If someone worries about limiting the time spent on the first date, I may think that he's just not into me.

luv is in air bt wr???

Are you one of those guys who pays on a date, then whines about it later? Just be upfront about wanting to go dutch.

No. I automatically assume that I'm paying and don't have a problem with it. Just thought that the overall message was funny and true. Most (I said most) women want to do away with the old fashioned concept that they belong in the kitchen while holding onto the idea that the man should provide for everything. You can't have it both ways.

Many are ok with going dutch, especially on a first date. Of course, you'll still find those who expect men to pay for everything. You'll just have to decide what kind of woman you want.

Saying you expect to pay, then complaining that women expect you to pay isn't going to get you anywhere.

My best advice is for a first date is the same it has been for years... Go somewhere you know. You will be more relaxed and have a better time than if you are also trying to figure out the lay of the land and control a lot of unexpected variables.

Breakfast or brunch at a local diner, donut shop, or even a mini- Mall counter is not a bad first date. It is safe and if things go well you can end up spending the day.

If you have an idea for a movie, or a fun place to go later you can always add on.

Just try less to wow a gal on the first date and save the pull out all the stops date for when you know all the way down to your boot straps you are head over heels in love. Then it will come off as real and won't make you look like a Peter Pan in love with love or that you are showing off to the girl that really matters.

There is nothing wrong with picnics and going places with out borders and admission fees but you want the person who is with you to be at ease with you and not to have to wonder if she is safe (if you haven't had a scarey date you are lucky but most gals have had at least one or know someone who has) or sweating or her nose is running because of the climate.

And yea if you look like you are too cheap to pay for a plate of eggs , and someone doesn't interest you any more than a look see over coffee don't waste your time or hers.

Flowers, candy, gift cards, Cash, nice romantic meal.
Something along those lines.

I agree, I have never had a date off the internet that wanted to leave early. Meeting for Coffee is not a real date, it is just a meeting.

Right

A HUG DEEPLY PRESSED

Gift cards? Cash? Who is buying whom?

My date is buying and paying for everything not me. I do not date Cheap men, because I like spending money myself. There are still plenty of generous men out there.

I want to ascertain he is not a serial killer.

the prospect of a second date :)

It's a sad world we live in when a first date is to find out if we're seriel killers or not. Lol! But that's a good point; it's best to have a first date in a public place to ease suspitions and nerves.
Thanks,everyone for the feedback!

Well, on my first date we dressed as pirates and fought with cardboard swords. It's moments like that the really stay with one.

Guys, if she says, "let's play doctors and nurses", don't! That gets sticky.

You are exactly right, that is what the experts say.

sorry honey, you are a dreamer, a real men would tell you to take a hike...women pay for me or we go dutch, if they match their profile (which few do) then I'll take the check...