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| Topic: Gender equality? Womens Empowerment? Really? | |
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Both genders believe strongly in gender roles, they just don't want to admit or accept it because they're too busy dreaming of this equality thing that won't ever exist (they don't want equality, they want the power). Girls want Men who are strong, protective, open doors, pay for dinner...and those are all "gender roles". So, if girls are allowed to want manly Men who provide and protect, why cant we guys want a lady-like Woman who is nurturing? Because supposedly it's sexist, and if it is, then women are just as sexist for wanting guys to pay; no double standards now. Divorce and infidelity are skyrocket for a reason (the US has the most divorce in the world, whereas countries which stick to Roles have the lowest).
It's in men's DNA to be providers/protectors, and in women's DNA to be nurturers...and you won't beat thousands of years of DNA. Being a corporate slave until you get laid off is not a wise career; there is no better career for a man than being a husband and father and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother. If you think that's all oppressive, go live in some Middle East areas where women are doormats. 'Old fashioned' does not mean she keeps her mouth shut and fetches beer for him; notice how European and Hispanic women are strong minded and keep their men in check (which is good). Women in the western world were never powerless (bringing humans into this world and raising the family is very empowering). Thus, this empowerment movement is only causing gender warfare, turning men into wimps, and girls into boys. It all leads to high divorce, high infidelity, high household pressure, happy divorce lawyers, domestic violence, men and women against each other, and single parents. Nope, not interested in all that. Married women shouldn't have to work two full time jobs (raising kids is a full time job). Men were created to be strong, so let us do the extra work and fighting off ******** lol. FB= True Poizon |
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well you just answered the question being asked in the tread about who is more intelligent, men or women?
"...and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother." who are you to decide what is or isn't the 'better' career for anyone? |
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Edited by
FearandLoathing
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Sat 04/26/14 10:19 AM
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See...But there are not really gender roles at all though, that concept died with the cavemen.
I didn't bother to read whatever you wrote, just letting you know that this whole "Roles" idea is utter and complete bs. *My dragon burned my shoulder and created a catastrophic typo. |
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that's quite the generalized statement you've thrown out there..
however.. oftentimes one gender or the other has to take on both roles.. in cases of single parents most pointedly.. sometimes by choice, sometimes by circumstances.. and it has absoLUTEly nothing to do with the desire of, OR for, power!  as to the comment about "lady-like women who are nurturing".. any woman can be nurturing(but not all ARE).. does that HAVE to mean they gotta run around looking and acting like Leave it to Beavers mom? that can't always be the way.. and FYI.. the 50's are LONNNNNNNNNG gone!  I'm confused now though.. cuz the next comment talks about women being strong minded and keeping their men in check being as a GOOD thing??? so what if she takes an active role by working to help support the family? is she no longer a "lady"? again.. life circumstances can oftentimes force the need of a secondary provider.. or at times a better provider (IF education levels or job opportunities lean more towards the 'wife') for the record.. NO one sets out in life purposefully intending to be one OR the other(or both).. life conditions many of us down differing paths.. and oftentimes, it's one we would have rather NOT had to take.. speaking to my experience.. I've had to assume both roles as a single parent.. was that a direction I was hoping for? no.. did I do what was needed in assuming my responsibility as a parent? you BET I did.. because I can be the protector AND the nurturer, as well as the provider, does that make me LESS of a Lady? NO.. but a lady can STILL be a lady when she's covered in mud! that said.. my idea of equality is.. whoever gets to the door first.. opens it for the other 
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well you just answered the question being asked in the tread about who is more intelligent, men or women?  "...and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother." who are you to decide what is or isn't the 'better' career for anyone?  audacious lil bugger ain't he
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A lot of women want a career as well though and the second income to have a better lifestyle for themselves and their family. What's she going to do all day when the kids are at school, or do you just think that we should keep them barefoot and pregnant?
My mother pursued her career when my brother and I were old enough to wipe our own bottoms. These days they don't have to pack in their jobs when they have kids because they get maternity leave. My sister's kid is only a year old and she just went back to work. It's all very well to talk about divorce rates and gender roles but people don't want to be trapped in bad marriages. Not all women expect men to pay for things. Many like to pay their own way. I think that they like to be pampered but so do men. Why is it my role to pay for everything? Bollocks to that. If I ask a woman out, alright but it can be her treat sometimes as well. |
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Well....i dont expect to be pampered. I expect to be cared for the same way I would care for him. I dont like being the man of the house! I can financially support my family, be protector, team leader, nurse, house keeper, I've had to be miss fixit (duct tape really does work miracles)! I want the protectiveness and security of a man tho. I dont want to live with abuse or be prisoned. I dont want a lazy user either. I wouldn't ask him to do anything I wouldn't do myself except maybe kill spiders and take a fish off a hook for me! I do believe men and women have roles in a relationship. I think life forces you to change up those roles sometimes. As long as everyone is doing their part im okay with it!
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well you just answered the question being asked in the tread about who is more intelligent, men or women? "...and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother." who are you to decide what is or isn't the 'better' career for anyone? audacious lil bugger ain't he proof that evolution is a selective process... |
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Both genders believe strongly in gender roles, they just don't want to admit or accept it because they're too busy dreaming of this equality thing that won't ever exist (they don't want equality, they want the power). Girls want Men who are strong, protective, open doors, pay for dinner...and those are all "gender roles". So, if girls are allowed to want manly Men who provide and protect, why cant we guys want a lady-like Woman who is nurturing? Because supposedly it's sexist, and if it is, then women are just as sexist for wanting guys to pay; no double standards now. Divorce and infidelity are skyrocket for a reason (the US has the most divorce in the world, whereas countries which stick to Roles have the lowest). It's in men's DNA to be providers/protectors, and in women's DNA to be nurturers...and you won't beat thousands of years of DNA. Being a corporate slave until you get laid off is not a wise career; there is no better career for a man than being a husband and father and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother. If you think that's all oppressive, go live in some Middle East areas where women are doormats. 'Old fashioned' does not mean she keeps her mouth shut and fetches beer for him; notice how European and Hispanic women are strong minded and keep their men in check (which is good). Women in the western world were never powerless (bringing humans into this world and raising the family is very empowering). Thus, this empowerment movement is only causing gender warfare, turning men into wimps, and girls into boys. It all leads to high divorce, high infidelity, high household pressure, happy divorce lawyers, domestic violence, men and women against each other, and single parents. Nope, not interested in all that. Married women shouldn't have to work two full time jobs (raising kids is a full time job). Men were created to be strong, so let us do the extra work and fighting off ******** lol. FB= True Poizon Nothing wrong with discussing the history of the feminist movement...Once you get over your bitterness and do "enough" research to get at least half of the facts right, feel free to contribute.... 
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i like the the fact that you seem to put societal roles in a persons DNA
... DNA has nothing to do with values placed on people in a society, but what people are taught in life are the only values that give it any meaning... if your parents taught you females are a weaker sex, then to you they are, not to everyone else. not all women are nurturers, not all men are stronger... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 04/26/14 12:41 PM
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escercito,
Its never wise to generalize a whole group of people, there are certainly women who are consistent in their belief in equality who will pay for themselves rather than 'expect' to be treated, or who wouldn't put a man down for hitting a woman anymore than for hitting a man, or who wouldn't 'expect' the man to provide the finances for the family,,,, but besides that, I totally agree that the quest to be 'the same' has diminished the relationships between men and women instead of strengthening them we weren't both made to be able to carry babies, we weren't made with equal STRENGTH (physically) because we weren't made to be 'the same' as each other, just to be perfect compliments I think you hit it on the head concerning a quest to have 'power', in the home, in relationships, in life instead of to live in partnership and wholeness,,,I think it is hard for humans not to run on and for the self,, but I do think overcoming that urge is a strong factor in making relationships last |
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How big are these spiders anyway?
What else do you want a man to protect you from? You're making it sound like you live in the jungle or the wild west or something. |
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Both genders believe strongly in gender roles, they just don't want to admit or accept it because they're too busy dreaming of this equality thing that won't ever exist (they don't want equality, they want the power). Girls want Men who are strong, protective, open doors, pay for dinner...and those are all "gender roles". So, if girls are allowed to want manly Men who provide and protect, why cant we guys want a lady-like Woman who is nurturing? Because supposedly it's sexist, and if it is, then women are just as sexist for wanting guys to pay; no double standards now. Divorce and infidelity are skyrocket for a reason (the US has the most divorce in the world, whereas countries which stick to Roles have the lowest). It's in men's DNA to be providers/protectors, and in women's DNA to be nurturers...and you won't beat thousands of years of DNA. Being a corporate slave until you get laid off is not a wise career; there is no better career for a man than being a husband and father and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother. If you think that's all oppressive, go live in some Middle East areas where women are doormats. 'Old fashioned' does not mean she keeps her mouth shut and fetches beer for him; notice how European and Hispanic women are strong minded and keep their men in check (which is good). Women in the western world were never powerless (bringing humans into this world and raising the family is very empowering). Thus, this empowerment movement is only causing gender warfare, turning men into wimps, and girls into boys. It all leads to high divorce, high infidelity, high household pressure, happy divorce lawyers, domestic violence, men and women against each other, and single parents. Nope, not interested in all that. Married women shouldn't have to work two full time jobs (raising kids is a full time job). Men were created to be strong, so let us do the extra work and fighting off ******** lol. FB= True Poizon How narrow minded are you, complete and utter rubbish |
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Both genders believe strongly in gender roles, they just don't want to admit or accept it because they're too busy dreaming of this equality thing that won't ever exist (they don't want equality, they want the power). Girls want Men who are strong, protective, open doors, pay for dinner...and those are all "gender roles". So, if girls are allowed to want manly Men who provide and protect, why cant we guys want a lady-like Woman who is nurturing? Because supposedly it's sexist, and if it is, then women are just as sexist for wanting guys to pay; no double standards now. Divorce and infidelity are skyrocket for a reason (the US has the most divorce in the world, whereas countries which stick to Roles have the lowest). It's in men's DNA to be providers/protectors, and in women's DNA to be nurturers...and you won't beat thousands of years of DNA. Being a corporate slave until you get laid off is not a wise career; there is no better career for a man than being a husband and father and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother. If you think that's all oppressive, go live in some Middle East areas where women are doormats. 'Old fashioned' does not mean she keeps her mouth shut and fetches beer for him; notice how European and Hispanic women are strong minded and keep their men in check (which is good). Women in the western world were never powerless (bringing humans into this world and raising the family is very empowering). Thus, this empowerment movement is only causing gender warfare, turning men into wimps, and girls into boys. It all leads to high divorce, high infidelity, high household pressure, happy divorce lawyers, domestic violence, men and women against each other, and single parents. Nope, not interested in all that. Married women shouldn't have to work two full time jobs (raising kids is a full time job). Men were created to be strong, so let us do the extra work and fighting off ******** lol. FB= True Poizon There are still expectations for gender roles in today's world. The reality is both need to modify how to work with you those expectations to make a happy relationship. Speaking for myself, sure I would love a guy who is a protector. And I have a lot of love to give and I am a caring nurturing person. I'm also a realist and a strong person. Both genders need to be self sufficient. There isn't always the other gender in your life. My dad died when I was seventeen. We had to figure it out and keep going. Being part of the work force, or a strong woman doesn't make me any less nurturing. But it does make me have more expectations of a potential partner in my life as far as being an equal partner. |
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audacious lil bugger ain't he proof that evolution is a selective process... got THAT right.. has anyone else checked out the profile??  oh my.. bahahahahahahahahahaha
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Nothing wrong with discussing the history of the feminist movement...Once you get over your bitterness and do "enough" research to get at least half of the facts right, feel free to contribute.... this round goes to you my dear 
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Nothing wrong with discussing the history of the feminist movement...Once you get over your bitterness and do "enough" research to get at least half of the facts right, feel free to contribute.... this round goes to you my dear Thank you Zee! 
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P.S. folks this is a troll post that is being plastered on sites all over da web.
it is utter drivel....I mean .... whatever....
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Both genders believe strongly in gender roles, they just don't want to admit or accept it because they're too busy dreaming of this equality thing that won't ever exist (they don't want equality, they want the power). Girls want Men who are strong, protective, open doors, pay for dinner...and those are all "gender roles". So, if girls are allowed to want manly Men who provide and protect, why cant we guys want a lady-like Woman who is nurturing? Because supposedly it's sexist, and if it is, then women are just as sexist for wanting guys to pay; no double standards now. Divorce and infidelity are skyrocket for a reason (the US has the most divorce in the world, whereas countries which stick to Roles have the lowest). It's in men's DNA to be providers/protectors, and in women's DNA to be nurturers...and you won't beat thousands of years of DNA. Being a corporate slave until you get laid off is not a wise career; there is no better career for a man than being a husband and father and no better career for a woman than being a wife and mother. If you think that's all oppressive, go live in some Middle East areas where women are doormats. 'Old fashioned' does not mean she keeps her mouth shut and fetches beer for him; notice how European and Hispanic women are strong minded and keep their men in check (which is good). Women in the western world were never powerless (bringing humans into this world and raising the family is very empowering). Thus, this empowerment movement is only causing gender warfare, turning men into wimps, and girls into boys. It all leads to high divorce, high infidelity, high household pressure, happy divorce lawyers, domestic violence, men and women against each other, and single parents. Nope, not interested in all that. Married women shouldn't have to work two full time jobs (raising kids is a full time job). Men were created to be strong, so let us do the extra work and fighting off ******** lol. FB= True Poizon There are still expectations for gender roles in today's world. The reality is both need to modify how to work with you those expectations to make a happy relationship. Speaking for myself, sure I would love a guy who is a protector. And I have a lot of love to give and I am a caring nurturing person. I'm also a realist and a strong person. Both genders need to be self sufficient. There isn't always the other gender in your life. My dad died when I was seventeen. We had to figure it out and keep going. Being part of the work force, or a strong woman doesn't make me any less nurturing. But it does make me have more expectations of a potential partner in my life as far as being an equal partner. I like what you are saying deameranna. but if the OP is worried that a woman might have the means to leave if she is not happy....well if that is why the divorce rate has increased, oh well....now BOTH genders have the means to leave or stay based on the quality of the relationship, NOT financial dependence. |
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P.S. folks this is a troll post that is being plastered on sites all over da web. it is utter drivel....I mean .... whatever.... even the Profile-Pic is of someone else! Has the same Crap up at another Site I am on,with the same Flake-Picture!
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