and they overwork some detail until it looks so crappy, they throw it out. It is the same with your life. People get all attached to who they think they are and they get all attached to their baggage and their beliefs and they nit pick the details and other people until they succeed only in making themselves annoyed or unhappy. If you want to live an analytical life and that makes you happy, then that is what you should do. If you want to live a creative life you don't want to get side tracked with other people's perceptions of reality. Everyone is an individual and they will forge their individual path through life in their own way. If you have confidence in your own path and in your own knowledge and beliefs, why do you question and protest other people's? I am what I am and I believe what I believe. I don't understand why that seems to annoy people. If you think I am a simple fool, then think it. I don't much care for understanding all the details of your mental processes and baggage that comes with it. I cannot find the words to express to you that it is only Love that binds us. Even if I knew all the secrets of the universe, I could not give them to you, because they will not get past your mental processes. Like a wall, they are a fortress against the simple truth. Love binds us. Love is life. Even that statement will be met with disdain. It makes me a little sad. But my joy is eternal. ______________________ I find this conversation draining and depressing, so I will take a break from this mind poison and turn my attention to a more positive project. ______________________ |
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If you are so positive you are right about everything, you should be at peace with yourself and stop trying to disturb my peace. It ain't going to happen, James. Disturb your peace?  I didn't realize I was doing that. Especially in light of your belief that only YOU can attract your reality. How could I disturb your peace if you aren't attracting it?  I should report you to the authorities and tell them, "That woman is making me disturb her peace!" If I need someone to point out what they think are flaws, I will be the first to ask your opinion. Sorry, I thought you were asking for opinions by putting it out for open discussion. I keep forgetting that this is an advertisement thread and you're just using the forums as a free bulletin board like the religious proselytizers do. Silly me. 
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 05/21/09 08:34 AM
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Disturb your peace? I didn't realize I was doing that You arn't. You are just "trying." You failed.  Peace
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interesting movie ... I am enjoying it I'm intrigued by the plot. Is Jeannniebean attracting all these posts into existence? Are we attracting Jeanniebean into existence? Did lucifer create this thread in an attempt to start a new religion in case his old one falls apart? Is Salavtore an angel of the wise, or a demon in disquise? Will MorningSong ever save the world? Will CreativeSoul ever meet an actual philosopher on the forums? What would the Buddha have to say about this thread? Would Jesus agree with JB or would he say, "Woe unto you, scribes and pharisees. Hypocrites!" Tune in next time for another exciting episode of,... General Attraction |
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If you want to live an analytical life and that makes you happy, then that is what you should do. I do both. If you want to live a creative life you don't want to get side tracked with other people's perceptions of reality. In my music I am analytical and creative. I try both what will produce a harmony, and dissonance and then choose which I like better completely subjective and beautiful. Its tough some times to know which to do when. |
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Do the hard questions ever get answered in this thread?
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Yes creative soul..i have answerd that growing up is never fun!I am constantly watching cartoons to keep myself in check.That is the truth by the way!
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