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Topic: Where was God?
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Sun 12/16/12 05:10 PM


Huckabee: Where was God?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2038135300001/huckabee-where-was-god/

Are we beyond needing Him?


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Sun 12/16/12 05:55 PM
Fox News is beyond anything.

Aside from that, religion shouldn't have a public discourse on national news...The problem isn't God, the problem is all of us.

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Sun 12/16/12 06:20 PM
With all due respect to you both i would express my opinion and that is we cannot blame God for everything that happens to us because of the wrong choices we make and the wrong paths we follow.Our sins are increasing day by day and destruction is very near

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Sun 12/16/12 06:24 PM

Fox News is beyond anything.

Aside from that, religion shouldn't have a public discourse on national news...The problem isn't God, the problem is all of us.


People need the Lord. The Word.
Check out the President's Newtown Memorial speech.

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Sun 12/16/12 06:26 PM
If you want to bring God into a discussion about the shooting in Connecticut, then I prefer the following explanation:

The worst form of child abuse is child murder. Nineteen little children were murdered in the Oklahoma City Bombing of 1995. During the national memorial service that followed, four clergymen from three major faiths spoke, one of the men being Billy Graham. None of them were able to answer the question “Why God?” - not the Muslim cleric, not the Jewish rabbi, not the Christian pastor, not even Billy Graham.

The lack of an answer frustrates all of us. The carnal person is not willing to accept “I do not know” as an answer. Christian author Jerry Bridges comments on the reason for this frustration:

“As we watch tragic events unfolding, or more particularly as we experience adversity ourselves, we often are prone to ask God, ‘Why?’ The reason we ask is because we do not see any possible good to us or glory to God that can come from the particular adverse circumstances that have come upon us or our loved ones.”*

Our inability to come up with an answer to “Why?” is due to the fact that our way of thinking is not the same as God's way of thinking.

Isaiah 55:8-9: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

This answer from the Bible leaves some people unsatisfied because the carnal person does not acknowledge God's superiority and sovereignty. For those of us who do, it is still okay for us to ask “Why God?” Such is the cry of the heart.


Quote Source

*Jerry Bridges, Trusting God Even When Life Hurts (NavPress:1988), p. 119.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 12/16/12 06:56 PM


Fox News is beyond anything.

Aside from that, religion shouldn't have a public discourse on national news...The problem isn't God, the problem is all of us.


People need the Lord. The Word.
Check out the President's Newtown Memorial speech.



Some people need the Lord, some people need certainty.

I'm the curious one on the corner preaching doubt.

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Sun 12/16/12 07:22 PM



Huckabee: Where was God?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2038135300001/huckabee-where-was-god/

Are we beyond needing Him?





Nice video. Good points too.



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Sun 12/16/12 07:29 PM

If you want to bring God into a discussion about the shooting in Connecticut, then I prefer the following explanation:

The worst form of child abuse is child murder. Nineteen little children were murdered in the Oklahoma City Bombing of 1995. During the national memorial service that followed, four clergymen from three major faiths spoke, one of the men being Billy Graham. None of them were able to answer the question “Why God?” - not the Muslim cleric, not the Jewish rabbi, not the Christian pastor, not even Billy Graham.

The lack of an answer frustrates all of us. The carnal person is not willing to accept “I do not know” as an answer. Christian author Jerry Bridges comments on the reason for this frustration:

“As we watch tragic events unfolding, or more particularly as we experience adversity ourselves, we often are prone to ask God, ‘Why?’ The reason we ask is because we do not see any possible good to us or glory to God that can come from the particular adverse circumstances that have come upon us or our loved ones.”*

Our inability to come up with an answer to “Why?” is due to the fact that our way of thinking is not the same as God's way of thinking.

Isaiah 55:8-9: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

This answer from the Bible leaves some people unsatisfied because the carnal person does not acknowledge God's superiority and sovereignty. For those of us who do, it is still okay for us to ask “Why God?” Such is the cry of the heart.


Quote Source

*Jerry Bridges, Trusting God Even When Life Hurts (NavPress:1988), p. 119.



this, is heartwarming and beautiful and (for me) the truth

thank you

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Sun 12/16/12 07:42 PM

With all due respect to you both i would express my opinion and that is we cannot blame God for everything that happens to us because of the wrong choices we make and the wrong paths we follow.Our sins are increasing day by day and destruction is very near


Exactly.

It's not God's fault bad things happen. It's the person's fault that did the action. It's called free will. We act/behave on our own what we decide to do or how we decide to do it. WE do that, not God. God doesn't make the person as in the personality, the respect, the care, ect that one may or may not have. God creates the shell. The person creates themselves in what they allow to influence them on how they behave.

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Sun 12/16/12 07:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/16/12 07:57 PM


With all due respect to you both i would express my opinion and that is we cannot blame God for everything that happens to us because of the wrong choices we make and the wrong paths we follow.Our sins are increasing day by day and destruction is very near


Exactly.

It's not God's fault bad things happen. It's the person's fault that did the action. It's called free will. We act/behave on our own what we decide to do or how we decide to do it. WE do that, not God. God doesn't make the person as in the personality, the respect, the care, ect that one may or may not have. God creates the shell. The person creates themselves in what they allow to influence them on how they behave.



The law of cause and effect. What goes around comes around.

People who don't take responsibility for their thoughts and actions and then try to blame God (or anyone else) just don't get it.

Law of attraction.




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Sun 12/16/12 08:19 PM

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Sun 12/16/12 08:32 PM



With all due respect to you both i would express my opinion and that is we cannot blame God for everything that happens to us because of the wrong choices we make and the wrong paths we follow.Our sins are increasing day by day and destruction is very near


Exactly.

It's not God's fault bad things happen. It's the person's fault that did the action. It's called free will. We act/behave on our own what we decide to do or how we decide to do it. WE do that, not God. God doesn't make the person as in the personality, the respect, the care, ect that one may or may not have. God creates the shell. The person creates themselves in what they allow to influence them on how they behave.



The law of cause and effect. What goes around comes around.

People who don't take responsibility for their thoughts and actions and then try to blame God (or anyone else) just don't get it.

Law of attraction.






I agree, no they don't. And blaming God for something oneself chose to do is about pointless. You might as well be blaming your neighbor for something YOU did, or even better yet blame someone on the other side of the world for something one did or said.

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Sun 12/16/12 09:10 PM



Fox News is beyond anything.

Aside from that, religion shouldn't have a public discourse on national news...The problem isn't God, the problem is all of us.


People need the Lord. The Word.
Check out the President's Newtown Memorial speech.



Some people need the Lord, some people need certainty.

I'm the curious one on the corner preaching doubt.


Preach!

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Mon 12/17/12 02:31 AM
Oh what was that passage from the bible about what (or who) is the devil's playthings?

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 12/17/12 02:43 AM

Oh what was that passage from the bible about what (or who) is the devil's playthings?


Yes, perhaps...But what if there isn't even a devil?

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Wed 12/26/12 06:50 AM
Here is the cold truth:

God was created by man to give reason behind behind all they didn't understand. And to give the weak willed and weak minded comfort, to blindly believe in a fairytale, refuting all facts towards the contrary.

The good thing is, however, slowly that demographic is dying out and eventually, perhaps, mankind will mature and grow up past the point of having to cling to ******** ideology to give reason to their sad little lives.


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Wed 12/26/12 08:31 AM

Here is the cold truth:

God was created by man to give reason behind behind all they didn't understand. And to give the weak willed and weak minded comfort, to blindly believe in a fairytale, refuting all facts towards the contrary.

The good thing is, however, slowly that demographic is dying out and eventually, perhaps, mankind will mature and grow up past the point of having to cling to ******** ideology to give reason to their sad little lives.




Well here's another fact for you GGG. You do realize the knowledge possessed in the bible as in the things it says that have happened in the past, can actually be proven by third party non religious affiliated sources? Even down the world having been totally flooded?

How is it that people are weak minded, or weak willed because they have put their faith in information when you do the same with different history/science books.

You do realize most to all science "knowledge" is taken on faith by the general population It is taken on faith entirely unless that specific person has personally done the experiments themselves.

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Wed 12/26/12 09:37 AM
Edited by Zero_Effected on Wed 12/26/12 09:39 AM




With all due respect to you both i would express my opinion and that is we cannot blame God for everything that happens to us because of the wrong choices we make and the wrong paths we follow.Our sins are increasing day by day and destruction is very near


Exactly.

It's not God's fault bad things happen. It's the person's fault that did the action. It's called free will. We act/behave on our own what we decide to do or how we decide to do it. WE do that, not God. God doesn't make the person as in the personality, the respect, the care, ect that one may or may not have. God creates the shell. The person creates themselves in what they allow to influence them on how they behave.



The law of cause and effect. What goes around comes around.

People who don't take responsibility for their thoughts and actions and then try to blame God (or anyone else) just don't get it.

Law of attraction.






I agree, no they don't. And blaming God for something oneself chose to do is about pointless. You might as well be blaming your neighbor for something YOU did, or even better yet blame someone on the other side of the world for something one did or said.


I agree with the above statements.. many are far too wrapped up with doling out blame while the crux is they can't see(OR accept) their own responsibility in their actions.. or how those actions will have consequences.. my curiosity is what makes 'em feel so entitled?

as for there being a GOD and why he's NOT intervening? easy.. like any good parent (in my opinion) one has to step back and allow their kids to live their lives, make their own mistakes and figure out stuff as they go.. just as we did.. however conversations with GOD allows us the connection many need.. to listen to our plights so in the relating.. we can discover the solutions for ourselves.. his role should be more akin to that of a sounding-board than participant, as it should be..

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Wed 12/26/12 02:56 PM





With all due respect to you both i would express my opinion and that is we cannot blame God for everything that happens to us because of the wrong choices we make and the wrong paths we follow.Our sins are increasing day by day and destruction is very near


Exactly.

It's not God's fault bad things happen. It's the person's fault that did the action. It's called free will. We act/behave on our own what we decide to do or how we decide to do it. WE do that, not God. God doesn't make the person as in the personality, the respect, the care, ect that one may or may not have. God creates the shell. The person creates themselves in what they allow to influence them on how they behave.



The law of cause and effect. What goes around comes around.

People who don't take responsibility for their thoughts and actions and then try to blame God (or anyone else) just don't get it.

Law of attraction.






I agree, no they don't. And blaming God for something oneself chose to do is about pointless. You might as well be blaming your neighbor for something YOU did, or even better yet blame someone on the other side of the world for something one did or said.


I agree with the above statements.. many are far too wrapped up with doling out blame while the crux is they can't see(OR accept) their own responsibility in their actions.. or how those actions will have consequences.. my curiosity is what makes 'em feel so entitled?

as for there being a GOD and why he's NOT intervening? easy.. like any good parent (in my opinion) one has to step back and allow their kids to live their lives, make their own mistakes and figure out stuff as they go.. just as we did.. however conversations with GOD allows us the connection many need.. to listen to our plights so in the relating.. we can discover the solutions for ourselves.. his role should be more akin to that of a sounding-board than participant, as it should be..

Im on board with these.

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Thu 12/27/12 06:33 AM
so if parents knew that one of their children had guns and in route to a school to kill other children...the parents wouldn't intervene or do anything to stop the impending massacre?, but instead would see fit to just step back and allow their child to live their life under the title of "Free Will"

this is insane

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