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Atlantis75's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:30 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sun 05/10/09 01:33 PM
....but truth hurts sometimes and the faster you accept it, the quicker you gonna realize what you gotta do.

For the most, it goes for men, looking for women for long term relationship, marriage, life-partner.

Women gonna curse me and some will try to say "it's not true". It's ok, criticism doesn't bother me.

So here it goes.

What's the problem, finding a woman in these days?

Here it is.
We are not living in the same world, like 5-10 years ago. Women, - out of instinct - looking for somebody who can take care of her, raise the kids and feel secure. There is nothing wrong with this, it's a natural thing, for example, squirrels looking for a strong male squirrel that is able to provide a good nesting place on a tree, where the cats can't get to, or female apes want to be around with male apes, that are strong and clever enough to gather enough food for the family, until the baby grows up.

In today's world for us humans, that means one thing: Having a secure job and/or enough money.
Without this base, forget about a strong and long lasting relationship, it's not going to happen. Women, driven by the instinct will feel less secure and start to have doubts, when their husband/boyfriend looses his job or just won't make enough to live in a specific "living standard". I'm not saying, the man is unable to provide food and a safe place to live, but I'm talking about a specific living standard we expect to live.
Now I'm gonna talk about USA and some parts of the Western world, that "living a normal life" means to have a house or an apartment, a secure job with an adequate income to pay the bills, have a certain type (and amount) of vehicle(s) and able to have a financial status to spend enough time with them and raise 1-2-3 + children without a problem.
There is nothing wrong with this picture...... on paper.

It is vastly different now in today though, if we look at the current status of what is going on in the world. Many people have lost (loosing/will loose) their jobs. Many already lost their homes, foreclosures, below value sales and so on. Those who have jobs are glad and became much more "conservative" about money and don't feel like spending aimlessly and thinks twice before buying anything.
Now, keeping all this in mind and seeing/following of what is going on, people need to adjust to this reality, but it goes very slow, as many continue trying to live in this fantasy world of how it was 5-10-20 years ago and tries to be in the same living standard and the way of life.
I got news for you. It's not going to happen. People will not rack up on credit cards, they already have, they aren't making as much money as they used to be, or not having the same well paying jobs, save those who are but even them they are current status quo and try to conserve as much as possible. While it's "cheap" to buy a new house right now, most won't do it, they don't have the confidence or afraid to start any risky business, involving a lot of money.

So it comes down to this:
Women, who are looking for a new partner or even a husband, need to drop their materialistic goals or at least lower it. It comes down to 3 possible outcomes:

1. They get lucky and they find someone with a really good financial background and they live happily ever after. Good for you, have a happy life.

2. They won't find anyone for many years..who knows how long, maybe never. They keep searching and trying and having 1-day-wonder and phone-only dates, maybe a few months here and there, but essentially they aren't finding what they are looking for, because they don't exist anymore, or the chances are very small to find someone, who is able to give them what they want.

3. They adjust to the environment and lower their standards. They realize, that money isn't everything and if they manage get into a conversation and they feel that special connection emotionally, and that chemistry , that develops between 2 humans and they forget about the whole world about how to live or what to have or what the TV was showing the other night trying to explain what love is or how to gain it.


For the men who is unsuccessful finding anyone:

1. Lower your standards. If you are not finding the person and possibly left in the mud once or many times, you are looking for that special one at the wrong place. Doesn't matter how inviting it looks, your experience should remind you about not falling for scams and small tricks.
If you feel like you tried everything and you just don't understand why you are single, it is most likely not your fault. There is no specific look required, and in reality not even a specific financial background. Of course, it's up to you to continue to try your luck, you never know and things can happen without warning and you might find someone at the end. But if you think, you threw everything at it, you got and still no luck, well, here is another option. Start looking for elsewhere. Look for women who have lower standards regarding "living a life". There are billions of women who would just love to be with someone, raise their kids and all they want is food, water and a roof above their head. But there is a good chance, they aren't in your state or maybe not even in United States. Maybe Central/South America, maybe Europe, maybe somewhere else. The world is huge and there are plenty of people on it. Broaden your search, who cares if she doesn't speak English well or not accustomed to the life you are living, it's all for the better. If she is honest and a woman who loves you for who you are and will go through good and bad with you, that's all it matters, everything else comes after. I know, for many it sounds crazy or frightening to look for someone who doesn't live on the same standards and grew up in a different society and a different culture, but you might find someone who will gladly accept the less or don't even really give a damn what you got in the bank as long as you stay with them and love them.
Again, this is just a tip, an idea. It's just something I always keep in mind, and the day, when I give up searching the same way and the same location or the same country. I don't get mad and I don't blame others for it, instead I get even. If i know it's not my fault not finding someone or just simply can't understand why I can't find anyone, then most likely I'm searching at the wrong places, from the wrong group of people.

That's all...take it easy!




MeChrissy2's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:35 PM
Atlantis,

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with the class.flowerforyou

PATSFAN's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:39 PM
sad2 Thanks, it's confirmed I'll never find someone nowsad2

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:40 PM
:smile: Blame television,movies,and pop music:smile:

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Sun 05/10/09 01:40 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Sun 05/10/09 01:40 PM
Women gonna curse me and some will try to say "it's not true".


Maybe because you're grouping everyone together, when in fact not everyone is the same?

bastet126's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:40 PM
i guess if getting back to the basics is considered lowering one's standards, i'm all for it. would rather have strong sprituality, enjoyment of the little things in life, and love of my family than all the rest the world throws at us any day. mating isn't anything, unless it's real. hold out until you find what makes your heart go pitter patter and the rest is just...stuff. flowerforyou

PATSFAN's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:42 PM

:smile: Blame television,movies,and pop music:smile:



drinker

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Sun 05/10/09 01:46 PM
Edited by durtydduck on Sun 05/10/09 01:49 PM
ha.. I read every word and you know it makes sense... I mean I see what he is talking about all the time . Yahoo personals/ match.com/ E harmony...All these sites have the exact same thing.. Women do have certain expectations and they make no bones about it.. I laugh too! Why because it always come down to "money" a motorcycle, wanting world travel... yad yada yada...Adn the men I will say "probably" wants a "barbie doll or "eye candy"... But it is so strange to read profiles that are based on "honesty" Its up to each individual to be honest as they post. Thats why I really do not care if I ever meet someone. Sooner or later there will be one that outshines all the rest. That "down to earth" person who is realistic. Is she/ he out there for any of us? Hell if I know or if I care anymore. as long as I have lolipop

and yes you can blame the media. we have for so long always "wanted" more, to posses more to be better then the neighbor. We forgot how to live with in our means. And look at it now? people all over struggling to make the bills. Thank god I am retired and learned to live with in my means long ago

Mr_Music's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:47 PM
Lose: To misplace; to become separated from; to fail.

Loose: Opposite of tight.

galendgirl's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:48 PM
Okay, I'll disagree - and maybe I'm just an anomoly in terms of women in general.

I don't need a man to support me financially...I've been doing that for 20 years and my standard of living went up - not just in material things (often over-rated) but overall in terms of finanicial security. While being able to hold a job is in my top 3 "looking for" traits (behind not married and not a coworker) I don't care if he makes minumum wage if he gets off the couch and goes to work responsibly. Honestly? He'd better bring something more to the relationship than a paycheck or there isn't any reason to have a relationship.

Just my freaky little opinion.

Maybe you are right in many cases - I can only speak for myself.

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:48 PM

....but truth hurts sometimes and the faster you accept it, the quicker you gonna realize what you gotta do.

For the most, it goes for men, looking for women for long term relationship, marriage, life-partner.

Women gonna curse me and some will try to say "it's not true". It's ok, criticism doesn't bother me.

So here it goes.

What's the problem, finding a woman in these days?

Here it is.
We are not living in the same world, like 5-10 years ago. Women, - out of instinct - looking for somebody who can take care of her, raise the kids and feel secure. There is nothing wrong with this, it's a natural thing, for example, squirrels looking for a strong male squirrel that is able to provide a good nesting place on a tree, where the cats can't get to, or female apes want to be around with male apes, that are strong and clever enough to gather enough food for the family, until the baby grows up.

In today's world for us humans, that means one thing: Having a secure job and/or enough money.
Without this base, forget about a strong and long lasting relationship, it's not going to happen. Women, driven by the instinct will feel less secure and start to have doubts, when their husband/boyfriend looses his job or just won't make enough to live in a specific "living standard". I'm not saying, the man is unable to provide food and a safe place to live, but I'm talking about a specific living standard we expect to live.
Now I'm gonna talk about USA and some parts of the Western world, that "living a normal life" means to have a house or an apartment, a secure job with an adequate income to pay the bills, have a certain type (and amount) of vehicle(s) and able to have a financial status to spend enough time with them and raise 1-2-3 + children without a problem.
There is nothing wrong with this picture...... on paper.

It is vastly different now in today though, if we look at the current status of what is going on in the world. Many people have lost (loosing/will loose) their jobs. Many already lost their homes, foreclosures, below value sales and so on. Those who have jobs are glad and became much more "conservative" about money and don't feel like spending aimlessly and thinks twice before buying anything.
Now, keeping all this in mind and seeing/following of what is going on, people need to adjust to this reality, but it goes very slow, as many continue trying to live in this fantasy world of how it was 5-10-20 years ago and tries to be in the same living standard and the way of life.
I got news for you. It's not going to happen. People will not rack up on credit cards, they already have, they aren't making as much money as they used to be, or not having the same well paying jobs, save those who are but even them they are current status quo and try to conserve as much as possible. While it's "cheap" to buy a new house right now, most won't do it, they don't have the confidence or afraid to start any risky business, involving a lot of money.

So it comes down to this:
Women, who are looking for a new partner or even a husband, need to drop their materialistic goals or at least lower it. It comes down to 3 possible outcomes:

1. They get lucky and they find someone with a really good financial background and they live happily ever after. Good for you, have a happy life.

2. They won't find anyone for many years..who knows how long, maybe never. They keep searching and trying and having 1-day-wonder and phone-only dates, maybe a few months here and there, but essentially they aren't finding what they are looking for, because they don't exist anymore, or the chances are very small to find someone, who is able to give them what they want.

3. They adjust to the environment and lower their standards. They realize, that money isn't everything and if they manage get into a conversation and they feel that special connection emotionally, and that chemistry , that develops between 2 humans and they forget about the whole world about how to live or what to have or what the TV was showing the other night trying to explain what love is or how to gain it.


For the men who is unsuccessful finding anyone:

1. Lower your standards. If you are not finding the person and possibly left in the mud once or many times, you are looking for that special one at the wrong place. Doesn't matter how inviting it looks, your experience should remind you about not falling for scams and small tricks.
If you feel like you tried everything and you just don't understand why you are single, it is most likely not your fault. There is no specific look required, and in reality not even a specific financial background. Of course, it's up to you to continue to try your luck, you never know and things can happen without warning and you might find someone at the end. But if you think, you threw everything at it, you got and still no luck, well, here is another option. Start looking for elsewhere. Look for women who have lower standards regarding "living a life". There are billions of women who would just love to be with someone, raise their kids and all they want is food, water and a roof above their head. But there is a good chance, they aren't in your state or maybe not even in United States. Maybe Central/South America, maybe Europe, maybe somewhere else. The world is huge and there are plenty of people on it. Broaden your search, who cares if she doesn't speak English well or not accustomed to the life you are living, it's all for the better. If she is honest and a woman who loves you for who you are and will go through good and bad with you, that's all it matters, everything else comes after. I know, for many it sounds crazy or frightening to look for someone who doesn't live on the same standards and grew up in a different society and a different culture, but you might find someone who will gladly accept the less or don't even really give a damn what you got in the bank as long as you stay with them and love them.
Again, this is just a tip, an idea. It's just something I always keep in mind, and the day, when I give up searching the same way and the same location or the same country. I don't get mad and I don't blame others for it, instead I get even. If i know it's not my fault not finding someone or just simply can't understand why I can't find anyone, then most likely I'm searching at the wrong places, from the wrong group of people.

That's all...take it easy!







Do you think that any of your feelings on the subject have to do with where you live? I often feel that this state has pushed so many people out because of how expensive it is to live. What you wrote sounds so bleak.



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Sun 05/10/09 01:51 PM

Okay, I'll disagree - and maybe I'm just an anomoly in terms of women in general.

I don't need a man to support me financially...I've been doing that for 20 years and my standard of living went up - not just in material things (often over-rated) but overall in terms of finanicial security. While being able to hold a job is in my top 3 "looking for" traits (behind not married and not a coworker) I don't care if he makes minumum wage if he gets off the couch and goes to work responsibly. Honestly? He'd better bring something more to the relationship than a paycheck or there isn't any reason to have a relationship.

Just my freaky little opinion.

Maybe you are right in many cases - I can only speak for myself.
your right, but to many women, not all, say "more then minimum wage" And being retired I don't need to go to work except around the yard/ home.

galendgirl's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:53 PM


Okay, I'll disagree - and maybe I'm just an anomoly in terms of women in general.

I don't need a man to support me financially...I've been doing that for 20 years and my standard of living went up - not just in material things (often over-rated) but overall in terms of finanicial security. While being able to hold a job is in my top 3 "looking for" traits (behind not married and not a coworker) I don't care if he makes minumum wage if he gets off the couch and goes to work responsibly. Honestly? He'd better bring something more to the relationship than a paycheck or there isn't any reason to have a relationship.

Just my freaky little opinion.

Maybe you are right in many cases - I can only speak for myself.
your right, but to many women, not all, say "more then minimum wage" And being retired I don't need to go to work except around the yard/ home.


Given that you are retired, that counts as getting off the couch and being responsible and productive. flowerforyou

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:53 PM
Nail Hit Right On the HEAD!

The thing is I am not lowering my standards. My outlook on the thinking of women is this for what they want to believe or not,


Get me now to keep me faithful. If I do manage to get lucky enough to find fortune by myself this is how it is going to be, I am going to have three girl friends under the same roof and if any one of them has a problem with that "don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you!"

I am not going to be seen as a meal ticket by any woman. The thing is I don't care if a woman is rich, or well to do as long as when she does commit to me and I likewise commit to her she has to contribute to the prosperity AND happiness of the home. Otherwise if I am rich it will be all about me and no one else. I work too hard for what little I got to face ridicule or being held up to impossible yardsticks.

You are so right in the grandiose fiction a lot of women (NOTE I DIDN'T SAY ALL!) choose to try to lie by. To think they wanted equality and now they want it on their terms only! That is part of the reason I hate the people living in LA. I don't necessarily hate the area, just the overwhelming Bugie Yuppie presence here!


I sincerely wish like heck I could meet a truly beautiful woman that can see me for who and what I am instead of seeing teh image she wants to see! And yes ladies, true beauty does run deeper than just appearance! I would outright propose on the spot to a woman who had the grace of a willow, artistic talent, a self determined will, curves that are deadly, and a backhand that can bust bricks! On top of that she would have to be the kind of woman small animals run up to for her attention in the forest. Even then I would want to savor every moment in her very shadow if I could and would worship her like a goddess but all I see around me is the same old god damn thing. I am not into Pamela Anderson or Brittany Spears at all. They are trash fakes to me.

Women need to get over themselves with their 'boo hoo hoo, where is my prince charming?' Get a life damn it! You only want a prince? Why not your own kingdom? Shows you how and why I think like I do. When I am king of my own kingdom there will not be one queen unless she helped me build that kingdom! Women in my court at that point are there to serve MY pleasures and not the other way around. There is a word for women like that! CONCUBINES! Funny how a lot of modern day women don't seem to mind being the "other woman." Anything to get at that money I guess!

To the rest of you women with a spine, a life, and some pride in yourselves...

I salute you and praise your very existence proving there is some hope for mankind to evolve past being a pack of sex starved hooting gun waving (sex pistol) simians! To you I raise a toast!drinker

For those of you who talk to me at least a flower...flowerforyou


For the rest who are now really pissed off at me...







Love is not pretty. Believe me, I know!

MetalShadows's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:54 PM
I agree with another poster not everyone is the same. I could careless how much a guy makes, all that matters is how he treats me. Besides this is only a one sided view.

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:54 PM
Edited by Cutiepieforyou on Sun 05/10/09 01:54 PM


Okay, I'll disagree - and maybe I'm just an anomoly in terms of women in general.

I don't need a man to support me financially...I've been doing that for 20 years and my standard of living went up - not just in material things (often over-rated) but overall in terms of finanicial security. While being able to hold a job is in my top 3 "looking for" traits (behind not married and not a coworker) I don't care if he makes minumum wage if he gets off the couch and goes to work responsibly. Honestly? He'd better bring something more to the relationship than a paycheck or there isn't any reason to have a relationship.

Just my freaky little opinion.

Maybe you are right in many cases - I can only speak for myself.
your right, but to many women, not all, say "more then minimum wage" And being retired I don't need to go to work except around the yard/ home.


You mean they actually put a salary requirement in their profiles?

Marsahlic's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:54 PM
Edited by Marsahlic on Sun 05/10/09 02:02 PM
If those are the rules, I am the exception.
I think you're wrong.

I am a real person who wants realistic things.
The last person I fell in love with didn't have a job even.
I want a relationship.


So don't feel discouraged, people, this is generalized. >__<

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:58 PM



Okay, I'll disagree - and maybe I'm just an anomoly in terms of women in general.

I don't need a man to support me financially...I've been doing that for 20 years and my standard of living went up - not just in material things (often over-rated) but overall in terms of finanicial security. While being able to hold a job is in my top 3 "looking for" traits (behind not married and not a coworker) I don't care if he makes minumum wage if he gets off the couch and goes to work responsibly. Honestly? He'd better bring something more to the relationship than a paycheck or there isn't any reason to have a relationship.

Just my freaky little opinion.

Maybe you are right in many cases - I can only speak for myself.
your right, but to many women, not all, say "more then minimum wage" And being retired I don't need to go to work except around the yard/ home.


You mean they actually put a salary requirement in their profiles?


HELL YES! I HAVE SEEN THAT ONE FOR MYSELF!!!

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Sun 05/10/09 01:59 PM




Okay, I'll disagree - and maybe I'm just an anomoly in terms of women in general.

I don't need a man to support me financially...I've been doing that for 20 years and my standard of living went up - not just in material things (often over-rated) but overall in terms of finanicial security. While being able to hold a job is in my top 3 "looking for" traits (behind not married and not a coworker) I don't care if he makes minumum wage if he gets off the couch and goes to work responsibly. Honestly? He'd better bring something more to the relationship than a paycheck or there isn't any reason to have a relationship.

Just my freaky little opinion.

Maybe you are right in many cases - I can only speak for myself.
your right, but to many women, not all, say "more then minimum wage" And being retired I don't need to go to work except around the yard/ home.


You mean they actually put a salary requirement in their profiles?


HELL YES! I HAVE SEEN THAT ONE FOR MYSELF!!!

OMG...wow!

galendgirl's photo
Sun 05/10/09 02:00 PM


You mean they actually put a salary requirement in their profiles?


HELL YES! I HAVE SEEN THAT ONE FOR MYSELF!!!



Crazy!

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