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Topic: Another idiot liberal with power ...and no brains
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 11/28/13 08:10 AM

Air Force Sgt. Matt Pinkerton Fires 2 Fatal Shots at Home Intruder - Now Faces 2nd Degree Murder Charge

Another liberal gun-grabber, a Maryland DA, would rather a citizen die than defend themselves, their family/friends, or their rights, in their own home.

I guess brains and morals aren't required for a position of public trust and safety in this Maryland community......

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/air-force-sgt-matt-pinkerton-fires-2-fatal-shots-home-intruder-now-faces-2nd-degree-murder-charge/

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 11/28/13 08:15 AM


Air Force Sgt. Matt Pinkerton Fires 2 Fatal Shots at Home Intruder - Now Faces 2nd Degree Murder Charge

Another liberal gun-grabber, a Maryland DA, would rather a citizen die than defend themselves, their family/friends, or their rights, in their own home.

I guess brains and morals aren't required for a position of public trust and safety in this Maryland community......

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/11/air-force-sgt-matt-pinkerton-fires-2-fatal-shots-home-intruder-now-faces-2nd-degree-murder-charge/



And now Obozo's pet rock hairy reed went and made it pert near impossible to not confirm more idiot liberals.

msharmony's photo
Thu 11/28/13 08:23 AM
seems if there were/is evidence of a 'broken' door having been 'kicked in',,,,it would/will be a clear case of self defense

they are also kind of screwed for both grabbing a glock but answering the door


hard to prove there wasn't knowledge beforehand and intent,,,unless there is no peephole

,,,,,,further details will emerge,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 11/28/13 09:18 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 11/28/13 09:21 AM
Don't intervene in a crime just run away. Don't try to protect your neighborhood, STFU and run away. A girl getting beaten on the streets by her boyfriend? Run away. An armed robbery? Run away. A suspicious guy wandering your neighborhood? Run away.

Capitulate to the criminals. Give them the high ground. Just run away and let the crime happen. Don't get involved and don't get all heroic just let it happen. If you don't then the law will get you not the criminal. You could and should have just walked away.

That's what they want,and pretty much already achieved here in Europe!

When seconds count,the Police is Minutes away!

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 11/28/13 07:47 PM



When attacks/crimes are being committed there is something called the rule of 9's. The rule of 9's is that police show up 99.999% of the time after the attack/crime has been committed.

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Fri 11/29/13 03:13 AM
More info here.

http://gunsnfreedom.com/air-force-sgt-charged-with-murder-after-shooting-crazed-intruder-in-his-home/


they are also kind of screwed for both grabbing a glock but answering the door


The Glock was picked up the first time that the intruder came to door due to the late hour.

By kicking in door and advancing on homeowner .... he got what was coming to him.

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/29/13 10:47 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 11/29/13 10:50 AM
if someone knocks at an odd hour to make you alarmed

you don't answer it, you call 911


but he did answer it, at that point no threat.

there was an argument and he closed it


than, ALLEGEDLY the door was 'kicked in',,, yet the body was found on the porch


if the man he shot wasn't armed

if there isn't proof of a life threatening altercation,,,


it becomes a suspicious situation at the least and premeditated murder at the worst

,,

no photo
Fri 11/29/13 10:55 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 11/29/13 10:56 AM
In the State of Colorado, if a person breaks into your home we have what we call the "make my day law" and you can indeed shoot them. Armed or not.

I couldn't find information on what state this occurred in.

The point is, a person should not have to be forced into hand to hand conflict with an intruder IN THEIR OWN HOME just because he does not have a gun. Anyway, at two o'clock in the morning there is no way to tell if an intruder has a gun.

So, msharmony you are mistaken and wrong to suggest that "if a person is not armed" you can't shoot him. YES YOU CAN.


Dodo_David's photo
Fri 11/29/13 10:59 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Fri 11/29/13 10:59 AM
From the website reporting the incident:

"We often say it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."

no photo
Fri 11/29/13 11:00 AM
if someone knocks at an odd hour to make you alarmed
you don't answer it, you call 911


Really? How many people do you know who would simply call 911 is someone knocked at their door at an odd hour?

In a city in a high crime area it would probably be a good idea, but how many people do you think would do that, and how would the police like to be called on 911 every time someone knocks on a door at an odd hour?

This thread reminds me that I need to get a peep hole and a dead lock put on my door.


no photo
Fri 11/29/13 11:02 AM

From the website reporting the incident:

"We often say it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."


I don't think its even against the law to shoot non-human alien life forms either.


msharmony's photo
Fri 11/29/13 11:15 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 11/29/13 11:17 AM

In the State of Colorado, if a person breaks into your home we have what we call the "make my day law" and you can indeed shoot them. Armed or not.

I couldn't find information on what state this occurred in.

The point is, a person should not have to be forced into hand to hand conflict with an intruder IN THEIR OWN HOME just because he does not have a gun. Anyway, at two o'clock in the morning there is no way to tell if an intruder has a gun.

So, msharmony you are mistaken and wrong to suggest that "if a person is not armed" you can't shoot him. YES YOU CAN.




problem is, victim was not found in his home,, he was shot dead on the porch,,,

and, as I said, though it depends upon the state

I agree with t hose states that find if you should not be allowed to shoot them dead,,,

or else, you give a lot of otherwise cowardly folks the opportunity to set up others to be shot dead, by provoking them or even just inviting them to their home and claiming they were fearful,,,


no photo
Fri 11/29/13 11:17 AM


In the State of Colorado, if a person breaks into your home we have what we call the "make my day law" and you can indeed shoot them. Armed or not.

I couldn't find information on what state this occurred in.

The point is, a person should not have to be forced into hand to hand conflict with an intruder IN THEIR OWN HOME just because he does not have a gun. Anyway, at two o'clock in the morning there is no way to tell if an intruder has a gun.

So, msharmony you are mistaken and wrong to suggest that "if a person is not armed" you can't shoot him. YES YOU CAN.




problem is, victim was not found in his home,, he was shot dead on the porch,,,

and, as I said, though it depends upon the state

I agree with t hose states that find if you are not in MORTAL DANGER , and someone is unarmed, you cannot shoot them dead,,,




In Colorado if they land on the porch you drag them inside. LOL

Yes there could be something suspicious going on and if it was self defense lets hope they jury finds them non guilty.

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Fri 11/29/13 11:18 AM



than, ALLEGEDLY the door was 'kicked in',,, yet the body was found on the porch




If the door was "kicked in", there would be strong evidence of it. No one has yet challenged that aspect of the story so one could reasonably assume that it's accurate. At least I would think.

And if the door was, in fact, kicked in, that constitutes a very strong threat. Especially to anyone with any training...

The rest is hard to prove. There are multiple witnesses with collaborating stories in the defense and that's all you can go on (besides a broken door). Thing about the legal system is, by design, you shouldn't be imprisoned unless you are PROVEN GUILTY, not just suspected of it.




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Fri 11/29/13 11:21 AM
I don't care if it is my porch, my house, or even if you are at the other end of my lawn....its my property and if I ask you to leave and you advance on my home....the body will be found in my lawn

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/29/13 11:24 AM
proof only means six to twelve people convince each other of your guilt or innocence

again, property shouldn't be worth anyones life,,thats just my opinion

and neither should 'threats' , unless they are deadly ones,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 11/29/13 12:48 PM

Liberals are idiots .....until they're on the receiving end of the argument

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Fri 11/29/13 12:58 PM

proof only means six to twelve people convince each other of your guilt or innocence

again, property shouldn't be worth anyones life,,thats just my opinion

and neither should 'threats' , unless they are deadly ones,,,


maharmony, its not about "property." It is about invasion of your home and your safety. One can justifiably assume that if a person comes to your house in the middle of the night, and breaks down your door after you closed the door on them, that they are a threat.

and If you really think that "property" is not worth anyone's life then why do soldiers in a war die in defense of a hill?

It is basic animal instinct to protect your living area and your family.






Conrad_73's photo
Fri 11/29/13 01:11 PM

proof only means six to twelve people convince each other of your guilt or innocence

again, property shouldn't be worth anyones life,,thats just my opinion

and neither should 'threats' , unless they are deadly ones,,,

and how do you judge the severity of that Threat?
How Maimed or Dead you will end up?slaphead

willing2's photo
Fri 11/29/13 01:11 PM
Liberals love the idea of watching while their kids are raped.

They won't lift a finger en contra.

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