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"" Federal prosecutors, for their part, insisted Ulbricht deserved far more than the 20- year minimum sentence. In support of their argument, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Serrin Turner and Timothy Howard gave Forrest details of six drug-overdose deaths involving Silk Road drug buyers. They also stressed trial evidence that showed Ulbricht ordered and paid for murder-for-hire plots to protect his operation. Dratel objected, arguing in part that prosecutors failed to show sufficient evidence showing the fatal overdoses were directly linked to Silk Road drug buys. He also noted that prosecutors did not seek a major sentence enhancement for a Silk Road worker who was sentenced to the equivalent of a 14-month prison sentence on Tuesday. Forrest, however, said the issues should be considered in sentencing. She listened as two parents whose children died from Silk Road drug overdoses gave deeply emotional statements about their losses. One victim, an athletic young kayaker identified in a prosecution filing only by his first name, Bryan, was an employee of a small money management firm in Boston. He was found dead in his apartment in early October 2013, within days of Ulbricht's arrest in San Francisco. Bryan's father, Richard, addressed the court and described how his son apparently tried heroin during his senior year in college, then spent the final two years of his life battling drug urges. The grieving father also wrote in a separate victim impact statement that Bryan used his computer to connect with Silk Road, an operation that "eliminated every obstacle that would keep serious drugs away from anyone who was tempted." "Clearly my son made a horrible choice in electing to try heroin in the first place," the father wrote. However, after voicing his grief in a statement that kept the packed courtroom spectators rapt, the father told the court that Ulbricht's motives and creation had none of the theoretical, political or socially redeeming characteristics claimed by the darknet mastermind, his relatives and other supporters. "All Ross Ulbricht cared about was his growing pile of bitcoins," the father said, calling for "the most severe sentence the law allowed." "This is the behavior of a sociopath," he concluded. "" http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/05/29/ulbricht-silk-road-sentencing/28072247/ Played a stupid azz Fed game....won a stupid azz Fed prize..... what people do with the goods once they get them is on them though archer. like i said this guy didnt sell drugs himself. all he did was create a website where people could anonymously buy services or goods with bitcoin. what people posted for sale on there is on them. if i go to mcdonalds and sit there and eat 100 cheeseburgers and die from a stroke, can my family sue mcdonalds and win? or would the judge say if your stupid enough to eat 100 cheeseburgers you deserved it. after all it wasnt mcdonalds that killed me, its was my own stupidity of what i did with the goods that i bought from them. you see what im saying? he didnt overdose those people, they overdosed themselves on the goods they purchased from his website (not directly from him). |
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No, I disagree with you in two ways. First and most important, the fact that worse people have gotten away with less punishment is an entirely WRONG reason to let someone else off the hook. I would have it so that the people who DID get away with murder and worse would have been punished more, but I'm sure not going to let ANOTHER vile person go free because I'm mad about them. Second, this guy purposely made it possible to hurt thousands upon thousands of people, purely for his own profit. He doesn't even have the excuse of spur of the moment bad acts. I don't give a damn how talented he is. The other people you cited who got off with lesser punishments were creative too. All of them CHOSE to use their talents to harm the rest of us. Bye-bye. 1st. im not saying people who GOT AWAY with murder, im saying people who GOT CAUGHT and got less of a sentence than this guy. so you think its more of a crime to merely create a website that allows people to purchase good anonymously for bitcoins? than to rape or murder someone? ok, good logic. 2nd. im not sure how this guy "hurt thousands of people", im pretty sure the phony war on drugs has ruined plenty more lives than this guys website has. if people bought drugs off his website and used them i dont see how that is "hurting" them. he simply offered them a a site to buy goods anonymously. he didnt actually sell drugs himself. nice try though igor. |
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Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht has been sentenced to life in prison
Ross Ulbricht, founder and mastermind of the Silk Road, has been sentenced to life in prison after being found guilty of narcotics conspiracy and other charges earlier this year. Those charges came with a 20-year minimum sentence but no possibility of the death penalty, making life in prison the harshest possible sentence. That's exactly the punishment that Judge Katherine Forrest decided upon, though she admitted it was a "very, very difficult" call to make. Her ruling leaves Ulbricht without any hope of parole. Barring a successful appeal, Ulbricht, 31, will die behind bars. Judge Forrest described Silk Road as "an assault on the public health of our communities." According to Motherboard, the judge launched into an unforgiving teardown of Ulbricht's character as she revealed he'd be locked away for life. "You are no better a person than any other drug dealer. Your education doesn't make you different, and makes this more inexplicable," Judge Forrest said. Ulbricht's request to serve his time in a prison with more relaxed security was also denied during the hearing. Ulbricht has said he plans to challenge the guilty conviction. ""You are no better a person than any other drug dealer."" The charges stem from Ulbricht's management of the Silk Road, which used Tor Hidden Services and Bitcoin payments to create an ostensibly anonymous marketplace for drugs and other goods. Shut down in October of 2013, the Silk Road was the largest marketplace of its kind, and subsequent attempts at similar online marketplaces have been stymied by law enforcement actions and exit scams. The prosecution estimates that the Silk Road handled as much as $200 million in drug transactions, a figure that played prominently into today's sentencing decision. The defense also made an extensive appeal for leniency, citing Ulbricht's ability to contribute to society in spite of his crimes. Ulbricht's team submitted nearly a hundred letters from friends, family, and other acquaintances, testifying to Ulbricht's good character. "I’ve had my youth, and I know you must take away my middle years," Ulbricht wrote in a pre-sentencing statement, "but please leave me my old age." Judge Forrest had a harsh reaction to Ulbricht's plea, describing it as a "display of arrogance that the court takes into consideration." Am i the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? some rapists and murderers get off with lesser sentences. this guy gets 2 life sentences for creating a website that allowed people to exchange bitcoins for services or goods. Silk Road was mainly known as a site that people could anonymously buy drugs using bitcoins, but im not sure the owner ever actually sold drugs himself. given he has no prior record, im pretty sure a first time drug dealer doesnt usually get a life sentence. i feel the judge tried to make an example of him to discourage anyone from trying to start a new "silk road". i really think when he appeals he will be given a lower sentence. anyone have any opinions on this? |
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^^^^^ aint no wine like homemade wine!!
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 SEXY!!! that girls pretty nice looking too.   
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I remember those DIME days!    and an O Z was FORTY bucks!   damn, oz costs me like 250 but its official medical grade stuff. 40$ a oz, id be swimmin in buds! |
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all i have to say for opponents of free speech is:   you know of course that he used to swim naked in the Delaware River....probably scared Betsey Ross half to death...lol whats wrong with swimming naked, i love skinny dippin', when theres ladies also dippin. maybe betsy ross was skinny dippin wit him. |
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Edited by
tomato86
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Fri 05/29/15 05:45 PM
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Someone post the pic of the charcoal drawing of Muhhamed's face, drawn on the camel's @ss. 
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voting for a libertarian is the only way to fix this country. i stand with rand as well as hes the only one who actually gives a damn about the constitution. im sure the media will do whatever they can to make him look bad, as they did his father. watch the youtube video "how the media cheated ron paul out of the presidency". Sorry but voting for a pu$$y is not the way to fix this county. haha coming from the person who just said Lpdon: I think Trump would make an amazing candidate and President. He has awesome stances on dealing with the economy, China, terrorism and foreign policy. really? you think trump would make a good president, and Rand is a pu$$y. you have one of the most diluted minds i've ever come across. werent you the same person who REPEATEDLY said over and over "we dont need anymore 1 term senators" "we need someone with military experience" and yet you endorse Trump, who has neither. haha some people just see the "R" or "D" after the name, and thats all that matters... kinda sad, but true... i hear ya moe, there is just no hope for some people. the same people who say "we need someone with military experience" and "we need someone whos more than a 1 term senator" and then that same person says we should vote for trump. hahaha it gave me a good laugh if nothing else.  
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I have one of those cards, and Argo's right. The cardholder pays the bill for it, and can only get reimbursed for certain expenses--meals lodging and transportation. ATM withdrawals are also allowed, and just because that ATM happens to be in the lobby of a casino or "gentlemen's club" isn't really the government's or taxpayers' business. Until reporters can find instances of reimbursement for lap dances or gambling tabs, then just ignore it. i was thinking maybe the money didnt get paid back, and that was why they made a stink about it. |
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Exactly....before running to jump on the bandwagon (or shall I say tomato wagon) You gotta admit Mater, thats pretty dang funny lol hhaha it is. maybe there really is a tomatowagon, and the government just hasnt told us........... |
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The NSA can suck wind from my rectal cavity.  only if they can take that wind and store it in a database for 5 years. just incase you ever fart something fierce that kills another american. they can run lab tests against your rectal wind to the rectal wind found at the crime scene. |
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tomato86 who says they really stopped i don't believe it they will just run it under a black budget project so they can say i know nothing about it i agree, what we need to do is get all of these traitors out of office and dissolve all these pointless alphabet agencies that do us no good. my god how nice america would be if ron paul wouldnt have been screwed over when running for president. no more IRS no more NSA no more income tax no more federal reserve and we would have had actual freedom. alot of people give ron paul alot of crap because they didnt understand him, and were brainwashed by the MSM to think he was too radical. if people would have looked at what HE said about his policies and not what the MEDIA said about his policies, i feel they would have had a different opinion of him. but he was the only honest politician who stood by his word. never voted to raised taxes, never voted for a congressional pay increase, didnt participate in the ridiculous pension program for congress. certain people like to call him a loon, and yet those same people are advocating that we should vote for donald trump. haha
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 Hey...while scrounging around in the Serv.net emotioncon images I found a little tomato guy just for you >>>  Not that U R angry all the time - or ever really but thought you could put him to use if you wanna! OK...about those 'investment bankers'& your suicide connection issue; could it be that due to the line of work and that they are in and investing other peoples $$$ leaves them with many things to worry about! The pressure just isn't for the 'faint of heart' and as with any job; you've got the boss on your butt - the client on your arse - your family/home life...toss in some dope/drugs and then you really have a mental cocktail that will just expedite that 'NEED TO SUCCEED' perhaps several times  And Tomato - every time the Dow goes from Bull to Bust there are going to be drastic winners & losers - you know this!  Investment Banking Job Description What You'll Do The intensely competitive, action-oriented, profit-hungry world of investment banking can seem like a larger-than-life place where deals are done and fortunes are made. In fact, it's a great place to learn the ins and outs of corporate finance and pick up analytical skills that will remain useful throughout your business career. But investment banking has a very steep learning curve, and chances are you'll start off in a job where the duties are more Working Girl than Wall Street. Wall Street is filled with high-energy, hardworking young hotshots. Some are investment bankers who spend hours hunched behind computers, poring over financial statements and churning out spreadsheets by the pound. Others are traders who keep one eye on their Bloomberg screen, a phone over each ear, and a buyer or seller on hold every minute the market's in session. Traders work hand in hand with the institutional sales group, whose members hop from airport to airport trying to sell big institutions a piece of the new stock offering they have coming down the pipeline. Then there are the analytically minded research analysts, who read, write, live, and breathe whichever industry they follow. Who Does Well You shouldn't go into banking just for the money-the lifestyle is too demanding. To survive in investment banking, much less to do well, you'll need to like the work itself, which requires the research ability of a skilled investigative journalist, the focused attention of a surgeon, and the physical endurance (to withstand the long hours) of a marathon runner. Of course, you also have to have top-notch analytical skills, which allow you to spot market trends and oncoming industry changes. And, quite honestly, even if you love the work, an investment banking career can still be a tough road, especially in recent years. In fact, U.S. News and World Report dropped investment banking from its "Best Careers" rankings in 2009. The magazine sites the financial industry's collapse for "decimating" the job market for I-bankers. If the market or your industry group is in a slump (or if your firm suddenly decides to get out of a certain segment of the business), there's always the chance that you may find a pink slip on your desk Monday morning. Stories coming from the Street these days detail entire groups being called into the boss's office only to be laid off-all at once. Some of the biggest I-banking layoffs of 2008 include 35,000 from Bank of America, and 73,000 from Citigroup. http://www.wetfeet.com/articles/career-overview-investment-banking Now you have a glimmer of why the 'BUSH BOYS' Neal & Georgie baled out of the Savings & Loan when they did and left their companions to take the fall & serve time in the penitentiary for high crimes & misdemeanors {cira 1980's} There's always money to be made --- but the ill gotten gains and temptation to go astray... Oh, LA-LA Snags many a wholesome human!  aha thanks for the tomato i dont know its not only bankers. scientists and bankers and like i said alot of them died under "mysterious" circumstances. some were murdered some hit by cars some plane crash. maybe its nothing but coincidence, very well could be. i just dont see all these people killing themselves and i think it should be explored more with an open mind. and i heard something recently about a doctor who was one of the brightest minds in the world when it came to cancer research, was shot and killed and noone knows who did it or why. call me crazy but i think theres more to this. |
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NaturalNews and BeforeItsNews! whats funny conrad is, if i post something from wikipedia you pop in with your Conrad_73: wikipedia and then the next day you post something from wikipedia as if somehow your wikipedia on your computer is legit but mine isnt. you post stuff all the time from links that you have no idea if are credible or not. |
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RT NEWS http://rt.com/usa/263333-nsa-keep-phone-records/ NSA says it will keep phone records even if surveillance program ends The National Security Agency has said it will lock down and mothball its archive of US citizens’ phone records if its legal authority to go on collecting the metadata expires as it is due to this Sunday. The political and legal dispute will come to a head on Sunday when the Republican controlled Senate will seek a resolution before the law authorizing the controversial NSA spying program expires at 11:59pm. The debate has pitted the Obama administration’s national security team against those who say the surveillance program, which was revealed to the American public by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden in 2013, infringes civil liberties and the US Constitution. The hours leading up to midnight will see a jump in activity at US phone companies and at the NSA as engineers take down servers, monitoring software and hardware from the main optic cables of telephone data traffic, according to several senior officials, the LA Times reports. "We're in uncharted waters. We have not had to confront addressing the terrorist threat without these authorities. And it's going to be fraught with unnecessary risk," said one official, as quoted by the LA Times. Even if the Senate votes to renew legislation that allows for the mass surveillance program to continue, it would take three or four days to get it through the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) before all the computer systems required could be rebooted. Read more NSA director wants ‘maritime’ law for internet http://rt.com/usa/262493-nsa-rogers-maritime-law/ Another official said even a gap of three or four days was “playing national security roulette.” In the unlikely scenario of the Senate voting before 8pm on Sunday in favor of renewing legislation, the NSA could stop the shutdown. But there are many lawmakers that will fight against any renewal of the law. Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky), who is running for a presidential nomination, told supporters on Thursday that he’s determined to “relegate the NSA’s illegal spy program to the trash bin of history where it belongs.” The NSA began the bulk collection of phone records after the September 11 attacks and FISA authorized them in 2006. But after Snowden’s leaks, Obama promised to change the NSA surveillance program. Thus, the so-called USA Freedom Act was born, which passed the house by 338 to 88 on May 13. It involves shifting the burden of holding data to the phone companies, who would then allow the NSA to access it. It would also mean the government would have to obtain a court order to search the records for phone numbers. According to the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, it “preserves the essential operational capabilities of the telephone metadata program and enhances other intelligence capabilities needed to protect our nation and its partners." It would take six months to take effect but could be derailed by Paul and other senators who argue the NSA’s surveillance remit should simply expire. Read more Obama can end NSA bulk surveillance by himself – Rand Paul http://rt.com/usa/262301-rand-paul-obama-nsa-surveillance/ Ever prepared for a worst case scenario from politicians, the NSA has put its planning teams on “hot standby” to prepare to shut down all the networks that connect them to the nation’s phone records. They will also make sure that officials cannot access the archives. If the legal authority expires they would “lock it down with the same certainty with which we operate,” an official said. Along with the bulk collection of metadata, the “roving wiretap” would also expire, this allows the FBI to keep up with terrorists or criminals who use so-called “burner” phones to evade electronic surveillance. The FBI would also lose its “lone wolf” provision which allows them to tap phones of someone they suspect might be involved in terrorist activity, but who is not connected to a known terrorist group. "As we face a decentralized and increasingly dispersed terrorism threat, and one where [Islamic State] is extolling actors to conduct opportunistic attacks, this is not a tool that we want to see go away,” a senior official said. wonder how long they keep them? |
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I left Facebook years ago. I know very very few people that still use it. And keep in mind, they now OWN Whatapp ... which now has the web & a phone system now... * So they can hear as well as read & track... yes,the track feature can be turned on, with your location, without your consent*  they can crack in to anything they want they employee computer experts anything man made can be cracked : ( that's if they just don't scare the company in to giving the stuff to them yea i hear ya, i feel we have no rights though because we just accept it instead of gettin off our @$$es and actually trying to change it. |
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New Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations'
from the and-not-just-terrorists dept A few weeks ago, Glenn Greenwald, while working with NBC News, revealed some details of a GCHQ presentation concerning how the surveillance organization had a "dirty tricks" group known as JTRIG -- the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group. Now, over at The Intercept, he's revealed the entire presentation and highlighted more details about how JTRIG would seek to infiltrate different groups online and destroy people's reputations -- going way, way, way beyond just targeting terrorist groups and threats to national security. Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations” (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information” on various forums. For years, people have said that the purpose of groups like the NSA and GCHQ were merely "signals intelligence," which were about understanding and decoding signals, not about taking any sort of offensive standpoint. However, as the Snowden docs have repeatedly revealed, the mandate of these organizations has long been much more offensively based, and they seem to have little problem with using questionable tactics to destroy people's lives. As Greenwald notes, is this really a power you trust a totally secretive government agency with almost no real oversight to use without it being abused? There's a lot more in Greenwald's writeup, which you should read, but just a few of the key slides are worth reading to get a sense of what's going on here. This isn't just about infiltrating terrorist organizations. They seem to be using these kinds of techniques on just about anyone they dislike, which harkens back to the Hoover-era FBI infiltrating and seeking to discredit anti-war groups. It also raises very serious questions about whether these efforts are being used to stifle political expression. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml |
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