Topic: god may be satan
oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 02/27/13 03:48 PM

No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.

Winlei's photo
Wed 02/27/13 04:01 PM


No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 02/27/13 04:04 PM



No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.


No one is perfect.

Winlei's photo
Wed 02/27/13 04:09 PM




No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.


No one is perfect.

That, i AGREE.

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Wed 02/27/13 05:54 PM



No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.
You're the closest thing to it, Win! flowerforyou

Thanks for being fun! flowerforyou

Winlei's photo
Wed 02/27/13 06:24 PM




No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.
You're the closest thing to it, Win! flowerforyou

Thanks for being fun! flowerforyou

Now im a clown. Hehe lol. Perfection is not in my vocabulary. I will just give the credit to the dictionary.

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Wed 02/27/13 06:28 PM

God and satan should be one,i mean two spirits in one(talking of duality not trinity or by commission quadraplity).the bible said biblical god is perfect despite some evil acts.god in the bible creates with opposites,male and female,night and day,sun and moon,dry land,wet land,light and dark and lastly good and evil(evil is attributed to satan,good to god,but here we can see they come from one person:god.gen:2:17,1stking 22:19-23):pperfect in the oxford advance learner's is:having everything that is necessary;complete.if thats it,it does not compulsorily mean for something to be perfect it has to be totally good as long as its complete then it should be perfect.the bible also went ahead to say he created human being perfect in his own image.men are filled with good and evil will,it all depend on the one we can suppress to manifest the other.this is just my musing.whats your thought on it?



This actually does make logical sense if you believe that God is all things.

Eckankar actually taught that the Biblical concept of the earthly God and Satan was two sides to the same entity, and they pictured the last manifestation of God to be pure energy, love and power... and actually connected to all living things.

The Urantia book speaks of the entities Satan and Lucifer as two separate entities. The actual manifestation of God as an individual entity is quiet elusive.








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Thu 02/28/13 12:49 AM


God and satan should be one,i mean two spirits in one(talking of duality not trinity or by commission quadraplity).the bible said biblical god is perfect despite some evil acts.god in the bible creates with opposites,male and female,night and day,sun and moon,dry land,wet land,light and dark and lastly good and evil(evil is attributed to satan,good to god,but here we can see they come from one person:god.gen:2:17,1stking 22:19-23):pperfect in the oxford advance learner's is:having everything that is necessary;complete.if thats it,it does not compulsorily mean for something to be perfect it has to be totally good as long as its complete then it should be perfect.the bible also went ahead to say he created human being perfect in his own image.men are filled with good and evil will,it all depend on the one we can suppress to manifest the other.this is just my musing.whats your thought on it?



This actually does make logical sense if you believe that God is all things.

Eckankar actually taught that the Biblical concept of the earthly God and Satan was two sides to the same entity, and they pictured the last manifestation of God to be pure energy, love and power... and actually connected to all living things.

The Urantia book speaks of the entities Satan and Lucifer as two separate entities. The actual manifestation of God as an individual entity is quiet elusive.

Thanks 4 ur contribution jeanie,am not much of a believer in d bible stories but when i read,i try to give meaning to the context.understanding the biblical god as an individual entity is quite elusive bearing in mind his dual behaviors.one time hes all forgiving another time hes furiously vengeful,one time peaceful another filled wit rage etc.bible said hes perfect,i want to agree only if perfection means complete.







Denman78's photo
Thu 02/28/13 12:56 AM

No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.
sorry,probably u dont even read it at all.i dont memorise passages,i make meaning of them,with that they stick.check 1st king 22:19-23

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Thu 02/28/13 01:07 AM





No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.


No one is perfect.

That, i AGREE.
then,no one is created by god,because gen 1:31 says god saw everything he'd made,and indeed it was perfect.so how come u guys aint perfect and u claim ur created by bible god.probably d bible is farce or simply HISstory

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Thu 02/28/13 02:57 AM




No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.

No one is perfect.

By what Standards?

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Thu 02/28/13 03:03 AM
Edited by CremeBrulee on Thu 02/28/13 03:05 AM


God and satan should be one,i mean two spirits in one(talking of duality not trinity or by commission quadraplity).the bible said biblical god is perfect despite some evil acts.god in the bible creates with opposites,male and female,night and day,sun and moon,dry land,wet land,light and dark and lastly good and evil(evil is attributed to satan,good to god,but here we can see they come from one person:god.gen:2:17,1stking 22:19-23):pperfect in the oxford advance learner's is:having everything that is necessary;complete.if thats it,it does not compulsorily mean for something to be perfect it has to be totally good as long as its complete then it should be perfect.the bible also went ahead to say he created human being perfect in his own image.men are filled with good and evil will,it all depend on the one we can suppress to manifest the other.this is just my musing.whats your thought on it?



This actually does make logical sense if you believe that God is all things.

Eckankar actually taught that the Biblical concept of the earthly God and Satan was two sides to the same entity, and they pictured the last manifestation of God to be pure energy, love and power... and actually connected to all living things.

The Urantia book speaks of the entities Satan and Lucifer as two separate entities. The actual manifestation of God as an individual entity is quiet elusive.

And as a catholic,we are told that God lives in us-does that mean WE ARE GOD??
The born again christians say,''your lips/mouth are the creator''! What i get from that; i can create anything just by saying the word!!
I dont think, us, human beings will ever understand more than we do(nt)! There IS a higher power,BUT,where? Who? Since we go by faith and not actually seen before!!
Who ever thought of it all,tamed us!

Winlei's photo
Thu 02/28/13 03:50 AM
May i ask who created you? God created everything. He created the angels and humans in his image and likeness with free will. He saw it his creation perfect not after adam and eve commited sin( original sin).

Winlei's photo
Thu 02/28/13 04:01 AM
To newbiechick:
God is everywhere, He is with us, with the people around us. It does't mean that because He is with us it turns us to be god. To those you hear maybe you just misunderstood or they are wrong in their teaching or they are the antichrist. Faith doesnt mean you see what you believe. Sometimes what you see is desceptive.

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Thu 02/28/13 04:18 AM

To newbiechick:
God is everywhere, He is with us, with the people around us. It does't mean that because He is with us it turns us to be god. To those you hear maybe you just misunderstood or they are wrong in their teaching or they are the antichrist. Faith doesnt mean you see what you believe. Sometimes what you see is desceptive.

My dear,from what i have seen,heard and witnessed,every preacher interpretes the scriptures in their own way-and of recently,to suit their own motives/agenda/selfish ends!
I didnt mean they say''with us''-they say-''in us''!!
One day,if you visit Uganda,try visiting the different churches,you'll see what am talking about!! They only care about earthly prosperity-wealth,riches.....of the world!! Yet,if we look at the Bible,it talks of heavenly riches,wealth of Spirit.....not Porches,Lamboghinis!!

Winlei's photo
Thu 02/28/13 04:25 AM
Agree. I try to visit the church of my siblings and the church of my mother.( church-where they worship). I saw a big difference from what i believed. And i stop going. Haha funny that my family is not united by faith but i do respect them only if they try to put down my religion thats when i put my guard up.

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Thu 02/28/13 04:54 AM


To newbiechick:
God is everywhere, He is with us, with the people around us. It does't mean that because He is with us it turns us to be god. To those you hear maybe you just misunderstood or they are wrong in their teaching or they are the antichrist. Faith doesnt mean you see what you believe. Sometimes what you see is desceptive.

My dear,from what i have seen,heard and witnessed,every preacher interpretes the scriptures in their own way-and of recently,to suit their own motives/agenda/selfish ends!
I didnt mean they say''with us''-they say-''in us''!!
One day,if you visit Uganda,try visiting the different churches,you'll see what am talking about!! They only care about earthly prosperity-wealth,riches.....of the world!! Yet,if we look at the Bible,it talks of heavenly riches,wealth of Spirit.....not Porches,Lamboghinis!!



Like anything else, you have to interpret this for yourself.

You can never go by what someone else says. That's why they say that you should bring your bible to church. So you can look up the scriptures in question and see that they are really there.

I know Christians that disagree with pastors now and again. But most of the time they are right.

Winlei's photo
Thu 02/28/13 05:13 AM





No. It isnt possible. No one can attain what GOD knows. The wisdom He give to lucipher give him the knowledge that he is equal to Him. Ahab? What book and verse and i will read it. Now your speaking of the bible then. I admit i dont memorize every word of the bible. I didnt even finish it yet. Im speaking of what i know.



He is like others, he misunderstands and makes his statements from such. Don't bother yourself about him, he will either understand or not as to his ability.


Yes i know. I am also not perfect.

No one is perfect.

By what Standards?

Everything

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Thu 02/28/13 11:28 AM



God and satan should be one,i mean two spirits in one(talking of duality not trinity or by commission quadraplity).the bible said biblical god is perfect despite some evil acts.god in the bible creates with opposites,male and female,night and day,sun and moon,dry land,wet land,light and dark and lastly good and evil(evil is attributed to satan,good to god,but here we can see they come from one person:god.gen:2:17,1stking 22:19-23):pperfect in the oxford advance learner's is:having everything that is necessary;complete.if thats it,it does not compulsorily mean for something to be perfect it has to be totally good as long as its complete then it should be perfect.the bible also went ahead to say he created human being perfect in his own image.men are filled with good and evil will,it all depend on the one we can suppress to manifest the other.this is just my musing.whats your thought on it?



This actually does make logical sense if you believe that God is all things.

Eckankar actually taught that the Biblical concept of the earthly God and Satan was two sides to the same entity, and they pictured the last manifestation of God to be pure energy, love and power... and actually connected to all living things.

The Urantia book speaks of the entities Satan and Lucifer as two separate entities. The actual manifestation of God as an individual entity is quiet elusive.

And as a catholic,we are told that God lives in us-does that mean WE ARE GOD??
The born again christians say,''your lips/mouth are the creator''! What i get from that; i can create anything just by saying the word!!
I dont think, us, human beings will ever understand more than we do(nt)! There IS a higher power,BUT,where? Who? Since we go by faith and not actually seen before!!
Who ever thought of it all,tamed us!



Yes if "God" is all that is, then we are certainly part of that, and when we become fully enlightened we can realize that. That is what many call "God consciousness."

Our thoughts and our words do have a lot of power. Nothing is ever invented or created without using thought first.

Imagination is the divine spark.

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Thu 02/28/13 12:07 PM
so,who sets the standard of perfection?
Some selfappointed Mouthpiece of God?