who knows. i could be over reacting and there may be more to the story. but i just find it hard to believe they had no other viable option than to kick their door in with a swat team and point guns at their family and shoot their dog. there had to be a more reasonable solution to this.

i've seen pitbulls that were the sweetest dogs you would ever meet. not all pits are vicious killers. a dog is a dog whether its a labrador or a pit. dogs arent born vicious theyre trained to be that way. a buddy of mine breeds pitbulls, not one of his dogs are mean, theyre all lap dogs. its all how you train them.

so they sent a cop and her son cursed at them, so thats a justifiable reason to send a tactical team with assault rifles to kick their door in? doesnt make sense to me.

im already wound archer. this all started over breaking a city ordinance for not having gas turned on at the house, and ended with swat members kickin the door down. thats just abusing authority. there was no reason for that.

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see i can do that too conrad

hahah i knew it! well played gnome, the old misdirection game.

what do i think could have been done instead? how about for starters not sending guys armed with assault rifles on a no knock raid because someone doesnt have gas turned on in their house, that would be good for starters.

maybe send 1 officer, or some kind of city employee to talk to them. and have them knock at the door, instead of kicking it in and shooting their pet and trashing their house while their held at gunpoint.

it would be pretty easy actually IMO. i could think of 10 different ways to do it all without pointing guns at people while shooting their pet and trashing their house. and the rabid dog part is kind of ridiculous IMO, who the hell would keep a rabid animal in their home with their family, that makes 0 sense. me and you usually think alike in most situations, but this is definitely one where we disagree. im finding it hard to believe that your even trying to justify this. that amount of force was in no way needed AT ALL. you dont need assault rifles to ***** at someone over not having their gas turned on, thats just ridiculous. they could have easily send ONE cop there, had him knock on the door and ask the lady to come outside, or ask if he can come in and give her time to put the dog away. this situation could have EASILY been prevented.

her gas was shut off which is against city ordinance, so a swat team raided her house with assault rifles. and it was a no knock raid so the "responsible" pet owners had no time to restrain their dog. a no knock raid with a swat team is beyond insanity for a violation of city ordinance. they act like this lady was on the FBI top 10 most wanted list. SHE VIOLATED A CITY ORDINANCE FOR NOT HAVING GAS IN HER HOUSE. that in no way justifies having a phuking swat team kicking the door in, that is just absurd.



there has been cases where they have shot chihuahuas. any cop who is that afraid of a chihuahua should not be a cop. if your that deathly afraid of a dog the size of a football you have some serious issues and should not be a cop. a cop has NEVER been killed by a dog in the line of duty, but yet kill thousands of dogs every year because they fear that much for their "safety" bull$h1t. and sometimes they arent even at the right house, and they kill the persons pet. or they go onto property that is marked as private and shoot a dog that approaches them, when they shouldnt even be on the property in the first place. like i said i watched a video of a cop who had a dog restrained in one of those catchpole things, the dog schitzed out at first, but eventually calms down. after the dog calms down and is no threat, the cop pulls his weapon and shoots it in the head from 3 feet away. thats f'ing bull$h1t. some people got some serious issues.

its just funny to me how conrad always try to trash other peoples news sources as if theyre un trustworthy. but then he posts stuff from other news sites that i never heard of, but somehow his are always more reliable than anyone elses. like if i post something from reuters, he will post

Conrad_73: reuters

than an hour later he will post something from a site nobody has ever heard of and pass it off as 100% fact.

and he tries to say conspiracy theories arent true, so i show him 10 examples of conspiracy theories that ARE true. and what he does answer with?



as if somehow that proves his point and somehow discredits me. i just find that funny. i guess conrad just has some sort of superior knowledge the rest of us dont have. because he only knows the good news sources and says that things that are facts arent facts and believes himself.

funny conrad, you claim conspiracy theories are just theories. yet i just showed you 10 "conspiracy theories" that were actually true. and what do you do? same exact BS you always do



post a couple laughing smileys and act like that somehow proves your point?

thats the thing, yea $h1t changes, but it always changes for the worse, never the better. thats what i meant when i said nothing will change, we're going to keep going down.

this is ridiculous though, all because her gas was turned off, that justifies a swat team raiding your house? and cops wonder why people hate them?

1
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, escalator of the Vietnam War, never happened
Conspiracy theory: The Gulf of Tonkin incident, a major escalator of US involvement in the Vietnam War, never actually occurred.

It's true. The original incident – also sometimes referred to as the USS Maddox Incident(s) –involved the destroyer USS Maddox supposedly engaging three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats as part of an intelligence patrol. The Maddox fired almost 300 shells.

President Lyndon B. Johnson promptly drafted the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which became his administration's legal justification for military involvement in Vietnam. Problem is, the event never happened.

In 2005, a declassified internal National Security Agency study revealed that there were NO North Vietnamese naval vessels present during the incident. So, what was the Maddox firing at? In 1965, President Johnson commented: “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.”

Worth pointing out: The NSA's own historian, Robert J. Hanyok, wrote a report stating that the agency had deliberately distorted intelligence reports in 1964. He concluded: “The parallels between the faulty intelligence on Tonkin Gulf and the manipulated intelligence used to justify the Iraq War make it all the more worthwhile to re-examine the events of August 1964." (Source 1 | Source 2)

2
Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: Deliberate Non-treatment of Syphilis-Infected Patients
Conspiracy theory: Between 1932 and 1972, the US Public Health Service conducted a clinical study on rural African American men who had contracted syphilis. The Public Health Service never informed these men they had a sexually transmitted disease, nor did they offer treatment, even after penicillin became available as a cure in the 1940s.

Sadly, it's true. Rather than receiving treatment, the subjects of these studies were told they had “bad blood."

When World War II began, 250 of the men registered for the draft and were only then, for the first time, informed they had syphilis. Even then, the PHS denied them treatment.

By the early 1970s, 128 of the original 399 men had died of syphilis and syphilis-related complications, 40 of their wives had the disease and 19 of their children were born with congenital syphilis.

Worth pointing out: A similar experiment conducted on prisoners, soldiers, and patients of a mental hospital in Guatemala actually involved the PHS deliberately infecting the patients and then treating them with antibiotics.
(Source 1 | Source 2)

3
Project MKUltra: CIA Mind Control Program
Conspiracy theory: the CIA ran secret mind control experiments on US citizens from the 1950s until 1973.

It's so true that in 1995 President Clinton actually issued a formal apology on behalf of the US government.

Essentially, the CIA used drugs, electronics, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, verbal and sexual abuse, and torture to conduct experimental behavioral engineering experiments on subjects. The program subcontracted hundreds of these projects to over 80 different institutions, including universities, hospitals, prisons, and pharmaceutical companies.

Most of this was uncovered in 1977, when a Freedom of Information Act exposed 20,000 previously classified documents and triggered a series of Senate hearings. Because CIA Director Richard Helms had most of the more damning MKUltra files destroyed in 1973, much of what actually occurred during these experiments is still unknown and, of course, not a single person was brought to justice.

Worth pointing out: There is growing evidence that Theodore Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber, was a subject of the Project MK Ultra while he was at Harvard in the late 1950s.
(Source 1 | Source 2 | Photo)

4
Operation Northwoods: US military had plans for ‘false flag' Cuban provocation
Conspiracy theory: The Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US military drew up and approved plans to create acts of terrorism on US soil in order to sway the American public into supporting a war against Cuba.

It's true and the documents are out there.

Fortunately, President Kennedy rejected the plan, which included: innocent Americans being shot dead on the streets; boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere; people being framed for bombings they did not commit; and planes being hijacked.

Additionally, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, led by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, planned to fabricate evidence that would implicate Fidel Castro and Cuban refugees as being behind the attacks.

Perhaps most horrifyingly, Lemnitzer planned for an elaborately staged incident whereby a Cuban aircraft would attack and shoot down a plane full of college students. (Source 1 | Source 2)

5
CIA drug trafficking in Los Angeles
Conspiracy theory: During the 1980s, the CIA facilitated the sale of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerrilla army.

It's convoluted and complex, but it's true.

Gary Webb's book Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion outlines how CIA-backed Contras smuggled cocaine into the U.S. and then distributed crack to Los Angeles gangs, pocketing the profits. The CIA directly aided the drug dealers to raise money for the Contras.

“This drug network,” Webb wrote in a 1996 San Jose Mercury News article, “opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles, a city now known as the 'crack' capital of the world. The cocaine that flooded in helped spark a crack explosion in urban America . . . and provided the cash and connections needed for L.A.'s gangs to buy automatic weapons.”

Worth pointing out: On December 10, 2004, Webb committed suicide under suspicious circumstances, namely the fact that he used two bullets to shoot himself in the head.
(Source | Photo)

6
Operation Mockingbird: Early incarnation of media contro
In the late 1940s, as the Cold War was just getting underway, the CIA launched a top secret project called Operation Mockingbird. Their goal was to buy influence and control among the major media outlets. They also planned to put journalists and reporters directly on the CIA payroll, which some claim is ongoing to this day. The architects of this plan were Frank Wisner, Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, and Philip Graham (publisher of The Washington Post), who planned to enlist American news organizations and journalists to basically become spies and propagandists.

Their list of entrenched agents eventually included journalists from ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International (UPI), Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service, etc. By the 1950s, the CIA had infiltrated the nation's businesses, media, and universities with tens of thousands of on-call operatives.

Fortunately, our media is no longer lured in by corporations and governments to disseminate propaganda and disinformation! (Source 1 | Source 2 | Photo)

7
COINTELPRO: 1960s Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists
COINTELPRO was a series of clandestine, illegal FBI projects that infiltrated domestic political organizations to discredit and smear them. This included critics of the Vietnam War, civil rights leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King and wide variety of activists and journalists.

The acts committed against them included psychological warfare, slander using forged documents and false reports in the media, harassment, wrongful imprisonment and, according to some, intimidation and possibly violence and assassination.

Similar and possibly more sophisticated tactics are still used today, including NSA monitoring (see #10) (Source 1 | Source 2 | Photo)

8
Operation Snow White: The Church of Scientology infiltrated the government and stole information
Operation Snow White is the name given to an unprecedented infiltration of the US government by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s. They stole classified government files regarding Scientology from dozens of government agencies.

In 1977, the FBI finally cracked Snow White open, which led to the arrest and imprisonment of a senior Church official.

The core mission of the program was to expose and legally expunge "all false and secret files of the nations of operating areas" and to enable Church seniors and L. Ron Hubbard himself to "frequent all Western nations without threat." By the end, of course, there was nothing legal about their endeavors. (Source 1 | Source 2 | Photo)

9
National governments/corporations determine global economic policy in secret (TPP, TISA, etc.)
For years, activists who feared a sinister globalist corporatocracy were told they were being paranoid. Maybe they were, and whether you want to call it the New World Order or not: they were right.

On November 13, WikiLeaks released the secret negotiated draft text for the entire TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) Intellectual Property Rights Chapter. It revealed a closed-door regional free trade agreement being negotiated by countries in the Asia-Pacific region, including Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States, and Vietnam.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation says TPP has "extensive negative ramifications for users' freedom of speech, right to privacy and due process, and [will] hinder peoples' abilities to innovate.”

Worth pointing out: In Jun 2014, WikiLeaks revealed the even more far-reaching Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA), a 50-country agreement that will promote unprecedented levels of privatization across the world. The agreement will essentially prevent governments from returning public services into public hands. This could dramatically affect our ability to enact environmental regulations and keep workers safe.
(Source 1 | Source 2)


10
The US Government Illegally Spies On Its Own Citizens
The US Government Illegally Spies On Its Own Citizens
This used to be laughed at as a dystopian fantasy derived from overactive imagination, Orwell's 1984, and a juvenile distrust of the government. When you claimed ‘they' were spying on you, people labeled you a paranoid conspiracy theorist, a tinfoil hat-wearing loon.

Even after it was revealed that the NSA has been illegally eavesdropping on us and collecting our cellphone metadata for over a decade, people hedged on the meaning of it. Yes, they are analyzing our transmissions, but it's under the auspices of national security. ‘In a post 9/11 world,' certain liberties must be sacrificed for the sake of security, right?

It turns out that is patently untrue. Not only is there no evidence that the NSA has protected us from terrorism, there is growing evidence that it makes us more vulnerable. Thanks to revelations about the NSA and their Prism project, we know that the scope of the NSA's eavesdropping is even beyond what many conspiracy theorists originally believed.

In early June of 2014, the Washington Post reported that almost 90% of the data being collected by NSA surveillance programs is from Internet users with NO connection to terrorist activities. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, this is in clear violation of the constitution.

The ACLU is pursuing a lawsuit against the NSA, claiming that the dragnet-style mass collection of data violates the Fourth Amendment right of privacy as well as the First Amendment rights of free speech and association.
(Source | Photo)


so there ya go spielburg, 10 "conspiracy theories" that were actually true.

if a cop ever shot my dog, they would probably end up shooting me as well because i don think i would be able to hold back from trying to kill them. like i said though i watched a video on youtube and these cops had a dog in one of those "catchpole" things and AFTER the dog calms down, the cops shoots it in the head for no apparent reason. like WTF is wrong with these people? any cop that shoots an innocent animal is a grade a scumbag in my book and IMO i would say i hope they go to hell, but i think hell would be too nice for them. and its a fact that over 10,000 dogs per year get killed by police and its also a fact that a cop has NEVER been killed in the line of duty from being attacked by a dog. phucking sickens me to no end. and another funny thing i learned recently, did you know that certain police departments have actually banned cops from having a high IQ rating? its like they want dumb retards patrolling the streets.

Family Raided by SWAT and their Dog Shot for Being Unable to Pay Utility Bill
“This is an example of police overreaching and using excessive force to get a family out of their house"


by Matt Agorist | Free Thought Project | June 6, 2015
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Nothing says Police State USA quite like a SWAT team raiding a family home and killing their dog because they are unable to pay their natural gas bill.

The woman whose dog was killed and home destroyed by SWAT officers is Angela Zorich, and her story about her police state experience will shock the conscious.

According to a federal lawsuit filed this month, Zorich was the victim of a massive military-style raid and subsequent puppycide. The raid was carried out because police said they needed “to check if her home had electricity and natural gas service.”

“This is an example of police overreaching and using excessive force to get a family out of their house,” said Kenneth Chackes to the Riverfront Times, the attorney who represents Zorich.

According to the lawsuit, on April 25, 2014, St. Louis County Police officers came to her house. Her son cussed at them. They inspected the home’s exterior and placed a “Problem Properties” sticker on the front window.

Days after being publicly shamed and labeled by the St. Louis Police Department as a “Problem,” on April 28, Zorich called them to follow up. She was told by police that she was being investigated for failing to have natural gas or electric service; two violations against city code.

Zorich admitted to the police that she did not have gas, but said that she did have electricity. Zorich asked for another inspection to prove that she had the utilities. The officer told her that was fine, but that the investigation would continue.

The next day, on April 29, 2014, the home of Angela Zorich was raided by multiple officers from the St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit.

The Riverfront Times outlines the details of the lawsuit:

Zorich was at home with several family members and her pit bull, Kiya, when a St. Louis County Police Tactical Response Unit burst through the door without knocking, according to her suit. The unit had at least five officers with M-4 rifles, supported by at least eight uniformed officers.

The officers entered so quickly, Zorich’s suit alleges, that Kiya didn’t even have time to bark. A tactical officer fired three shots into the dog, and the dog’s “bladder and bowels released and she fell to the floor.” The dog “was laying on the floor in her own waste and blood struggling to breathe. She had a gaping hole in her chest.”

Zorich claims the officers kept trying to talk to her about the natural gas, but she was focused on her dog, whom she’d raised as a puppy and who (she says) had “never shown agression to any person.”

At one point in the raid, Zorich alleges, an officer pointed his firearm at her son’s head and said “One word, motherfucker, and I’ll put three in you.”

Zorich was subsequently taken into custody at the police station. When she was finally let go and allowed to return to her home, she found to be completely trashed. Beds had been overturned, and items that were once on shelves had been thrown to the floor.

The citations issued to Zorich, which had allegedly justified the heavily militarized raid on her home, were for substandard siding, guard rail, screens, window glass and deck.

A dozen armed men dressed for war, were dispatched to a woman’s home, killed her dog, and kidnapped her because of some moldy wood and her inability to pay her gas bill.

In what world is this considered “justice”?

The apologists will say that Angela Zorich provoked police into this action against her. If she didn’t want to be raided, they will say, she should have just paid her gas bill. The thought of the raid being retaliatory in nature won’t enter their minds.

Named in the lawsuit is the county of St. Louis and two officers, Corey Zavorka and Robert M. Rinck. Her allegations include unlawful seizure and unlawful infliction of emotional distress (for the killing of the dog) and unlawful retaliation.

Hopefully, with her legal team, Zorich gets the actual justice she deserves.


WTF is with police and shooting peoples pets, this happens all the time, even to peaceful pets who pose no threat. i just saw a video on youtube where a cop caught a dog with one of those poles with the loop on the end (not sure what they are called) and after he already caught the dog, shot it in the head for no reason. the dog was a bit schitzed out at first but then completely calmed down, and this @$$hole pulls out his gun and shoots the poor dog right in the head for no reason. and why the phuck are these clowns in costumes military style raiding peoples houses for an unpaid gas bill? anybody who thinks we dont live in a police state, this is a prime example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhxFGq4_u84

the link is a video to a trailer of a movie called "Of dogs and men" based on the epidemic of police killing peoples pets, alot of time for no reason. over 10,000 dogs are killed every year by police, i wonder how many police are killed by dogs every year? NONE, not 1 law enforcement officer has ever been killed by a dog and yet they shoot peoples pets because they "fear for their life". this $h1t is sickening. maybe its just me cause im an animal lover but cops like this should be locked in a straightjacket in a room with padded walls, or die by firing squad like they do to these poor pets.

haha no mocking, just saying. no matter who gets voted in nothing ever changes. the same BS we see today will still continue after oboma is gone.

hahahahhahaa

i hope thats true.

i think gnome gets his orders straight from the top, if we wish to combat the NWO he must first take out the leader..

i agree, alot of theories on this issue are pretty out there, but i do there think there is some people who have way too much money and control issues.

gnome, you implying that something will change when that date comes?