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Topic: It seems.....
Peccy's photo
Mon 09/23/13 08:08 PM
all has gotten quiet in the media and DC except for the distraction in Kenya............thoughts?

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/23/13 10:19 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/23/13 10:20 PM
the shooting is no longer 'news' since its happened, fatalities already reported, and assailant dead,,, tidbits about the investigation here and there which aren't going to bring anyone back,,,

other events are just more 'current' in terms of being truly NEW,,,news,,,


otherwise,,,


try a search engine, a news search engine?

things are far from 'quiet'



Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/23/13 11:28 PM

all has gotten quiet in the media and DC except for the distraction in Kenya............thoughts?


Obama's gotta find another distraction for his epic failure of a Presidency.

Peccy's photo
Tue 09/24/13 11:01 AM
Interesting - excuses from the far left and venom from the far right. I really expected as much!

willowdraga's photo
Tue 09/24/13 11:52 AM
Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/24/13 12:12 PM

Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.

It's the Dimmocrat POTUS who has overspent!laugh

Peccy's photo
Tue 09/24/13 12:29 PM

Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.
It's Bush's Fault!..........lol Has nothing to do with the fact that Obama has spent spent spent .... Maybe the government needs to shut down for awhile.

Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 09/24/13 01:34 PM

Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/24/13 04:57 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/24/13 05:10 PM


Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:



the future will favor him like it does Reagan,,,,from Forbes

"So is Mr. Obama’s performance on spending quite bad? Yes. But a difference in kind rather than in degree? Over his four fiscal years as president the average outlays-to-GDP ratio is 24.4 percent. During the Reagan years the average was 22.4 percent. Given the Great Recession, this two percentage point difference, though deceivingly very large, isn’t enough to claim that President Obama represents a radical departure from post-war presidents with respect to spending.'


Reagan unemployment jan
1981 7.5
1982 8.6
1983 10.4
1984 8.0


Obama unemployment jan

2009 7.8
2010 9.7
2011 9.1
2012 8.3


Reagan deficit 1982-1985
nearly doubled from 125-212 billion

Obama deficit 2010-2013

decreased from 1.5 trill to 901 bill



...really not anyplace we haven't been before, under republican leadership before,,,

willowdraga's photo
Tue 09/24/13 07:28 PM


Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.
It's Bush's Fault!..........lol Has nothing to do with the fact that Obama has spent spent spent .... Maybe the government needs to shut down for awhile.


Have you seen the charts showing who spent the most and such? It ain't President Obama...

Who raised the debt ceiling the most it hasn't been President Obama....

The facts are disputing that old crap too.

Bush was not a good president. No question there.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/24/13 07:41 PM



Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:



the future will favor him like it does Reagan,,,,from Forbes

"So is Mr. Obama’s performance on spending quite bad? Yes. But a difference in kind rather than in degree? Over his four fiscal years as president the average outlays-to-GDP ratio is 24.4 percent. During the Reagan years the average was 22.4 percent. Given the Great Recession, this two percentage point difference, though deceivingly very large, isn’t enough to claim that President Obama represents a radical departure from post-war presidents with respect to spending.'


Reagan unemployment jan
1981 7.5
1982 8.6
1983 10.4
1984 8.0


Obama unemployment jan

2009 7.8
2010 9.7
2011 9.1
2012 8.3


Reagan deficit 1982-1985
nearly doubled from 125-212 billion

Obama deficit 2010-2013

decreased from 1.5 trill to 901 bill



...really not anyplace we haven't been before, under republican leadership before,,,



not sure where you got your numbers from, but last i heard, we were 16 trillion in debt

InvictusV's photo
Wed 09/25/13 08:58 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Wed 09/25/13 09:00 AM



Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:



the future will favor him like it does Reagan,,,,from Forbes

"So is Mr. Obama’s performance on spending quite bad? Yes. But a difference in kind rather than in degree? Over his four fiscal years as president the average outlays-to-GDP ratio is 24.4 percent. During the Reagan years the average was 22.4 percent. Given the Great Recession, this two percentage point difference, though deceivingly very large, isn’t enough to claim that President Obama represents a radical departure from post-war presidents with respect to spending.'


Reagan unemployment jan
1981 7.5
1982 8.6
1983 10.4
1984 8.0


Obama unemployment jan

2009 7.8
2010 9.7
2011 9.1
2012 8.3


Reagan deficit 1982-1985
nearly doubled from 125-212 billion

Obama deficit 2010-2013

decreased from 1.5 trill to 901 bill



...really not anyplace we haven't been before, under republican leadership before,,,



Interesting..

Here is what you left out..

The Growth Rate of the Economy coming out of the recession..

From 1982 to 1988




from 2009 to 2013




http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:05 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 09/25/13 09:35 AM




Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:



the future will favor him like it does Reagan,,,,from Forbes

"So is Mr. Obama’s performance on spending quite bad? Yes. But a difference in kind rather than in degree? Over his four fiscal years as president the average outlays-to-GDP ratio is 24.4 percent. During the Reagan years the average was 22.4 percent. Given the Great Recession, this two percentage point difference, though deceivingly very large, isn’t enough to claim that President Obama represents a radical departure from post-war presidents with respect to spending.'


Reagan unemployment jan
1981 7.5
1982 8.6
1983 10.4
1984 8.0


Obama unemployment jan

2009 7.8
2010 9.7
2011 9.1
2012 8.3


Reagan deficit 1982-1985
nearly doubled from 125-212 billion

Obama deficit 2010-2013

decreased from 1.5 trill to 901 bill



...really not anyplace we haven't been before, under republican leadership before,,,



not sure where you got your numbers from, but last i heard, we were 16 trillion in debt


I realize that,, and as I said, not anyplace we haven't seen before, and even under a republican

debt now up 50percent (almost) of what it was when he came in (11 trillion)

under Reagan,, debt went up almost 200 percent of wht it was when he came in from 1.1 trill to 2.8 trill

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:07 AM




Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:



the future will favor him like it does Reagan,,,,from Forbes

"So is Mr. Obama’s performance on spending quite bad? Yes. But a difference in kind rather than in degree? Over his four fiscal years as president the average outlays-to-GDP ratio is 24.4 percent. During the Reagan years the average was 22.4 percent. Given the Great Recession, this two percentage point difference, though deceivingly very large, isn’t enough to claim that President Obama represents a radical departure from post-war presidents with respect to spending.'


Reagan unemployment jan
1981 7.5
1982 8.6
1983 10.4
1984 8.0


Obama unemployment jan

2009 7.8
2010 9.7
2011 9.1
2012 8.3


Reagan deficit 1982-1985
nearly doubled from 125-212 billion

Obama deficit 2010-2013

decreased from 1.5 trill to 901 bill



...really not anyplace we haven't been before, under republican leadership before,,,



Interesting..

Here is what you left out..

The Growth Rate of the Economy coming out of the recession..

From 1982 to 1988




from 2009 to 2013




http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth



and,,,?


lets use LIKE charts ,, for stsrters

willing2's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:10 AM
Mr InvictusV.
I see a trend.
No liberal will dispute your findings.
They just cover the facts up with repeated BS.

I find that rather curious.

Are they blowing rectal smoke or just FOS? :wink: laugh

no photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:24 AM

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:32 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 09/25/13 09:35 AM
Dec 31, 1989 6.30%
Dec 31, 1988 7.53%
Dec 31, 1987 7.48%
Dec 31, 1986 5.20%
Dec 31, 1985 7.06%
Dec 31, 1984 9.38%
Dec 31, 1983 11.34%
Dec 31, 1982 3.69%




Mar 31, 2013 3.44%
Dec 31, 2012 3.54%
Dec 31, 2011 3.97%
Dec 31, 2010 4.26%
Dec 31, 2009 0.37%


SOURCE: http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year


in other words, they came in at times in history with different growth TRENDS to begin with


the previous two terms before OBama was an average of 4.7 percent per year in growth

under Obama an average of 3.06 per year


the previous two terms before Reagan was an average of 11.3 percent per year in growth

under Reagan, an average of 7.5 per year

I know, numbers and context are probably just some crazy liberal stuff,,,

InvictusV's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:40 AM





Quiet about what exactly? There has been so much flood coverage here. The only thing I heard about is the crazy Repubs trying to shut down the government again but that doesn't surprise me from them, it is nothing but the same.



True! :thumbsup:



the future will favor him like it does Reagan,,,,from Forbes

"So is Mr. Obama’s performance on spending quite bad? Yes. But a difference in kind rather than in degree? Over his four fiscal years as president the average outlays-to-GDP ratio is 24.4 percent. During the Reagan years the average was 22.4 percent. Given the Great Recession, this two percentage point difference, though deceivingly very large, isn’t enough to claim that President Obama represents a radical departure from post-war presidents with respect to spending.'


Reagan unemployment jan
1981 7.5
1982 8.6
1983 10.4
1984 8.0


Obama unemployment jan

2009 7.8
2010 9.7
2011 9.1
2012 8.3


Reagan deficit 1982-1985
nearly doubled from 125-212 billion

Obama deficit 2010-2013

decreased from 1.5 trill to 901 bill



...really not anyplace we haven't been before, under republican leadership before,,,



Interesting..

Here is what you left out..

The Growth Rate of the Economy coming out of the recession..

From 1982 to 1988




from 2009 to 2013




http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth



and,,,?


lets use LIKE charts ,, for stsrters




haha..

those charts are from the exact same site.

they don't offer bar charts for older target dates..

maybe you should send them an email and complain..

haha..

in response to your 'and'

Fifty-five months after the recession started in July 1981, the Reagan recovery had created 7.8 million more jobs than when the recession started, and real per capita gross domestic product was up by $3,091. Fifty-five months after the recession that began in December 2007, there were four million fewer Americans working than when the recession started, and real per capita GDP was down $803.

The trajectory of household income is even more telling. According to Sentier Research analysis of monthly U.S. Census data, during the current recovery American households have lost more income than they lost during the recession. In December 2007, real median household income was $54,916. It had fallen to $53,508 when the recession ended 18 months later. But by June 2012, real median family income had fallen to $50,964.

During the Reagan recovery from 1981 to 1986, real median household income on an annualized basis rose by $3,380 or 7.7%.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444812704577609863412900388.html





InvictusV's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:48 AM

Mr InvictusV.
I see a trend.
No liberal will dispute your findings.
They just cover the facts up with repeated BS.

I find that rather curious.

Are they blowing rectal smoke or just FOS? :wink: laugh


You are correct, sir.

Complaining about the charts passes for intelligent debate these days.

Liberals are out of their element when the discussion has a logical and statistical representation of the facts.

They are like a fish out of water when they are unable to elicit an emotional response for the purpose of turning that reply into a generalization of your motives... ie.. you are a racist..

The simple fact is that Obama and his parties policies have been the largest impediment to economic growth and job creation.

The charts show this..

That is difficult for the kool aid drinkers to counter..

mightymoe's photo
Wed 09/25/13 09:54 AM

I realize that,, and as I said, not anyplace we haven't seen before, and even under a republican

debt now up 50percent (almost) of what it was when he came in (11 trillion)

under Reagan,, debt went up almost 200 percent of wht it was when he came in from 1.1 trill to 2.8 trill


liberal logic at it's finest...

Reagan- 2.8
-1.1 = 1.7 trillion dollars increase

barry- 11
-16 = 5 trillion dollars... 5,000 billion, or 50,000 million dollars...

your percentages are meaningless...

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