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He treat us fairly. God give us ten commandments yet we still disobey. Did we die. NO, NOT YET. There is time for judgement. We still have time to repent. By their disobedience it justs closes the gate of heaven. It reopened when GOD send His son on earth. The death of him gives us the chance to enter heaven again. How many times did you disobey? Yep that fluffy cloud with a castle floating on it just beneath the "firmament"is now back open for business because a renegade rabbi named jesus died for your sins......riiiiight? Problem is i don't accept that a renegade rabbi died for my sins cause i don't accept i can sin because i don't accept the abrahamic trilogy faith.I accept it's all bullsh i t.I don't choose to believe i either accept it or i don't. Its your choice to believe or not. I/We are not forcing you. That's always what people say. But although you don't force anyone to believe, Christianity as a whole implies to people that if you don't accept our doctrine and our savior, you will die and go to hell. Then they say... "But hey, you have the freedom to choose."  Okeee dokeeee.... Let's go over these choices again..... Actually that's right! Nobody takes you to jail if you don't believe like we do, Nothing bad happens if you don't believe like we do! The part of dying and going to "Hell" is simply a warning. Nobody says you must follow Christ. You still have free will to choose. |
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He treat us fairly. God give us ten commandments yet we still disobey. Did we die. NO, NOT YET. There is time for judgement. We still have time to repent. By their disobedience it justs closes the gate of heaven. It reopened when GOD send His son on earth. The death of him gives us the chance to enter heaven again. How many times did you disobey? Yep that fluffy cloud with a castle floating on it just beneath the "firmament"is now back open for business because a renegade rabbi named jesus died for your sins......riiiiight? Problem is i don't accept that a renegade rabbi died for my sins cause i don't accept i can sin because i don't accept the abrahamic trilogy faith.I accept it's all bullsh i t.I don't choose to believe i either accept it or i don't. Its your choice to believe or not. I/We are not forcing you. That's always what people say. But although you don't force anyone to believe, Christianity as a whole implies to people that if you don't accept our doctrine and our savior, you will die and go to hell. Then they say... "But hey, you have the freedom to choose." Okeee dokeeee.... Let's go over these choices again..... Actually that's right! Nobody takes you to jail if you don't believe like we do, Nothing bad happens if you don't believe like we do! The part of dying and going to "Hell" is simply a warning. Nobody says you must follow Christ. You still have free will to choose. On the contrary, Christians will tell you that in order to be saved from death, dying or eternal hell.(depending on what Christian group you are talking about) you MUST accept their savior. All other religions are wrong and all those people will die in the fiery furnace. I say they are wrong, if eternal life exists, it is most likely there for everyone automatically. |
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May I say something...nice?
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Sun 03/24/13 04:10 PM
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God is everything good. God created man in his image. Man's fall was in the Garden of Eden. Man from then on, had a sinful nature. Satan is a deceiver and is everything evil. God has all power over satan.
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First of all u can not prove him wrong cos with God everything is possible... U just present your thoughts and believes about the issue by not criticizing it unless u have a better solution... It is written in the bible... Thy shall not judge else u will be judge first... So young lady no insults cos if his theory is right in the eyes of the LORD... He shall insult u...
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It is interesting that the bible uses the phrase "bright morning star" in reference to two people- Satan and Jesus.
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It is interesting that the bible uses the phrase "bright morning star" in reference to two people- Satan and Jesus. Do you happen to know the verses that do this? |
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It is interesting that the bible uses the phrase "bright morning star" in reference to two people- Satan and Jesus. It is interesting to note that the concept of the “morning star” is not the only concept that is applied to both Jesus and Satan. In Revelation 5:5, Jesus is referred to as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. In 1 Peter 5:8, Satan is compared to a lion, seeking someone to devour. The point is this, both Jesus and Satan, to a certain extent, have similarities to lions. Jesus is similar to a lion in that He is the King, He is royal and majestic. Satan is similar to a lion in that he seeks to devour other creatures. That is where the similarities between Jesus, Satan, and lions end, however. Jesus and Satan are like lions in very different ways. The idea of a “bright morning star” is a star that outshines all the others. Satan, as perhaps the most beautiful creation of God, probably the most powerful of all the angels, was a bright morning star. Jesus, as God incarnate, the Lord of the universe, is THE bright and morning star. Jesus is the most holy and powerful “light” in all the universe. So, while both Jesus and Satan can be described as “bright morning stars,” in no sense is this equating Jesus and Satan. Satan is a created being. His light only exists to the extent that God created it. Jesus is the light of the world (John 9:5). Only Jesus’ light is self-existent. Satan may be a bright morning star, but he is only a poor imitation of the one true bright morning star, Jesus Christ, the light of the world Source - http://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html |
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Evil is a perversion of good.
The Devil (Satan) never created anything. He only perverted what Jehovah God/Jesus already created together. God created Satan. They are not equal/opposites. Satan for example is not everwhere and does not know everything Whereas God is everywhere and knows everything. Remember in Book of Job how Satan presented himself to God after roaming the Earth. God mentioned how great a man JOB was and Satan said, of course he is, you (God) have protected him and blessed him abundantly,' but withdraw your (God's) protection and blessing, and JOB will curse you (God) to your face. God allowed Satan to attack JOB, but Satan was not given permission to take JOB's life. |
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It is interesting that the bible uses the phrase "bright morning star" in reference to two people- Satan and Jesus. Yes, and Satan also is said in the Bible to "Mascarade as an angel of light". Perhaps that is who the Apostle Paul encountered on the road to Damascus? |
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Actually, the reference to the bright morning star in the OT is a reference to the king of babylon
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Edited by
siamese_charlie
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Wed 04/10/13 11:21 AM
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Actually, the reference to the bright morning star in the OT is a reference to the king of babylon Or else it was a prophecy of morning star farms sausage smells good! |
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This is nonsense to me. The bible yes is hard to understand sometimes and we can get the wrong impression but God is love and he is only good. Satan was an angel God had created but he disobeyed God and did his own thing and started becoming evil and started bringing evil into the world.
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He treat us fairly. God give us ten commandments yet we still disobey. Did we die. NO, NOT YET. There is time for judgement. We still have time to repent. By their disobedience it justs closes the gate of heaven. It reopened when GOD send His son on earth. The death of him gives us the chance to enter heaven again. How many times did you disobey? Yep that fluffy cloud with a castle floating on it just beneath the "firmament"is now back open for business because a renegade rabbi named jesus died for your sins......riiiiight? Problem is i don't accept that a renegade rabbi died for my sins cause i don't accept i can sin because i don't accept the abrahamic trilogy faith.I accept it's all bullsh i t.I don't choose to believe i either accept it or i don't. Its your choice to believe or not. I/We are not forcing you. That's always what people say. But although you don't force anyone to believe, Christianity as a whole implies to people that if you don't accept our doctrine and our savior, you will die and go to hell. Then they say... "But hey, you have the freedom to choose." Okeee dokeeee.... Let's go over these choices again..... Actually that's right! Nobody takes you to jail if you don't believe like we do, Nothing bad happens if you don't believe like we do! The part of dying and going to "Hell" is simply a warning. Nobody says you must follow Christ. You still have free will to choose. Read up on some of the early Colonies!  http://mises.org/daily/5964/Coercing-Morality-in-Puritan-Massachusetts Perhaps the bluntest expression of the Puritan ideal of theocracy was the Rev. Nathaniel Ward's The Simple Cobbler of Aggawam in America (1647). Returning to England to take part in the Puritan ferment there, this Massachusetts divine was horrified to find the English Puritans too soft and tolerant, too willing to allow a diversity of opinion in society. The objective of both church and state, Ward declaimed, was to coerce virtue, to "preserve unity of spirit, faith and ordinances, to be all like-minded, of one accord; every man to take his brother into his Christian care … and by no means to permit heresies or erroneous opinions." Ward continued: God does nowhere in His word tolerate Christian States to give toleration to such adversaries of His truth, if they have power in their hands to suppress them … He that willingly assents to toleration of varieties of religion … his conscience will tell him he is either an atheist or a heretic or a hypocrite, or at best captive to some lust. Poly-piety is the greatest impiety in the world.… To authorize an untruth by a toleration of State is to build a sconce against the walls of heaven, to batter God out of His chair.................. If you believe the extreme Christians are not instituting this kind of Regime because of Love for their Fellow-Man,you are deceiving yourself! You need to listen to some of those Leaders instead of just nodding at their Sound! |
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This is nonsense to me. The bible yes is hard to understand sometimes and we can get the wrong impression but God is love and he is only good. Satan was an angel God had created but he disobeyed God and did his own thing and started becoming evil and started bringing evil into the world. 
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yep,something created perfect suddenly turned Evil! Henny Youngmen: "Take my wife. Please!" |
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Edited by
ShiningArmour
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Fri 04/12/13 11:45 AM
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He treat us fairly. God give us ten commandments yet we still disobey. Did we die. NO, NOT YET. There is time for judgement. We still have time to repent. By their disobedience it justs closes the gate of heaven. It reopened when GOD send His son on earth. The death of him gives us the chance to enter heaven again. How many times did you disobey? Yep that fluffy cloud with a castle floating on it just beneath the "firmament"is now back open for business because a renegade rabbi named jesus died for your sins......riiiiight? Problem is i don't accept that a renegade rabbi died for my sins cause i don't accept i can sin because i don't accept the abrahamic trilogy faith.I accept it's all bullsh i t.I don't choose to believe i either accept it or i don't. Its your choice to believe or not. I/We are not forcing you. That's always what people say. But although you don't force anyone to believe, Christianity as a whole implies to people that if you don't accept our doctrine and our savior, you will die and go to hell. Then they say... "But hey, you have the freedom to choose." Okeee dokeeee.... Let's go over these choices again..... Actually that's right! Nobody takes you to jail if you don't believe like we do, Nothing bad happens if you don't believe like we do! The part of dying and going to "Hell" is simply a warning. Nobody says you must follow Christ. You still have free will to choose. Read up on some of the early Colonies! http://mises.org/daily/5964/Coercing-Morality-in-Puritan-Massachusetts Perhaps the bluntest expression of the Puritan ideal of theocracy was the Rev. Nathaniel Ward's The Simple Cobbler of Aggawam in America (1647). Returning to England to take part in the Puritan ferment there, this Massachusetts divine was horrified to find the English Puritans too soft and tolerant, too willing to allow a diversity of opinion in society. The objective of both church and state, Ward declaimed, was to coerce virtue, to "preserve unity of spirit, faith and ordinances, to be all like-minded, of one accord; every man to take his brother into his Christian care … and by no means to permit heresies or erroneous opinions." Ward continued: God does nowhere in His word tolerate Christian States to give toleration to such adversaries of His truth, if they have power in their hands to suppress them … He that willingly assents to toleration of varieties of religion … his conscience will tell him he is either an atheist or a heretic or a hypocrite, or at best captive to some lust. Poly-piety is the greatest impiety in the world.… To authorize an untruth by a toleration of State is to build a sconce against the walls of heaven, to batter God out of His chair.................. If you believe the extreme Christians are not instituting this kind of Regime because of Love for their Fellow-Man,you are deceiving yourself! You need to listen to some of those Leaders instead of just nodding at their Sound! The point I was attempting to make was that its CHOICE. If you are a bank teller and you get a gun shoved in your face, you have a few choices. 1. Do nothing, and get shot. 2. empty the register and hope you don't get shot. 3. Fight...and probably get shot. Same thing here. If man rejects God I believe he ends up in hell. That does not mean there's no choice there at all. You still choose where you go. Besides why would God force people who want nothing to do with him to spend eternity with him? That's not right. Hell is total separation from God, if you want nothing to do with him he gives you what you want. Nobody TODAY is forcing Christianity on anyone, Even in colonial days there was still choice I'm sure. If someone attempts to force you to be christian whats to keep you from lying? Nobody can force anyone to do anything. There is ALWAYS choice. You don't even have to breath...Just go where there is no air! Like say, outer space...or underwater. There is ALWAYS choice. I assume by your post you are not christian. That's fine! You have made a CHOICE! I don't see why there needs to be a debate over choice |
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When we die we would know the only truth.
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God is God, God can never be satan. Please! Fear God for He is wonderful, He is mighty. He sees all.
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Nonesense. Read the bible carefully. This is an insult to God and to us who firmly believe in him. |
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