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Topic: Self Confidence--- Hmmmm
GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:05 AM
OK here's a silly question to ask I guess, but my ex-gf told me recently I need more self confidence, because I always asked her was anything wrong, are you ok, and stuff like that. Then she breaks up with me and tells me this. Can it be that maybe my self confidence is low because of people like her leaving me? Or are they leaving me because my self confidence is low? Which came first the chicken or the egg? Is caring enough to ask if someone is ok low self confidence?

Opinions please.

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Tue 07/14/09 09:11 AM
Sounds to me like your self-confidence is low, which leads to clinginess and neediness which leads to breakups (in most cases). It might be time to take a look at yourself and work on your own issues before you get involved with someone else. Remember, only when you are ok with YOU can you be ok with someone else. flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:11 AM
How often were you asking her if anything was wrong and if she was okay? Daily? Weekly?

GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:15 AM
Actually, more often at the end, but to my defense on that, She had worked for the same company for 21 years, it was the only job she has since 17 years old, and the company closed down her whse and laid her off, so because of that she was sad and often depressed, so I probably asked quite a bit because of that.

As far as my own issues, I'm not sure how to work on something that I have no control over, such as people deciding I care too much I guess.

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:18 AM

OK here's a silly question to ask I guess, but my ex-gf told me recently I need more self confidence, because I always asked her was anything wrong, are you ok, and stuff like that. Then she breaks up with me and tells me this. Can it be that maybe my self confidence is low because of people like her leaving me? Or are they leaving me because my self confidence is low? Which came first the chicken or the egg? Is caring enough to ask if someone is ok low self confidence?

Opinions please.


Steroids...but no really, steroids.

People leave because you lack confidence, and trust me when I say this...the lack of confidence came first. Asking if someone is okay is fine, but not every time you see them. Try opening with "how are you doing?", it is an open-ended question that can go anywhere and it is formal. If everyday I saw the same person and they asked me "are you okay?" I would grow agitated and probably end up burying them under my...erhm...errr...

GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:21 AM
Ok so where is that line between not giving a crap, caring and low self-confidence?

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Tue 07/14/09 09:21 AM

Actually, more often at the end, but to my defense on that, She had worked for the same company for 21 years, it was the only job she has since 17 years old, and the company closed down her whse and laid her off, so because of that she was sad and often depressed, so I probably asked quite a bit because of that.

As far as my own issues, I'm not sure how to work on something that I have no control over, such as people deciding I care too much I guess.


You can never control other people. However, you CAN control how you present yourself, whether or not you like yourself, whether or not you are too clingy, needy, dependent, unselfconfident, low self-esteem, that kind of thing. I think perhaps that's what you should focus on.

Honestly, your last statement screams "pity me." I can see how if this is a one-time thing because you just had a breakup it would be perfectly fine. But, and here's the kicker, if you make that kind of statement a lot, it can be difficult to be around. It says you need to get your validation from someone else instead of yourself.

tanyaann's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:21 AM
Regardless of the situation, you are in control of your own self-esteem and happiness, it should never be dependent upon another person.

Take some time work on yourself, do things that you love to do, and feel comfortable with yourself .... make yourself happy... and your self-confidence will boost!

Best wishes!

GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:23 AM


Actually, more often at the end, but to my defense on that, She had worked for the same company for 21 years, it was the only job she has since 17 years old, and the company closed down her whse and laid her off, so because of that she was sad and often depressed, so I probably asked quite a bit because of that.

As far as my own issues, I'm not sure how to work on something that I have no control over, such as people deciding I care too much I guess.


You can never control other people. However, you CAN control how you present yourself, whether or not you like yourself, whether or not you are too clingy, needy, dependent, unselfconfident, low self-esteem, that kind of thing. I think perhaps that's what you should focus on.

Honestly, your last statement screams "pity me." I can see how if this is a one-time thing because you just had a breakup it would be perfectly fine. But, and here's the kicker, if you make that kind of statement a lot, it can be difficult to be around. It says you need to get your validation from someone else instead of yourself.



Which last statment?

Pawphriend's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:24 AM
I'm sorry that happened to you; you seem like a caring person and didn't know you were being understood as "clingy". It's sometimes difficult to find that balance of understanding vs neediness. Perhaps instead of asking the person you are involved with to clarify their feelings in words you could "monitor" how the relationship is going simply by watching your significant other’s involvement. If you plan things and your girlfriend is happy by smiling, thanking you and participating- what's left to say. Validation comes in many different ways.

GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:25 AM

Regardless of the situation, you are in control of your own self-esteem and happiness, it should never be dependent upon another person.

Take some time work on yourself, do things that you love to do, and feel comfortable with yourself .... make yourself happy... and your self-confidence will boost!

Best wishes!


Thanks,

Riding_Dubz's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:25 AM
when in doubt whip it out flowerforyou

GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:26 AM

I'm sorry that happened to you; you seem like a caring person and didn't know you were being understood as "clingy". It's sometimes difficult to find that balance of understanding vs neediness. Perhaps instead of asking the person you are involved with to clarify their feelings in words you could "monitor" how the relationship is going simply by watching your significant other’s involvement. If you plan things and your girlfriend is happy by smiling, thanking you and participating- what's left to say. Validation comes in many different ways.


So caring for someone when they are down, is also considered "Clingy"?

Gossipmpm's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:29 AM
I am a women with lots of confidence

So a man without it seems weak to me

If it's low. Fond out why!

Then pull up your man panties and forge ahead!!!

PATSFAN's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:31 AM
smokin You don't ask women out, you tell them smokin

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:34 AM

Ok so where is that line between not giving a crap, caring and low self-confidence?


I just explained it...asking someone "are you okay?" constantly is annoying, of course they are not okay and you can plainly see that. Now on the other hand asking someone "how are you doing?" opens into a multitude of directions, it is wordplay.

Or you can just continue to do what you keep doing as you don't seem to be all that likely to change, I don't even know why half of you bother asking for help when you obviously won't take it...

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Tue 07/14/09 09:36 AM


I'm sorry that happened to you; you seem like a caring person and didn't know you were being understood as "clingy". It's sometimes difficult to find that balance of understanding vs neediness. Perhaps instead of asking the person you are involved with to clarify their feelings in words you could "monitor" how the relationship is going simply by watching your significant other’s involvement. If you plan things and your girlfriend is happy by smiling, thanking you and participating- what's left to say. Validation comes in many different ways.


So caring for someone when they are down, is also considered "Clingy"?


Depends on how you go about that caring. Believe me, your girlfriend probably gave off many signals that you were smothering her. Sometimes women, in an effort to not hurt feelings, don't come right out and say what needs to be said, until it's too late. That's not right, either. But usually, if you're paying attention, you can usually figure out something's not right.

GRIFFIN_LIZZARD's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:37 AM


Ok so where is that line between not giving a crap, caring and low self-confidence?


I just explained it...asking someone "are you okay?" constantly is annoying, of course they are not okay and you can plainly see that. Now on the other hand asking someone "how are you doing?" opens into a multitude of directions, it is wordplay.

Or you can just continue to do what you keep doing as you don't seem to be all that likely to change, I don't even know why half of you bother asking for help when you obviously won't take it...


Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to understand all views, I apprecate the feedback from everyone. I am just trying to figure out for myself the mistakes I made thats all.

tanyaann's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:38 AM

smokin You don't ask women out, you tell them smokin


whoa And how's that working out for you? :laughing:

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/14/09 09:41 AM
my 2 cents....asking if there is something wrong with someone you are with shows concern...but when people won't accept the answer (whether it's true or they just don't want to talk about it) and keeps asking what's wrong...then there can be a problem. My ex would ask me what's wrong if I was just relaxing and not talkative. I would tell him that I was just relaxing and nothing was wrong (which was true)...he wouldn't let it go and pushed so much that he thought there was something wrong with him

Just accept the answer given. If they get mad because you push the issue...that is on them.

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