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Topic: god may be satan
Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 12:51 PM
so,who sets the standard of perfection? Some selfappointed Mouthpiece of God? Humans. Who re those selfappointed?

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 01:00 PM Edited by Denman78 on Thu 02/28/13 01:11 PM
May i ask who created you? God created everything. He created the angels and humans in his image and likeness with free will. He saw it his creation perfect not after adam and eve commited sin( original sin). so,what was the original sin?

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 01:08 PM
so,who sets the standard of perfection? Some selfappointed Mouthpiece of God? Humans. Who re those selfappointed? the same humans that made god in their own image.have u read 1st king where the bible god had to lie

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 01:12 PM
Disobedience

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 01:13 PM
so,who sets the standard of perfection? Some selfappointed Mouthpiece of God? Humans. Who re those selfappointed? the same humans that made god in their own image.have u read 1st king where the bible god had to lie Ah so the false prophet.

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 01:17 PM
God and satan should be one,i mean two spirits in one(talking of duality not trinity or by commission quadraplity).the bible said biblical god is perfect despite some evil acts.god in the bible creates with opposites,male and female,night and day,sun and moon,dry land,wet land,light and dark and lastly good and evil(evil is attributed to satan,good to god,but here we can see they come from one person:god.gen:2:17,1stking 22:19-23):pperfect in the oxford advance learner's is:having everything that is necessary;complete.if thats it,it does not compulsorily mean for something to be perfect it has to be totally good as long as its complete then it should be perfect.the bible also went ahead to say he created human being perfect in his own image.men are filled with good and evil will,it all depend on the one we can suppress to manifest the other.this is just my musing.whats your thought on it? This actually does make logical sense if you believe that God is all things. Eckankar actually taught that the Biblical concept of the earthly God and Satan was two sides to the same entity, and they pictured the last manifestation of God to be pure energy, love and power... and actually connected to all living things. The Urantia book speaks of the entities Satan and Lucifer as two separate entities. The actual manifestation of God as an individual entity is quiet elusive. And as a catholic,we are told that God lives in us-does that mean WE ARE GOD?? The born again christians say,''your lips/mouth are the creator''! What i get from that; i can create anything just by saying the word!! I dont think, us, human beings will ever understand more than we do(nt)! There IS a higher power,BUT,where? Who? Since we go by faith and not actually seen before!! Who ever thought of it all,tamed us! Yes if "God" is all that is, then we are certainly part of that, and when we become fully enlightened we can realize that. That is what many call "God consciousness." Our thoughts and our words do have a lot of power. Nothing is ever invented or created without using thought first. Imagination is the divine spark. this is where i usually end my pondering just like u said,if god is all there is i.e nature,am part of nature then am also a god

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 01:21 PM
so,who sets the standard of perfection? Some selfappointed Mouthpiece of God? Humans. Who re those selfappointed? the same humans that made god in their own image.have u read 1st king where the bible god had to lie Ah so the false prophet. you admit god lied?who did they disobey and what was the order

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 02/28/13 01:33 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/28/13 01:34 PM
Disobedience Yes, God wants all humans to be obedient slaves no matter what. Just obey, or else the penalty is death. Does that sound like a nice guy to you? Sin is disobedience. The wages of sin is death. You disobey, you die. Nice guy this God.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 02/28/13 01:37 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/28/13 01:39 PM
So if this "God" created humans, and he demands that they must obey him or they will suffer the penalty of death, then this actually give weight to the theory that God is an alien who came to the earth and created humans as slaves to work in the gold mines. God is an alien? Well, let's see, he's not human. (Check) He's not from the earth. (Check) He created humans and tells them to obey or die. (check) That sounds about right. God is an alien. He made humans as slaves. Or maybe as pets. In any case, whether you are a slave or a pet, you better obey God or you will be put down.

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 01:46 PM
Disobedience Yes, God wants all humans to be obedient slaves no matter what. Just obey, or else the penalty is death. Does that sound like a nice guy to you? Sin is disobedience. The wages of sin is death. You disobey, you die. Nice guy this God. ha..ha all knowing god who already knows his creatures will disobey him yet will destroy them just like was made of judas son of perdition

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 02/28/13 01:48 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/28/13 01:49 PM
Disobedience Yes, God wants all humans to be obedient slaves no matter what. Just obey, or else the penalty is death. Does that sound like a nice guy to you? Sin is disobedience. The wages of sin is death. You disobey, you die. Nice guy this God. ha..ha all knowing god who already knows his creatures will disobey him yet will destroy them just like was made of judas son of perdition It gives him a chance to appear to be "merciful" by sparing your life,-- but he never lets you forget how much of a sinner you are. This entire world operates on a slave - master mentality and has for centuries.

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 01:52 PM
" then im also god" That is exactly satan believed. To be equal with GOD.

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 01:53 PM
So if this "God" created humans, and he demands that they must obey him or they will suffer the penalty of death, then this actually give weight to the theory that God is an alien who came to the earth and created humans as slaves to work in the gold mines. God is an alien? Well, let's see, he's not human. (Check) He's not from the earth. (Check) He created humans and tells them to obey or die. (check) That sounds about right. God is an alien. He made humans as slaves. Or maybe as pets. In any case, whether you are a slave or a pet, you better obey God or you will be put down. so,where is the free will?

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 01:56 PM
so,who sets the standard of perfection? Some selfappointed Mouthpiece of God? Humans. Who re those selfappointed? the same humans that made god in their own image.have u read 1st king where the bible god had to lie Ah so the false prophet. you admit god lied?who did they disobey and what was the order You reading the bible yet you do not know? Try to read genesis all is there.

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 01:58 PM
Disobedience Yes, God wants all humans to be obedient slaves no matter what. Just obey, or else the penalty is death. Does that sound like a nice guy to you? Sin is disobedience. The wages of sin is death. You disobey, you die. Nice guy this God. God give us the lifespan. Its up to you how you use it. He is JUST in everything.

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 02:03 PM
And for what sake did GOD lie?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 02/28/13 02:11 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/28/13 02:11 PM
So if this "God" created humans, and he demands that they must obey him or they will suffer the penalty of death, then this actually give weight to the theory that God is an alien who came to the earth and created humans as slaves to work in the gold mines. God is an alien? Well, let's see, he's not human. (Check) He's not from the earth. (Check) He created humans and tells them to obey or die. (check) That sounds about right. God is an alien. He made humans as slaves. Or maybe as pets. In any case, whether you are a slave or a pet, you better obey God or you will be put down. so,where is the free will? Consciousness. The more aware you are, the more free will you be able to use... Ignore the slave masters. Freedom is paramount.

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 02:13 PM
And for what sake did GOD lie? to kill ahab of course.didnt u read that ?

Denman78 Joined Sat 03/12/11 Posts: 44	Thu 02/28/13 02:22 PM
So if this "God" created humans, and he demands that they must obey him or they will suffer the penalty of death, then this actually give weight to the theory that God is an alien who came to the earth and created humans as slaves to work in the gold mines. God is an alien? Well, let's see, he's not human. (Check) He's not from the earth. (Check) He created humans and tells them to obey or die. (check) That sounds about right. God is an alien. He made humans as slaves. Or maybe as pets. In any case, whether you are a slave or a pet, you better obey God or you will be put down. so,where is the free will? Consciousness. The more aware you are, the more free will you be able to use... Ignore the slave masters. Freedom is paramount. thats when u can make things happen.no holds barred.thanks for ur initiative.

Winlei Joined Sat 01/26/13 Posts: 4048	Thu 02/28/13 02:30 PM
And for what sake did GOD lie? to kill ahab of course.didnt u read that ? Why did God wants to kill ahab?