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Topic: Zimmerman Murder case
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Tue 07/02/13 04:58 PM

Photo: AP George Zimmerman listens as his defense counsel Mark O'Mara questions potential jurors during Zimmerman's trial in Seminole circuit court in Sanford, Fla. Judge Debra Nelson said Saturday, June 22, 2013, that prosecution audio experts who point to Trayvon Martin as screaming on a 911 call moments before he was killed won't be allowed to testify at trial. Nelson reached her decision after hearing arguments that stretched over several days this month on whether to allow testimony from two prosecution experts.

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Tue 07/02/13 05:03 PM



But, bottom line is. Z carried a gun. Why? If he feared for his life enough to carry a gun, why go out where he feared? A CHL is for personal protection not for patrolling a neighborhood, alone. First thing they will tell you is not to carry a weapon and have a person with you. Z took it upon himself to be a one man patrol. Bad choice.
Guilty.


Yeah, Zimmerman wanted to be a one-man patrol, but does his action really fit the definition of murder?


Well, I you want to murder someone. A good way would be.

1. Carry a loaded gun.
2. Go somewhere fairly isolated at night.
3. Find a victim
4. Shoot them at close range.
5. Claim it was self defense.

Whether that was Z's motive, who knows? Has he shown any remorse for what happened?




it helps as well to allow them one or two good punches first,, and to hit your head on the sidewalk,,,

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Tue 07/02/13 05:05 PM

I don't think he inflicted those head injuries on himself... and Martin was not a child. Young, but he was a lot taller and pretty strong.




1 inch is really not 'alot' taller

and martin didnt inflict the gun wound to himeself either

but hitting ones head on the concrete can be self inflicted during a fight near concrete..

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Tue 07/02/13 05:06 PM



I don't think he inflicted those head injuries on himself... and Martin was not a child. Young, but he was a lot taller and pretty strong.


Martin was still legally a minor.

The minor claim flies out the window when dead thug assaults Mr Z



not unless he is charged and z is dead

which isnt the case

otherwise, minors have a right to defend themself too,,,from armed stalkers,,

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Wed 07/03/13 06:48 AM

Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit

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Wed 07/03/13 07:32 AM


Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit
Oh poop!surprised shocked

"In the United States, a citizen grand jury is a non-actionable, non-governmental organization that assumes a responsibility upon itself to accuse an individual or groups of individuals of having committed actionable crimes, in a similar aim as that of official grand juries. Such organizations have been organized by those who espouse conspiracy theories regarding certain events or the individuals who are accused by the citizen grand jury, and most citizen grand jury applications to official judiciary systems at the federal, state, or local and municipal level tend to be thrown out for lack of evidence."WIKI


Problem is,the State doesn't really have to act on it!

Although the activists managed to hand out copies of "indictments" to Congressional staff,[4] the courts have not regarded the "citizen grand juries" favorably. In June 2009, a group of 172 campaigners declared themselves to be a "Super American Grand Jury" and voted to charge Obama with treason and accused him of not being a U.S. citizen.[5] Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia dismissed the "indictment" on July 2, 2009 and declared "[T]here is no authority under the Rules of Procedure or in the statutes of the United States for this court to accept [a presentment]... The individuals who have made this presentment were not convened by this court to sit as a grand jury nor have they been selected at random from a fair cross section of this district. Any self-styled indictment or presentment issued by such a group has no force under the Constitution or laws of the United States."[6]WIKI


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_grand_jury


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Wed 07/03/13 08:05 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 07/03/13 08:11 AM



Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit
Oh poop!surprised shocked

"In the United States, a citizen grand jury is a non-actionable, non-governmental organization that assumes a responsibility upon itself to accuse an individual or groups of individuals of having committed actionable crimes, in a similar aim as that of official grand juries. Such organizations have been organized by those who espouse conspiracy theories regarding certain events or the individuals who are accused by the citizen grand jury, and most citizen grand jury applications to official judiciary systems at the federal, state, or local and municipal level tend to be thrown out for lack of evidence."WIKI


Problem is,the State doesn't really have to act on it!

Although the activists managed to hand out copies of "indictments" to Congressional staff,[4] the courts have not regarded the "citizen grand juries" favorably. In June 2009, a group of 172 campaigners declared themselves to be a "Super American Grand Jury" and voted to charge Obama with treason and accused him of not being a U.S. citizen.[5] Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia dismissed the "indictment" on July 2, 2009 and declared "[T]here is no authority under the Rules of Procedure or in the statutes of the United States for this court to accept [a presentment]... The individuals who have made this presentment were not convened by this court to sit as a grand jury nor have they been selected at random from a fair cross section of this district. Any self-styled indictment or presentment issued by such a group has no force under the Constitution or laws of the United States."[6]WIKI


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_grand_jury




See how easy it is when you control the judges and the court system, with corrupt legislative bodies to back you up?

Thanks to programs like PRISM, and a little thing called "blackmail", justice will NEVER see the light of day!

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Wed 07/03/13 08:57 AM


Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit


A "citizens' grand jury" is a faux grand jury.

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Wed 07/03/13 09:03 AM



Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit


A "citizens' grand jury" is a faux grand jury.


Yep, just a group of citizens voices..... who cares about that when you have the power to write the rules or laws?

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Wed 07/03/13 09:11 AM




Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit


A "citizens' grand jury" is a faux grand jury.


Yep, just a group of citizens voices..... who cares about that when you have the power to write the rules or laws?


When you have a representative form of government, like the one that the USA has, citizens speak through their elected officials.

"Citizens' grand jury" is just another name for a mob of people without torches and pitchforks.

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Wed 07/03/13 09:59 AM





Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit


A "citizens' grand jury" is a faux grand jury.


Yep, just a group of citizens voices..... who cares about that when you have the power to write the rules or laws?


When you have a representative form of government, like the one that the USA has, citizens speak through their elected officials.

"Citizens' grand jury" is just another name for a mob of people without torches and pitchforks.


slaphead "citizens speak through their elected officials"?

Since when have they (elected officials) listened ....I take that back.....PRISM shows they listen to everything.... since when have they "cared" what we are saying or how "their" agendas differ from ours or effect us eaters?

When was the last time we had a voice with those officials other than during their speeches for re-election....that is soon forgotten along with their promises?

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Wed 07/03/13 12:37 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 07/03/13 12:38 PM





Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens' Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/zimmerman-prosecutor-angela-corey-criminally-indicted-by-cit


A "citizens' grand jury" is a faux grand jury.


Yep, just a group of citizens voices..... who cares about that when you have the power to write the rules or laws?


When you have a representative form of government, like the one that the USA has, citizens speak through their elected officials.



What reality are you living in? Have you ever tried to write to or call your senator or congressman? Did you get to chat with him personally? Did he listen or just give you a politically polite brush off?

You are hilarious. laugh laugh




"Citizens' grand jury" is just another name for a mob of people without torches and pitchforks.


Yes, a mob of people whose representatives DON'T LISTEN TO AS USUAL.
laugh laugh

The next step, recall. The next step after that, pitchforks and torches. rofl rofl rofl

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Wed 07/03/13 01:02 PM




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Wed 07/03/13 01:06 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh


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Wed 07/03/13 01:22 PM
Getting back to the main topic . . .

The prosecution has to prove that Zimmerman is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

All Zimmerman's attorney has to do is to give the jury a reason to doubt the charge of 2nd-degree murder.

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Wed 07/03/13 03:40 PM

Getting back to the main topic . . .

The prosecution has to prove that Zimmerman is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

All Zimmerman's attorney has to do is to give the jury a reason to doubt the charge of 2nd-degree murder.


No kidding.

Hey we all watch Law and order. spock

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Wed 07/03/13 04:45 PM
The judge is prejudice against Mr Z.

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Wed 07/03/13 05:29 PM

Getting back to the main topic . . .

The prosecution has to prove that Zimmerman is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

All Zimmerman's attorney has to do is to give the jury a reason to doubt the charge of 2nd-degree murder.



yep

1. (Victim) is dead. TREYVON IS DEAD.

2. The death was caused by the criminal act of (defendant). ZIMMERMAN SHOT TREYVON

3. There was an unlawful killing of (victim) by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.

NOT MUCH REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE TO STALK SOMEONE ARMED WITH A GUN AFTER BEING WARNED IT WAS DANGEROUS and asked to stay in the car BY 911


..it can meet the requirements

but its up to how the jurors interpret what the evidence means,,,,

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Wed 07/03/13 06:35 PM

The judge is prejudice against Mr Z.


Yea but, the jury will call it. I watched a little of it today and to me the prosecutor is struggling to make his case.

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Wed 07/03/13 06:42 PM

The judge is prejudice against Mr Z.


Sure, when things aren't going the way that you want them to, cry, "Sour grapes!"

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