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Topic: Rachel Maddow, MSNBC sued for defamation
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Thu 07/28/11 09:26 AM
Rachel Maddow
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Rachel Maddow
'Left-wing television commentators must be made to respect ... the law'

A lawsuit seeking in excess of $50 million has been prepared against MSNBC and its talk-show entertainer Rachel Maddow over statements she made about a Minnesota-based ministry.

Word of the development comes in an announcement from officials with the YouCanRunButYouCannotHideInternational ministry run by former rock artist Bradlee Dean.

The attorney handling the case is Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and now of Freedom Watch, who said money is not the issue.

"This case is filed as a matter of principle," he said. "We need more Bradlee Deans in the world and hateful left wing television commentators must be made to respect not only his mission but the law."

The team announced a news conference tomorrow at the Midtown Executive Club in New York to respond to reporters' questions about the dispute.

Bradlee Dean
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Bradlee Dean
Dean, a renowned hard metal rocker who came to Christ after suffering a hard life as a young boy, has dedicated his life to his ministry's mission, officials said.

He once made a statement on the radio criticizing his fellow Christians for not taking a stronger stand about the "gay" rights lobby promoting homosexuality in the schools. According to the ministry announcement, he made a strong reference to Muslims taking the issue more seriously in the context of Shariah law, but did not condone their practices. It was Bradlee's intent to focus attention on the issue, not to advocate harm to anyone.

Despite the very clear disclaimer by Dean on his ministries website and elsewhere regarding the false accusation that he was calling for the execution of homosexuals, according to the announcement, "MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and others seized on and accused Dean on her show of supporting the killing of homosexuals, as is the practice in some radical Islamic countries. This seriously has harmed Dean and the ministry, who pride themselves on respect and love for all people."

The ministry announcement said, "In an interview earlier this year, MSNBC's president Phil Griffin admitted that the network, to boost its ratings, caters to the so-called 'progressive left.' This explains the malicious attacks on Bradlee Dean and his ministry, which are being used to harm the presidential campaign of Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, who is a conservative Christian."

The organization explained in the past, Dean and his ministry have been complemented by presidential candidate Michele Bachmann for their work in promoting values for the nation's youth.

"The left wing media's effort to defame Dean is an obvious way to try to harm Bachmann's presidential prospects," the group said.

An earlier report from the ministry said it was Maddow who featured on her program a quote from Dean, "The Muslims are calling for the execution of homosexuals in America. This was just released yesterday and it shows you that they themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible of the Judeo-Christian God. But they seem to be more moral than even the American Christians do because these people are livid about enforcing their laws. They know homosexuality's an abomination. If America won't enforce the laws, God will raise up a foreign enemy to do just that."

But that was an edited version of Dean's original message, which was a benign warning to the homosexual community that the Bible calls the behavior a sin and there are consequences for sin, so they should "flee" from that. Dean explains he was only trying to guilt the Christian community to take the radical leftist homosexual agenda more seriously.

According to Dean's ministry, his actual statement was:

Muslims are calling for the execution for homosexuals in America, this was just released yesterday and it shows you that they themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible, the Judeo Christian God. They seem to be more moral than even the American Christians do. Because these people are livid about enforcing their laws, they know homosexuality is an abomination. And I continually reach out to the homosexual communities on this radio show, and I warn them, which ones love? Here you have Obama condemning it behind the backs of the homosexuals but to their faces he's promoting it. I say this to my gay friends out there the ones that continuously nitpick everything I say. Hollywood is promoting immorality and the God of the Heavens in Jesus names is warning you to flee from the wrath to come, yet you have Muslims calling for your execution. If America won't enforce the laws, God will raise up a foreign enemy to do just that's what you're seeing in America today. Read Leviticus 26 America.

Klayman told WND that the original misapplication of the comments came through writer Andy Birkey of the Minnesota Independent, where he headlined a story "GOP-linked punk rock ministry says executing gays is 'moral'."

The ministry wrote to the newspaper to correct the impression and Birkey noted Dean's statement that, "We have specifically rejected, as all Christians do, the Islamic doctrine, and actual practice, of executing homosexuals. But some have claimed, in effect, that by merely mentioning the execution of homosexuals (as a criminal practice of Islam), on our radio broadcast, we have suggested it for consideration. Obviously this is absurd. The whole point was to contrast the Islamic position with the Christian position. This may not have been as clear as we would have otherwise planned it to be. Live radio is not scripted. But everyone who knows us knows that this is our position because we have stated it consistently for years..."

But since the original statement, the Independent report, and its followup, Klayman noted, the original accusation has spread. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune explained Dean's comments were "read as advocating executions for gay people," KARE Television commented on his "controversial statements about gay persons," and on the City Pages said Dean "has praised religious extremists who execute suspected homosexuals."

ABC jumped into the fray with the blog comment that Dean "has suggested homosexuals be executed."

Activist sites from as Rightwingwatch took it even further, saying that Dean statements include "that Muslim nations that execute gays are more moral than American Christians."
State Democrat-Farmer-Labor Party Rep. Karen Clark accused Dean of saying that "extremists who call for the execution of American gays are morally justified."

A WND request to Maddow's program for a comment did not generate a response.

You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International was founded by Dean, and it has reached more than 500,000 young people with a message of truth and hope across the country. His message focuses on basic constitutional issues. He's also spoken at churches, festivals, prisons, detention centers and on radio and television programs.

Dean also is drummer for Junkyard Prophet, which has sold over 40,000 albums in the Minneapolis area alone. Bradlee is endorsed by world-class companies such as Sonor, Buttkickers, Beatnik (including his own signature drum pad), Hornet Drumsticks (including his own signature sticks), and Soultone Cymbals.

The antagonism against Dean heated up again in just the last few weeks after he, by invitation, delivered a prayer to open the House session at the Minnesota Legislature.

The Associated Press accused Dean of making "derogatory remarks about gay people," though Dean's prayer made no reference to homosexuality.

The AP explained how the House in Minnesota instructs ministers on the content of their prayers, saying they must be "ecumenical" as well as "interfaith."

Dean acknowledged that his prayer was not on behalf of any denomination, but instead was on behalf of Christians. "The head of the denomination is Jesus as every president up until 2008 has acknowledged," he said.

Finally Dean concluded by stating he believes he is being unfairly used as a scapegoat by elements of the radical leftist gay community, such as Rachel Maddow, to harm the presidential campaign of Michele Bachmann.

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Thu 07/28/11 09:39 AM
anybody can sue anybody for anything, and often do. I'm not sure why this is news (or even interesting. There are a lot of goofy people in the world).

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Thu 07/28/11 09:45 AM

anybody can sue anybody for anything, and often do. I'm not sure why this is news (or even interesting. There are a lot of goofy people in the world).


pretty much... anything can be news, too... they through it out there, and see what bites, that way they know to do it again or not...

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Thu 07/28/11 10:41 AM
"MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and others seized on and accused Dean on her show of supporting the killing of homosexuals, as is the practice in some radical Islamic countries."


Rafeal Madcow is getting some up-and-commings....
Couldn't happen to a nicer Liberal.

Funny how the left loves the LGBT crowd and can't wait to defined the Muslim Fascism that Islam is...

Yes, by Shariah law, Gays are tossed of Tall Buildings, it they survive the fall, they are then Hung.

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Thu 07/28/11 02:54 PM
Rafeal Madcow is getting some up-and-commings....
Couldn't happen to a nicer Liberal.

Funny how the left loves the LGBT crowd and can't wait to defined the Muslim Fascism that Islam is...


Not familiar with a rafeal Madcow. Rachel is gay, so it shouldn't be surprising to you that she would be nice to LGBTs. She doesn't typically defend radical Muslims (any more than she defends goofball white people.)


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Thu 07/28/11 03:05 PM
I dont really watch much of the news 'commentary' type shows, but I thought Maddow was amongst the more respected,,


sad to hear of her misrepresenting someone like that,, IF its true,,,

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Thu 07/28/11 04:36 PM


I think this should happen more often. Too many talking heads get away with this frivolous banter and it should be stopped because it only helps to divide the country. There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.

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Thu 07/28/11 04:38 PM
There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.

These are the folks who should have their Polling place locked

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Thu 07/28/11 04:44 PM



I think this should happen more often. Too many talking heads get away with this frivolous banter and it should be stopped because it only helps to divide the country. There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.



I agree, there is not enough accountability in reporting 'news' anymore.

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Thu 07/28/11 04:58 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Thu 07/28/11 04:59 PM
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Thu 07/28/11 05:01 PM

There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.

These are the folks who should have their Polling place locked


Not a good sentiment. No one should be prevented from voting. No onenoway

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Thu 07/28/11 05:03 PM
As to the OP, I don't watch her show but I am sure that all reporting type news can come across a bad story now and then.

At least it is not like the Fox News Channel which has faux news every day.

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Thu 07/28/11 05:28 PM
Funny ... especially since just three months ago, there was this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/20/bradlee-deans-obama-slur-on-minnesota-house-floor-sparks-uproar.html

I wonder if Mr. Dean is so hardcore anti-gay because he woke up one day next to a dude after a night of drug use on the road ...

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Thu 07/28/11 05:33 PM


There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.

These are the folks who should have their Polling place locked


Not a good sentiment. No one should be prevented from voting. No onenoway

so you disagree that felons shouldn't be allowed to vote?

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Thu 07/28/11 05:47 PM

Funny ... especially since just three months ago, there was this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/20/bradlee-deans-obama-slur-on-minnesota-house-floor-sparks-uproar.html

I wonder if Mr. Dean is so hardcore anti-gay because he woke up one day next to a dude after a night of drug use on the road ...


what think :laughing:

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Thu 07/28/11 05:49 PM



There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.

These are the folks who should have their Polling place locked


Not a good sentiment. No one should be prevented from voting. No onenoway

so you disagree that felons shouldn't be allowed to vote?


Once you have done the time, you should be able to vote for sure. Not from jail though since it is already too hard for the jail keepers to do their job.

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Fri 07/29/11 06:51 AM




There are huge numbers of people in this country who believe everything they read and hear.

These are the folks who should have their Polling place locked


Not a good sentiment. No one should be prevented from voting. No onenoway

so you disagree that felons shouldn't be allowed to vote?


Once you have done the time, you should be able to vote for sure. Not from jail though since it is already too hard for the jail keepers to do their job.



i'm not really sure why thats even a law... i guess for crime deterrent...

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Fri 07/29/11 09:35 AM

i'm not really sure why thats even a law... i guess for crime deterrent...


Seems kind of silly to me ... as if they're anticipating former felons voting toward legalizing murder or something similar that's never going to happen. Keep them from running for office, ok ... whatever, but voting? They're still citizens.

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Fri 07/29/11 09:48 AM


i'm not really sure why thats even a law... i guess for crime deterrent...


Seems kind of silly to me ... as if they're anticipating former felons voting toward legalizing murder or something similar that's never going to happen. Keep them from running for office, ok ... whatever, but voting? They're still citizens.
More likely some politician was going around gaining support to reform strict laws and getting lots of ex felons voting for him, and someone did not like that so made it illegal.

Just a thought.

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Fri 07/29/11 01:41 PM

I dont really watch much of the news 'commentary' type shows, but I thought Maddow was amongst the more respected,,


sad to hear of her misrepresenting someone like that,, IF its true,,,


Actually she's on of the least respected. She's the Nancy Grace of the political commentaries.

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