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Topic: Mass stabbing attack in China
heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 11:11 AM
Note private gun ownership is illegal in China. These kids were sitting ducks. The gun-grabbers will disappointed to learn about this story.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/

What was supposed to be another day of learning at an elementary school in central China instead turned to one of terror, as a man slashed 22 children and one adult with a knife.

The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn. Everyone survived.

Read More: Cries for Gun Control After Shootings Yield Few Policy Changes

Private ownership of firearms is banned in China, making gun crimes rare in the country, according to the Chinese government’s official English language website. Pistols and revolvers are permitted for hunting, and only with permission.

Instead, knives have become the weapon of choice in China. While the United States combats gun violence, China has dealt with a spate of knife attacks in which the victims, while scarred, often survive.

Read Full ABC Coverage of Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

Massacres in public spaces in the United States are most often carried out by white men between the ages of 15 and 25, according to FBI profilers. In China, the knife-wielding assailants are predominantly middle-aged men, who are dissatisfied with their lives and resentful toward society, Yang Yongchao, a psychologist at Zhengzhou No 8 People’s Hospital, told the China Daily.

Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested for the knife attack Friday morning at Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. Local officials said he may be suffering from a psychological illness.

On Thursday, a man was arrested after cutting the faces of several female passengers on a Beijing subway, China Daily reported.

The man, whose surname is Hu, reportedly wanted “revenge on society” after being scorned by a former girlfriend.

While China deals with its crimes at home, the country has largely been critical of U.S. gun violence.

Live Updates: Conn. School Shooting

In its annual human rights report, released in May, the Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China in New York condemned U.S. gun ownership.

“The United States has mighty strength in human, financial and material resources to exert effective control over violent crimes,” the report stated. “However, its society is chronically suffering from violent crimes, and its citizens’ lives, properties and personal security are in lack of proper protection.”

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/16/12 01:37 PM
Anti Gun advocates are sissies who think policy can shield them from the woes of this world. Ya know, none of these so called peace advocates never fought for their freedom. They ASSUME they have the right and privilege for free. They toss our civil rights to Socialism under the pretense it will give them order. All they are looking for is a way to get a leg up on others because these spineless dirt bags are not strong enough to survive in a competitive world. Well, all their cries for more gun control are seemingly falling on rather deaf ears right now. It seems all eyes are beginning to slowly look at the movies and reasons behind crimes for a change rather than willy nilly tossing new laws around when we have too much law in the first place!

The next war we face involving America fighting for our lives I am going to toss anti gun advocates in front of the line so they can face the men who would use guns against us with their good intentions. I hope these people learn to enjoy death or slavery quick because that is all sheep like these have to look foreword to without people willing to fight to protect "Their" freedom to hide behind.

Educated ignorance is the worst of the worst and people like this just chap my hide but good!

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/16/12 01:47 PM
After what happened in China, perhaps we should have knife control. indifferent

willowdraga's photo
Sun 12/16/12 03:03 PM

Note private gun ownership is illegal in China. These kids were sitting ducks. The gun-grabbers will disappointed to learn about this story.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/

What was supposed to be another day of learning at an elementary school in central China instead turned to one of terror, as a man slashed 22 children and one adult with a knife.

The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn. Everyone survived.

Read More: Cries for Gun Control After Shootings Yield Few Policy Changes

Private ownership of firearms is banned in China, making gun crimes rare in the country, according to the Chinese government’s official English language website. Pistols and revolvers are permitted for hunting, and only with permission.

Instead, knives have become the weapon of choice in China. While the United States combats gun violence, China has dealt with a spate of knife attacks in which the victims, while scarred, often survive.

Read Full ABC Coverage of Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

Massacres in public spaces in the United States are most often carried out by white men between the ages of 15 and 25, according to FBI profilers. In China, the knife-wielding assailants are predominantly middle-aged men, who are dissatisfied with their lives and resentful toward society, Yang Yongchao, a psychologist at Zhengzhou No 8 People’s Hospital, told the China Daily.

Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested for the knife attack Friday morning at Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. Local officials said he may be suffering from a psychological illness.

On Thursday, a man was arrested after cutting the faces of several female passengers on a Beijing subway, China Daily reported.

The man, whose surname is Hu, reportedly wanted “revenge on society” after being scorned by a former girlfriend.

While China deals with its crimes at home, the country has largely been critical of U.S. gun violence.

Live Updates: Conn. School Shooting

In its annual human rights report, released in May, the Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China in New York condemned U.S. gun ownership.

“The United States has mighty strength in human, financial and material resources to exert effective control over violent crimes,” the report stated. “However, its society is chronically suffering from violent crimes, and its citizens’ lives, properties and personal security are in lack of proper protection.”


They all lived.

No parents are burying their children though huh?

willowdraga's photo
Sun 12/16/12 03:06 PM
Maybe the kids need to carry knifes in China

and Jr Ak-47s in the US to protect themselves from the legal weapon holders in their country, eh?

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 03:12 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Sun 12/16/12 03:20 PM


Note private gun ownership is illegal in China. These kids were sitting ducks. The gun-grabbers will disappointed to learn about this story.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/

What was supposed to be another day of learning at an elementary school in central China instead turned to one of terror, as a man slashed 22 children and one adult with a knife.

The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn. Everyone survived.

Read More: Cries for Gun Control After Shootings Yield Few Policy Changes

Private ownership of firearms is banned in China, making gun crimes rare in the country, according to the Chinese government’s official English language website. Pistols and revolvers are permitted for hunting, and only with permission.

Instead, knives have become the weapon of choice in China. While the United States combats gun violence, China has dealt with a spate of knife attacks in which the victims, while scarred, often survive.

Read Full ABC Coverage of Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

Massacres in public spaces in the United States are most often carried out by white men between the ages of 15 and 25, according to FBI profilers. In China, the knife-wielding assailants are predominantly middle-aged men, who are dissatisfied with their lives and resentful toward society, Yang Yongchao, a psychologist at Zhengzhou No 8 People’s Hospital, told the China Daily.

Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested for the knife attack Friday morning at Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. Local officials said he may be suffering from a psychological illness.

On Thursday, a man was arrested after cutting the faces of several female passengers on a Beijing subway, China Daily reported.

The man, whose surname is Hu, reportedly wanted “revenge on society” after being scorned by a former girlfriend.

While China deals with its crimes at home, the country has largely been critical of U.S. gun violence.

Live Updates: Conn. School Shooting

In its annual human rights report, released in May, the Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China in New York condemned U.S. gun ownership.

“The United States has mighty strength in human, financial and material resources to exert effective control over violent crimes,” the report stated. “However, its society is chronically suffering from violent crimes, and its citizens’ lives, properties and personal security are in lack of proper protection.”


They all lived.

No parents are burying their children though huh?

Yeah, but some lost fingers and ears. Their parents are stuck helping them with disabilities they'll never fully recover from. But that's beside the point. The point is that gun control not only didn't prevent this tragedy, it left people without tools to adequately defend themselves.

Cars kill many times as many people as guns do. Why don't the same people who hate guns demand vehicles be banned? Both propositions are equally absurd.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 03:36 PM

Maybe the kids need to carry knifes in China

and Jr Ak-47s in the US to protect themselves from the legal weapon holders in their country, eh?

Indeed. An armed society is a polite society. I learned to use a shogun at age 12. With proper training, a gun is as safe as any other tool. It's not the typical gun owner you have to worry about, though. Those of us who own guns take safety VERY seriously.

willing2's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:06 PM


Maybe the kids need to carry knifes in China

and Jr Ak-47s in the US to protect themselves from the legal weapon holders in their country, eh?

Indeed. An armed society is a polite society. I learned to use a shogun at age 12. With proper training, a gun is as safe as any other tool. It's not the typical gun owner you have to worry about, though. Those of us who own guns take safety VERY seriously.

I kept loaded guns in my house.
I talked with all my kids about how dangerous they were. Took them out and had them shoot the 12 gauge. They felt the power and knew to leave them alone.
Told them, if they ever wanted to shoot, just tell me and we'd go out and shoot off all the guns they wanted to handle.

If someone in China had been armed, it probably wouldn't have been as bad as it was.

If a Stoopid Liberal says otherwise, remember, they's just stoopid liberals.
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msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 05:00 PM



Note private gun ownership is illegal in China. These kids were sitting ducks. The gun-grabbers will disappointed to learn about this story.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/

What was supposed to be another day of learning at an elementary school in central China instead turned to one of terror, as a man slashed 22 children and one adult with a knife.

The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn. Everyone survived.

Read More: Cries for Gun Control After Shootings Yield Few Policy Changes

Private ownership of firearms is banned in China, making gun crimes rare in the country, according to the Chinese government’s official English language website. Pistols and revolvers are permitted for hunting, and only with permission.

Instead, knives have become the weapon of choice in China. While the United States combats gun violence, China has dealt with a spate of knife attacks in which the victims, while scarred, often survive.

Read Full ABC Coverage of Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

Massacres in public spaces in the United States are most often carried out by white men between the ages of 15 and 25, according to FBI profilers. In China, the knife-wielding assailants are predominantly middle-aged men, who are dissatisfied with their lives and resentful toward society, Yang Yongchao, a psychologist at Zhengzhou No 8 People’s Hospital, told the China Daily.

Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested for the knife attack Friday morning at Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. Local officials said he may be suffering from a psychological illness.

On Thursday, a man was arrested after cutting the faces of several female passengers on a Beijing subway, China Daily reported.

The man, whose surname is Hu, reportedly wanted “revenge on society” after being scorned by a former girlfriend.

While China deals with its crimes at home, the country has largely been critical of U.S. gun violence.

Live Updates: Conn. School Shooting

In its annual human rights report, released in May, the Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China in New York condemned U.S. gun ownership.

“The United States has mighty strength in human, financial and material resources to exert effective control over violent crimes,” the report stated. “However, its society is chronically suffering from violent crimes, and its citizens’ lives, properties and personal security are in lack of proper protection.”


They all lived.

No parents are burying their children though huh?

Yeah, but some lost fingers and ears. Their parents are stuck helping them with disabilities they'll never fully recover from. But that's beside the point. The point is that gun control not only didn't prevent this tragedy, it left people without tools to adequately defend themselves.

Cars kill many times as many people as guns do. Why don't the same people who hate guns demand vehicles be banned? Both propositions are equally absurd.


I dont hate guns, but I dont love them or like them either, they are tools designed for death (unlike vehicles or knives, which have a purpose beyond death,, transportation and cutting food ,,etc,,)

I dont love or like the idea of taking another human life for any reason

I hope I never will

I understand , in the course of defense, that lives are taken
but I can never understand a passion for being ABLE to intentionally take life away 'in its tracks'

I understand weapons are tools for defense, and I dont HATE that people can legally and should legally be able to have them

I do HATE the extremes people take that necessity of 'defense' to,, with weapons that do such maximum damage with so little effort or thought, and weapons that cause so much SUFFERING

I do HATE that any human being would be willing to or interested in owning and using such tools ,,,

but I dont 'hate' the guns, I hate the mentality that clings to their usage so vehemently and disposes the value of human life just as vehemently,,,

no photo
Sun 12/16/12 05:01 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/16/12 05:02 PM
Note private gun ownership is illegal in China.


Of course it is.

Armenians were forced to turn in all their guns, with stiff penalties if they did not turn in a gun before the systematic genocide of from 1.5 to 3 millions Christian Armenians were killed.

The Armenian genocide begun in 1915, and was the event that inspired Hitler to start killing Jews and people in Poland and anyone else he deemed unworthy to live.

Murder, genocide and mass starvation happens a lot in China. We probably never hear about most of it.

No matter what happens in this country, when they start forcing people to turn in their guns, I would take a look at history.

Do you think the Jews in Israel would turn over all their guns, and weapons? I think not.

Neither should Americans.


willing2's photo
Sun 12/16/12 05:08 PM
I believe all liberals should be required to turn theirs in.smokin

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 05:13 PM

I believe all liberals should be required to turn theirs in.smokin


what would be the litmus test to qualify as 'liberal'?

Im kind of doubting those who dont like guns own guns,,,or that those who do own them dont like them


I also doubt all liberals have the same opinion about guns,,

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/16/12 05:41 PM




Note private gun ownership is illegal in China. These kids were sitting ducks. The gun-grabbers will disappointed to learn about this story.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/

What was supposed to be another day of learning at an elementary school in central China instead turned to one of terror, as a man slashed 22 children and one adult with a knife.

The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn. Everyone survived.

Read More: Cries for Gun Control After Shootings Yield Few Policy Changes

Private ownership of firearms is banned in China, making gun crimes rare in the country, according to the Chinese government’s official English language website. Pistols and revolvers are permitted for hunting, and only with permission.

Instead, knives have become the weapon of choice in China. While the United States combats gun violence, China has dealt with a spate of knife attacks in which the victims, while scarred, often survive.

Read Full ABC Coverage of Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

Massacres in public spaces in the United States are most often carried out by white men between the ages of 15 and 25, according to FBI profilers. In China, the knife-wielding assailants are predominantly middle-aged men, who are dissatisfied with their lives and resentful toward society, Yang Yongchao, a psychologist at Zhengzhou No 8 People’s Hospital, told the China Daily.

Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested for the knife attack Friday morning at Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. Local officials said he may be suffering from a psychological illness.

On Thursday, a man was arrested after cutting the faces of several female passengers on a Beijing subway, China Daily reported.

The man, whose surname is Hu, reportedly wanted “revenge on society” after being scorned by a former girlfriend.

While China deals with its crimes at home, the country has largely been critical of U.S. gun violence.

Live Updates: Conn. School Shooting

In its annual human rights report, released in May, the Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China in New York condemned U.S. gun ownership.

“The United States has mighty strength in human, financial and material resources to exert effective control over violent crimes,” the report stated. “However, its society is chronically suffering from violent crimes, and its citizens’ lives, properties and personal security are in lack of proper protection.”


They all lived.

No parents are burying their children though huh?

Yeah, but some lost fingers and ears. Their parents are stuck helping them with disabilities they'll never fully recover from. But that's beside the point. The point is that gun control not only didn't prevent this tragedy, it left people without tools to adequately defend themselves.

Cars kill many times as many people as guns do. Why don't the same people who hate guns demand vehicles be banned? Both propositions are equally absurd.


I dont hate guns, but I dont love them or like them either, they are tools designed for death (unlike vehicles or knives, which have a purpose beyond death,, transportation and cutting food ,,etc,,)

I dont love or like the idea of taking another human life for any reason

I hope I never will

I understand , in the course of defense, that lives are taken
but I can never understand a passion for being ABLE to intentionally take life away 'in its tracks'

I understand weapons are tools for defense, and I dont HATE that people can legally and should legally be able to have them

I do HATE the extremes people take that necessity of 'defense' to,, with weapons that do such maximum damage with so little effort or thought, and weapons that cause so much SUFFERING

I do HATE that any human being would be willing to or interested in owning and using such tools ,,,

but I dont 'hate' the guns, I hate the mentality that clings to their usage so vehemently and disposes the value of human life just as vehemently,,,


OH PLEASE! Knives evolved FROM KILLING WEAPONS! Guns managed to make swords semi obsolete. But a knife was indeed made for killing! And cars? If it was not for war cars would never have been given a place of prominence in our society. And Aviation as we know it today would not have been considering that flight was nothing more than a curiosity when it was young. When general Doolittle dropped a bomb and sank a ship with it during a experiment conducted during WWI aircraft would have been nothing more than scouts and observation air craft. There is a vehicle purpose made to kill. It isn't a tank either!

Just because you are scared of something does not mean you should not take classes in their use and safety. Understanding goes a long way to control in the first place. What you don't seem to get I think is that people assume more laws means a safer society. It does not.

Am I my brother's keeper? If I knew one of my friends was going to do something this over the bridge I would have stopped him myself if it took me putting a bullet in that person! But then I would be a criminal and I would have to face trial saving the lives of others while taking the life of a potential murderer. Too many of us PRO GUN OWNERS feel that every time something like this happens people go right after our rights to defend ourselves. Education is the only way to end ignorance.

So again AM I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER? Technically not. But when I act to protect my brother from himself what is my reward? There is none (and I am not referring to my blood brother). Hell, Imagine being that poor person seeing a guy hanging from a car with an AK 47 and not having at least a pistol to stop him from spraying a neighborhood down gangster style. he Mexican mafia sure loves that style of Drive by. That is their M.O. or "favored tactic" here.

There are way too many things in our lives that came from military technology. Even our highway system was built out of the need for military mobilization. THAT IS A STONE COLD FACT THERE TOO!

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 05:47 PM
I thought cars were created for TRANSPORTATION

and shoes for protecting our feet

and knives for HUNTING for food and cutting food

but , yes, by all means, people use shoes to walk to their crime
and cars to drive to their crime
and knives to carry out crimes

,,,still being able to use something in the commission of killing, doesnt mean it was designed to be a TOOL for killing

big difference, at least to me it is,,,,


its like the difference of glue and meth,, people get high on glue but it wasnt what it was designed for, unlike meth


and again, I would not propose that guns be 'banned', anymore than I would propose every red blooded, paranoid, bigoted, or mentally ill american have the same access to guns (or evolved weapons like assault rifles or missile launchers)

there is room for some common sense, but we never get to it behind the radicals who either want everyone to be armed with as many weapons as possible, or want noone to have any type of protection

both sides are lunatics, in my opinion

and Im sure IM gonna wait quite a while for either side to use some COMMON Sense and compromising skills to come to a solution that will save lives,,,,

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/16/12 08:02 PM

I thought cars were created for TRANSPORTATION

and shoes for protecting our feet

and knives for HUNTING for food and cutting food

but , yes, by all means, people use shoes to walk to their crime
and cars to drive to their crime
and knives to carry out crimes

,,,still being able to use something in the commission of killing, doesnt mean it was designed to be a TOOL for killing

big difference, at least to me it is,,,,


its like the difference of glue and meth,, people get high on glue but it wasnt what it was designed for, unlike meth


and again, I would not propose that guns be 'banned', anymore than I would propose every red blooded, paranoid, bigoted, or mentally ill american have the same access to guns (or evolved weapons like assault rifles or missile launchers)

there is room for some common sense, but we never get to it behind the radicals who either want everyone to be armed with as many weapons as possible, or want noone to have any type of protection

both sides are lunatics, in my opinion

and Im sure IM gonna wait quite a while for either side to use some COMMON Sense and compromising skills to come to a solution that will save lives,,,,


before WWI vehicles were a minority of work related modes of transportation of the day eg, the horse! In 1900 Theodore Roosevelt chased Pancho Villa into Mexico using America's very first gasoline driven motor-carriages and trucks. The run was a disaster proving to America at the time Gasoline was seriously limited. Horses had the advantage in rough terrain. But then came WWI and although still crude trucks began to show superiority on roads with larger payloads delivered faster.

The Liberty truck, the great grand daddy of the modern pickup truck...



This became this in WWII



and this



^^This picture is from 1940. So 18 wheelers were around before then.^^

Now how to make a car a purpose made killing machine?

Well...



Just that easy!

no photo
Sun 12/16/12 08:04 PM
I read on the Internet that all roads were considered to be "military roads" unless they are on private land and that is why we are required to have driver's licences.

If you are driving on your own land and your own roads, you don't have to have a licence.


AndyBgood's photo
Sun 12/16/12 08:12 PM


I thought cars were created for TRANSPORTATION

and shoes for protecting our feet

and knives for HUNTING for food and cutting food

but , yes, by all means, people use shoes to walk to their crime
and cars to drive to their crime
and knives to carry out crimes

,,,still being able to use something in the commission of killing, doesnt mean it was designed to be a TOOL for killing

big difference, at least to me it is,,,,


its like the difference of glue and meth,, people get high on glue but it wasnt what it was designed for, unlike meth


and again, I would not propose that guns be 'banned', anymore than I would propose every red blooded, paranoid, bigoted, or mentally ill american have the same access to guns (or evolved weapons like assault rifles or missile launchers)

there is room for some common sense, but we never get to it behind the radicals who either want everyone to be armed with as many weapons as possible, or want noone to have any type of protection

both sides are lunatics, in my opinion

and Im sure IM gonna wait quite a while for either side to use some COMMON Sense and compromising skills to come to a solution that will save lives,,,,


before WWI vehicles were a minority of work related modes of transportation of the day eg, the horse! In 1900 Theodore Roosevelt chased Pancho Villa into Mexico using America's very first gasoline driven motor-carriages and trucks. The run was a disaster proving to America at the time Gasoline was seriously limited. Horses had the advantage in rough terrain. But then came WWI and although still crude trucks began to show superiority on roads with larger payloads delivered faster.

The Liberty truck, the great grand daddy of the modern pickup truck...



This became this in WWII



and this



^^This picture is from 1940. So 18 wheelers were around before then.^^

Now how to make a car a purpose made killing machine?

Well...



Just that easy!


Anything is a means to an end. I can kill a man with a dinner plate knowing where to hit him exactly with it. There are three spots on the human body alone that would result in an instant fatality. I can kill with a screw driver or an ice pick. Its easier for an "instant fatality" to use those weapons. Even a rock can be made into a purpose made weapon or wielded as one immediately. Heck, any good piece of pipe can make very short work of anyone.

What I find funny is a fact about martial arts. Its nice to be able to break a board but a board does not hit back. But there is also anther saying, never bring a knife to a gunfight. this is a reflection of the paradox we live with. Here we are civilized and we still cannot get past our animal ways. Ideally we all could be armed with massive firepower to each last one if we all got along just in case ET comes over to be inhospitable. The trick is being strong enough to not turn our defensive weapons against ourselves. Until then we need to be armed or set up with some kind of defensive line to protect ourselves and our own from nut cases. But an armed UNEDUCATED society is far more dangerous than an armed educated society.

willowdraga's photo
Sun 12/16/12 09:30 PM


Maybe the kids need to carry knifes in China

and Jr Ak-47s in the US to protect themselves from the legal weapon holders in their country, eh?

Indeed. An armed society is a polite society. I learned to use a shogun at age 12. With proper training, a gun is as safe as any other tool. It's not the typical gun owner you have to worry about, though. Those of us who own guns take safety VERY seriously.


Yea until your mental health goes down hill or you let it get stolen and someone uses it to kill all the kids at the school down the street.

That logic is so flawed it is actually sick, mentally unwell.


willing2's photo
Sun 12/16/12 09:35 PM
Hey. Barry has killed, or had killed 175 innocent kids with his drones.

Is that cool?

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 09:56 PM

Hey. Barry has killed, or had killed 175 innocent kids with his drones.

Is that cool?


do you have the numbers for every president, or just this one?

was it 'cool' under any other president?

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