Jeannie is talking about changing her reality of her world....

not changing someone elses....which comes only from changing her

OWN thought life.

No body elses .



Pray the Very Best for Everyone here now.


Be Blessed Now ..Take Care All.


Jeannie...praying the Best for you , as you pursue your dreams now.

We each perceive the world differently. Our thoughts ... our belief systems affect our own perception. The only part of the equation we can control is us and our thinking. When that changes so does what we observe. So yes, we do create our own reality.



Sal - thank you! It is a pleasure to meet you

What is "world" to you? Your world? The Earth? Everyone's world? (meaning the whole earth?) Everyone's world meaning the whole universe? (I need an agreement on this premise in order to address the world vs universe question.)

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Yes you are correct; my thoughts change ME. (That is the first step in changing your (personal) world/reality.

If I change myself for the better (more into what I want to be..)..this change in me will draw me towards like minds and situations which are more in harmony with me and what I prefer and want. That is how thought changes my reality and my world.

Since I am the center of my universe, you can think of it as things being drawn to me. An observer might say that I am drawn to them; but that distinction does not matter. It is relative to a point of view. (Neither me or anything else is stationary. Everything moves.)

LOA simply states: That which is like unto itself is drawn.

Change yourself and you change your world, your universe. You are always the center of YOUR universe. Everyone is at the center of their universe.





I don't see any contradiction, but I do look at the Law from both the spiritual and the physical view point. If you only look at it from a purely physical point of view I can see where you find contradictions.

From the physical point of view, me, (the little self-in the human body) can use thoughts to effect my perceptions, (attitudes and how I see things and situations as positive or negative.. (or the the other way around.) The other way around is to allow what I see to effect my thoughts and perceptions about reality. (I see something negative and I develop a negative view of reality because of what I see.)

Perceptions effect your body.

My perceptions send signals to my cells, and my brain, and they do effect my entire physical body. Thoughts alone can damage your health and also heal you because of the perceptions that send signals to your cells.




This is not my story. I don't know if that can be tested, probably not.

A man who sees his child is trapped under a car, might in a moment of panic, lift the car to save her. Later, he might try to see if he can do it again and there is no way he can. Some may say it was adrenalin. But can science prove that adrenalin can give a man super human strength? Is that testable?

Is belief testable? Only with hypnotism perhaps. I find hypnotism fascinating.

A man is hypnotized to where he cannot see his daughter standing right in front of him. The hypnotist holds up a card from a deck of cards and ask the man what the card is. The man sees the card right through his "invisible: daughter and knows the right answer.

Is this a test or a trick? How can a man see through a person?

People call this hypnotism... but what is it really?

This is a common line of thinking for those that believe that LOA is an accurate depiction of actuality.

I have underlined the fallacy in thinking, which leads to the illogical conclusions in this thread and this school of thought.

What we observe does not change, how we perceive(interpret) what we observe is what changes.

Perception does not equate to actual reality. It is how one interprets that which is observed, not that which is observed.

A moot point .... We have no way to know 'actuality' - we can only know our perception of it so if my filters change then what I am observing appears different.

So very true Artgurl. We have no way of knowing if what we perceive is actuality as we perceive it.

The way that is done is with agreement.

How many (and what authorities) agree on the particulars of the perception when it is observed and measured and documented and declared 'actual.' That is an agreement.

Now is actuality the same as the agreement? There is no way to know. We think so. But who is the final authority who sees all things through and through as they actually are? There is none.

We also judge a thing "real" by its duration within our perception. How long was it observed? If something appears and disappears, it is real? Or will it be judged "not real" because it had no lasting duration?

If demonstrating that personal perception does not equate to actual reality is considered a moot point, then what exactly would be a useful one when the subject matter hinges upon the distinction? It is only a moot point if it has no further consequences. The direct consequence is the recognition of the fact that thought alone does not change actuality itself. That is not inconsequential to this topic.



Recognition of this distinction is the key to understanding one's own perceptual fallibility. It allows for one to understand that actuality just seems different, but is not actually different. Clearly what has changed is the interpretation, which is why everything seems to be different. If the value of 'moot' is placed upon this aspect of knowledge and understanding, then that would clearly be a personal choice, and I obviously disagree, and have given grounds.

When one chooses to look at the world differently, the world itself is not different, it just looks different.

True that is...i have come across similar qoutations from Bhuddism as well.Its not theology,it is the truth as it stands.

This statement makes no sense to me. "LOA An accurate depiction of actuality?" Don't you mean to say "This is a common line of thinking for those who believe in the Law of Attraction?

Some people prefer to think that LOA is NOT a LAW. And yet I see evidence of it in everything. I think it is a law.

Like unto itself will be drawn. It is an universal law of vibration.



Everything changes. How do you know what we observe does not change? The only thing constant is change. Aside from that, it is our observation that determines our definitions and perceptions of reality. That is all we have to go on.



The problem with that is that actual reality must have an observer to interpret it or it is simply a moot point and a useless argument. Ultimately the observer defines reality.

This is a Christian study on Renewing the Mind.

Beautiful sharing here with videos...

which will give better understanding on how God wants to

help us all change our old thinking.

Although this is especially directed to Chrsitians .

I think this will be helpful info for all.




http://hubpages.com/hub/Renewed-Mind-Please-Explain

It is moot to me because it cannot be known ... can never be known ...

We only know this 'actuality' by our perception of it. We react based upon our perception of it.

If it is important to you to place value upon the not knowable then by all means do so. It fits within your construct. It does not fit within mine. I have never disagreed that there is a distinction between perception and actuality. We just cannot know actuality except through our bumping into it and interpreting it through individualized filters.

This is the very point of each of us creating our own world. We must by design.





That would be my assumption but again, we can't know actuality. Whether actuality changes or not doesn't matter. We respond to our interpretation of it.




We do not disagree here Michael, however, when the world we perceive 'looks' different we 'respond' different, therefore, for the individual, the world 'is' different.

I suppose in some sense I can't argue with the idea that we create our own reality though delusion.

Doctors have totally accepted that schizophrenia is 'real' in the sense that people who experience delusions do indeed experience them.

So maybe the "Law of Attraction" is truly nothing more than the art of deluding oneself into believing things whether they have actuality or not.

Maybe someday we'll find JB laying in a hospital bed in a mental institution believing that she became a world renowned artist.

Who can say that it wouldn't be HER reality? If that's what she believes to be true, then it's true for HER.

I think I understand how the Law of Attraction works now.

Not having FAITH, simply means that you aren't willing to delude yourself! I get it now.

I'm not sure if I want to end up like that though. But then again, maybe it wouldn't be so bad if I actually believed my hallcinations.

I guess the real bottom line is that if you're willing to give up physical reality there is nothing you cannot imagine to have achieved.

I understand now!

I finally GOT IT!

Wow!

I feel like I just won a game of charades or something.

How would you know that for sure? Especially if you were the only observer and there was no agreement with other observers?

How would you know it did not actually change? That is just your opinion. You would have no way of knowing.

Bible scriptures....

"Call those things that be not as though they were."


Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen."

Sounds like quantum physics is even found in the bible .

Also Sounds like LOA has some roots in Quantum physics .

James who let you our of your thought bubble? Get back in there and create a new reality where I am a millionaire heiress who lives on a yacht.

The Principle of Conscious Change

"The next step, after you accept personal responsibility, is to become more conscious. And here is where I get into my moment of indecision. How do I describe “conscious” to you?

Everyone throws this term around as if they know what it means, but as I look around, it is not at all apparent to me that they do understand. Being conscious does not mean being politically correct, following the Dalai Lama, being aware of injustice, saving the whales, communicating with God or Jesus or spirit guides—or anything like these things.

Being conscious means not operating as an automatic response mechanism.

It means seeing what is happening, on all levels simultaneously, at every moment, and choosing an emotional, mental, behavioral, and spiritual response based on what is the most resourceful choice in that moment.

Ultimately, it means doing all of this automatically, without conscious thought (there’s a seeming contradiction!—being conscious, but doing so automatically).

You process all possibilities in a split second and respond in just the right way—not with a preset response (which is what I mean by being an automatic response mechanism), but with a choice that is optimum for the situation.

Most people, unfortunately, run on automatic.

They have rules or set procedures for what to think, what to feel, and what to do in various situations—rules or procedures they learned when they were too young to know any better—and these responses happen automatically, like Pavlov’s dog salivating when it hears the bell.

Some of these responses were learned through physical or emotional pain, and are particularly deeply imbedded. Others are just things we accepted as true because our parents told us they were true over and over at an age when our parents seemed like infallible gods.

At the very least, many of these rules and procedures serve to help us deal with our anxiety, or what I often refer to as overwhelm. We feel anxious, so we withdraw, get angry, have a cigarette, eat, exercise, act silly, have a drink, talk too much, space out, have sex, tense up, buy something, watch TV, cry...or one of thousands of other behaviors or feelings.

We don’t choose to do them because they seemed to be the most resourceful thing we could do at the time.

We just do them, automatically. Usually they are anything but resourceful. Often, they lead to drama, suffering, problems, sadness.

A person who has done much of their life unconsciously doesn’t know they are feeling, behaving, responding, and living unconsciously, and you may not believe me when I tell you this is something you are probably doing, and doing quite a lot, if not all, of the time.

It takes becoming more conscious to realize what you were doing. "

Enter Charlie Brown's adult voices...



The broom is out of straws...

I'm outtie!

Good Morning beautiful people....i intend to eat the world today...delicious and nutrisious!

You are what you eat, so be discriminating. I had a bagel.

If thats the case JB...I am a twinkie.I will be gone most of the weekend...enjoy yourself and be safe!