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Warning: NSFW Adam Carolla Brilliantly Identifies Media Bias In Facebook Suicide Story Remember the story about the college kid who killed himself because his roommate outed him on Facebook? Well, now that all the facts have come out, it turns out that isn't what happened. That doesn't change the fact that the Media polluted the jury pool and now this guy is facing 10 years in prison for posting a status on Facebook. Sorry folks with slow connections, but there is no text on that link, it's just a video. well, I Wasnt in the jury room so I Cant testify as to WHY the jury came back with the verdict they did. IF it was based upon media, they didnt follow juror instructions. IT could also have been based upon the facts they were presented,,,after all,,,what was the actual enditement? |
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Let it go to court is also my thoughts and I think before that can happen there has to be an arrest to start the process.
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CHEATING
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I can forgive depending upon the circumstances, our history, and what I know about their character and upbringing. AS unpopular a view as it is , I really do think people can sometimes MESS up bigtime. I think its the exception more than the rule, but I have no steadfast rule to never forgive.
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Zimmeralso said no when the punk approached him and Zimmer tried to walk away. Zimmer did learn from past mistakes me may or may not have made. This kind is a punk and a wannabe tough guy. I have no sympathy for him. he did? were you a witness to what was said? is it logical that a situation that began with person A following person B in a car person B changing directions to lose person A person A then getting out of his car to continue following person B then person B running to put distance between he and person B ,,SUDDENLY just changed to a situation where person B, who twice had retreated already,,, became the PREDATOR of person A who then CLAIMS he decided to finally retreat? ,,not logical to me,,,but I will wait for the facts to show Zimmerman to be a liar and an overzealous bully,,,, Once again, he had a cell phone, if he really felt threatened he would have dialed 9-1-1 or ran to the nearest house or business and got help. No, he wanted to be a tough guy punk and try to be a bad a$$ with his hoodie pulled up (which isn't needed in that area at this time of year when they are having record hot spells. He dressed like a punk, acted like a punk, did drugs like a punk, got kicked out of school like a punk. He was a punk. record hot spells? so why was zimmerman in a grey sweater AND a red fleece? interesting,,, lets check what Zimmerman said to the dispatcher http://videos.mediaite.com/embed/player/container/420/421/?layout=&content_type=content_item&playlist_cid=&media_type=audio&content=5Q4HDQ2SSYWMHW3F&read_more=1&widget_type_cid=svp&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fonline%2Fdid-george-zimmerman-complain-about-fcking-cns-in-911-call-before-killing-trayvon-martin%2F# RAINING, yeah, a great reason to wear something with a hood,,, a hoody isnt punk wear, smoking weed and painting graffiti is no less punkish than pushing around your wife or a cop,,,,, so the 'punk deserved it' defense isnt holding water well either |
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Zimmeralso said no when the punk approached him and Zimmer tried to walk away. Zimmer did learn from past mistakes me may or may not have made. This kind is a punk and a wannabe tough guy. I have no sympathy for him. he did? were you a witness to what was said? is it logical that a situation that began with person A following person B in a car person B changing directions to lose person A person A then getting out of his car to continue following person B then person B running to put distance between he and person B ,,SUDDENLY just changed to a situation where person B, who twice had retreated already,,, became the PREDATOR of person A who then CLAIMS he decided to finally retreat? ,,not logical to me,,,but I will wait for the facts to show Zimmerman to be a liar and an overzealous bully,,,, |
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Bottom line, the kid acted like a punk and got his a$$ handed to him. ANY reasonabe person who notices someone following them will not go and confront them unless they are trying to be a punk or a tough guy. They will either get their phone out and dial 9-11 or go to the first house or business and get help. This kid was nothing more then a punk who had a history of delenquency, tough guy acting and drugs. I wouldnt continue to promote the idea that 'punks' deserve death,,,,different people may define 'punk' differently,,, we will let the facts speak for themself when it goes to court, but Zimmermans story seems to be falling apart and being edited daily,,,, I didn't say they deserve death, it is a possible consequence of their actions. There are only two places for a punk tough guy jail or the morgue. so why is Zimmerman in neither, after all, he has assaulted an officer and had domestic abuse charges and been fired for being an overly aggressive security guard,,,,, but then, his dad is a retired JUDGE,,,,,(coincidence?) He wasn't being a punk that night. people make mistakes and learn from them. THe punk kid nidn't learn from them. HAAAAA,, operative word KID as opposed to a MAN with a charge for resisting with violence, and two charges of domestic abuse,, who should have learned,,,,? as I was saying, the facts will come out,,,and Zimmermans story is falling apart Zimmer did learn, he wasn't the one being a punk and trying to pick a fight. well, thats for the facts of the case to determine,,, |
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Recovery from religion...
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I can answer that. I am opposed to same sex marriage and I have said I dont feel same sex sex is healthy or natural.
Never said I was 'scared' of anyone though,, not sure where the phobia part comes in,,,lol |
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Bottom line, the kid acted like a punk and got his a$$ handed to him. ANY reasonabe person who notices someone following them will not go and confront them unless they are trying to be a punk or a tough guy. They will either get their phone out and dial 9-11 or go to the first house or business and get help. This kid was nothing more then a punk who had a history of delenquency, tough guy acting and drugs. I wouldnt continue to promote the idea that 'punks' deserve death,,,,different people may define 'punk' differently,,, we will let the facts speak for themself when it goes to court, but Zimmermans story seems to be falling apart and being edited daily,,,, I didn't say they deserve death, it is a possible consequence of their actions. There are only two places for a punk tough guy jail or the morgue. so why is Zimmerman in neither, after all, he has assaulted an officer and had domestic abuse charges and been fired for being an overly aggressive security guard,,,,, but then, his dad is a retired JUDGE,,,,,(coincidence?) He wasn't being a punk that night. people make mistakes and learn from them. THe punk kid nidn't learn from them. HAAAAA,, operative word KID as opposed to a MAN with a charge for resisting with violence, and two charges of domestic abuse,, who should have learned,,,,? as I was saying, the facts will come out,,,and Zimmermans story is falling apart |
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Could You Do It?
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I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? nope, thats why I would never sign on as a cop or a uniformed person with authority to take lives,,, A cop will never be given an order like this. Being a cop is completely different. no, one gets an order to kill, the other is just placed in positions where he determines who he should kill,,,,, It no where comes in to comparison. A cop is put in the position to kill a very bad person. Under this order the military is ordered to kill A LOT of very good people including women and babies. I get the point there. But cops are called upon in an instant to determine what 'bad' is, and they are often wrong,,, not a position I would ever want, taking someones life because I thought they were a 'bad' person,,,,, anymore than I would want to have to take peoples lives (not knowing if they are good or bad or a mixture) in order to save others,,, |
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Bottom line, the kid acted like a punk and got his a$$ handed to him. ANY reasonabe person who notices someone following them will not go and confront them unless they are trying to be a punk or a tough guy. They will either get their phone out and dial 9-11 or go to the first house or business and get help. This kid was nothing more then a punk who had a history of delenquency, tough guy acting and drugs. I wouldnt continue to promote the idea that 'punks' deserve death,,,,different people may define 'punk' differently,,, we will let the facts speak for themself when it goes to court, but Zimmermans story seems to be falling apart and being edited daily,,,, I didn't say they deserve death, it is a possible consequence of their actions. There are only two places for a punk tough guy jail or the morgue. so why is Zimmerman in neither, after all, he has assaulted an officer and had domestic abuse charges and been fired for being an overly aggressive security guard,,,,, but then, his dad is a retired JUDGE,,,,,(coincidence?) |
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Recovery from religion...
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We don't use use God as basically a fear tactic saying if you don't things exactly right you'll burn or you'll be extinguished eternally. Religious do, that's the difference. Do we think your lives may be better if you let go of some of the ideas you have? Yes. But do we believe God will punish you if you don't? No. Therein lies the separation. I dont use God as a fear tactic either, all religious cant be painted with one brush. So what if atheists dont use God as their fear of choice? ,, its not like there arent atheists guilty of using other fear tactics on people fear of stigmatism, being labeled bigoted, fear of expressing or practicing what is important to them, far of having to 'conform, or be an outcast,fear of impending doom from other humans, fear of political conspiracies, fear of losing 'freedom',,etc,,, Well maybe sometimes you ought to take the criticisms to heart. Instead of looking at it strictly from your particularly colored glasses, maybe look outside it for once. Maybe then you'd understand why we are so vehemantly opposed to what you believe or at the least how you express that. And before you even try to say I should do the same, save it. I did this a long time ago, and it's exactly why I left religion behind, and why others left it as well. Just because you have believed something all your life, doesn't mean it is necessarily true. Assuming in effect you know all there is to know is a really bad assumption. When you stop learning, you stop growing. And religion can stunt one's growth because it discourages any ideas that may go against it, and closes the mind. Having said all that, if you wanna believe something you can, but when you start to judge others in how they are living based on YOUR belief, (ie: Homosexuality), don't be surprised when people are gonna come against you. You cross a line at that point. If it works for you, fine, but just because others subscribe to different beliefs doesn't make them wrong, and doesn't make it right for you to tell them they are wrong just because of what YOU believe. To love is to accept someone as they are, for who they are, not try to mold them into what you want them to be. Having said all that, if you wanna believe something you can, but when you start to judge others in how they are living based on YOUR belief, (ie: Homosexuality), don't be surprised when people are gonna come against you. A "Christian" or well a follower of Jesus would not do as you mention. Doesn't matter if the person is Homosexual, bisexual, tall, short, fat, or ugly, we are not to judge another. We are to treat everyone with the same respect, love, caring, ect. There is no "greater then thou art" with a true follower of Jesus. By telling them to deny who they are, you judge them. Can't escape that. we are who we decide to be,,,there is nothing in stone that keeps us from becoming whoever we 'wish' to be,,,, there are influences, but no truly 'universal' equation that decides it for us,,, This is true, but this isn't my point. By telling them that what they feel is wrong, even when they are happy and at peace with themselves as that person, you are still judging them. Sometimes you have to learn to mind your own business. Unless it's clear it's needed, and not just to you either, let them be who they are. as a parent, I dont discuss the 'wrongness' of feelings, I discuss the 'why' of feelings and I discuss the healthy ways to deal with or express the feelings Im not concerned as much about feelings, I have hundreds of feelings a day,,, IM more concerned with how feelings are dealt with and what action they manifest into,,, |
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Could You Do It?
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I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? nope, thats why I would never sign on as a cop or a uniformed person with authority to take lives,,, A cop will never be given an order like this. Being a cop is completely different. no, one gets an order to kill, the other is just placed in positions where he determines who he should kill,,,,, |
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The Stand Your Ground Case
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Bottom line, the kid acted like a punk and got his a$$ handed to him. ANY reasonabe person who notices someone following them will not go and confront them unless they are trying to be a punk or a tough guy. They will either get their phone out and dial 9-11 or go to the first house or business and get help. This kid was nothing more then a punk who had a history of delenquency, tough guy acting and drugs. I wouldnt continue to promote the idea that 'punks' deserve death,,,,different people may define 'punk' differently,,, we will let the facts speak for themself when it goes to court, but Zimmermans story seems to be falling apart and being edited daily,,,, |
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Could You Do It?
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I was watching a great video Inside Zero Hour about 9/11. There was a part talking about how the fighter planes were given the order to take down any planes that didn't comply. I cant imagine what just getting the order from the White House to take down a plane with hundreds of innocent men, women and children in an effort to save thousands. I can't imagine having to actually go through with it. Yea sure they are trained to go after and take out the enemy but to kill the people they took an oath to protect? I don't think I could do it, could you? nope, thats why I would never sign on as a cop or a uniformed person with authority to take lives,,, |
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Recovery from religion...
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agreeing to disagree is one of my favorite pasttimes,,,
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Recovery from religion...
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We don't use use God as basically a fear tactic saying if you don't things exactly right you'll burn or you'll be extinguished eternally. Religious do, that's the difference. Do we think your lives may be better if you let go of some of the ideas you have? Yes. But do we believe God will punish you if you don't? No. Therein lies the separation. I dont use God as a fear tactic either, all religious cant be painted with one brush. So what if atheists dont use God as their fear of choice? ,, its not like there arent atheists guilty of using other fear tactics on people fear of stigmatism, being labeled bigoted, fear of expressing or practicing what is important to them, far of having to 'conform, or be an outcast,fear of impending doom from other humans, fear of political conspiracies, fear of losing 'freedom',,etc,,, Well maybe sometimes you ought to take the criticisms to heart. Instead of looking at it strictly from your particularly colored glasses, maybe look outside it for once. Maybe then you'd understand why we are so vehemantly opposed to what you believe or at the least how you express that. And before you even try to say I should do the same, save it. I did this a long time ago, and it's exactly why I left religion behind, and why others left it as well. Just because you have believed something all your life, doesn't mean it is necessarily true. Assuming in effect you know all there is to know is a really bad assumption. When you stop learning, you stop growing. And religion can stunt one's growth because it discourages any ideas that may go against it, and closes the mind. Having said all that, if you wanna believe something you can, but when you start to judge others in how they are living based on YOUR belief, (ie: Homosexuality), don't be surprised when people are gonna come against you. You cross a line at that point. If it works for you, fine, but just because others subscribe to different beliefs doesn't make them wrong, and doesn't make it right for you to tell them they are wrong just because of what YOU believe. To love is to accept someone as they are, for who they are, not try to mold them into what you want them to be. Having said all that, if you wanna believe something you can, but when you start to judge others in how they are living based on YOUR belief, (ie: Homosexuality), don't be surprised when people are gonna come against you. A "Christian" or well a follower of Jesus would not do as you mention. Doesn't matter if the person is Homosexual, bisexual, tall, short, fat, or ugly, we are not to judge another. We are to treat everyone with the same respect, love, caring, ect. There is no "greater then thou art" with a true follower of Jesus. By telling them to deny who they are, you judge them. Can't escape that. we are who we decide to be,,,there is nothing in stone that keeps us from becoming whoever we 'wish' to be,,,, there are influences, but no truly 'universal' equation that decides it for us,,, |
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We don't use use God as basically a fear tactic saying if you don't things exactly right you'll burn or you'll be extinguished eternally. Religious do, that's the difference. Do we think your lives may be better if you let go of some of the ideas you have? Yes. But do we believe God will punish you if you don't? No. Therein lies the separation. I dont use God as a fear tactic either, all religious cant be painted with one brush. So what if atheists dont use God as their fear of choice? ,, its not like there arent atheists guilty of using other fear tactics on people fear of stigmatism, being labeled bigoted, fear of expressing or practicing what is important to them, far of having to 'conform, or be an outcast,fear of impending doom from other humans, fear of political conspiracies, fear of losing 'freedom',,etc,,, Well maybe sometimes you ought to take the criticisms to heart. Instead of looking at it strictly from your particularly colored glasses, maybe look outside it for once. Maybe then you'd understand why we are so vehemantly opposed to what you believe or at the least how you express that. And before you even try to say I should do the same, save it. I did this a long time ago, and it's exactly why I left religion behind, and why others left it as well. Just because you have believed something all your life, doesn't mean it is necessarily true. Assuming in effect you know all there is to know is a really bad assumption. When you stop learning, you stop growing. And religion can stunt one's growth because it discourages any ideas that may go against it, and closes the mind. Having said all that, if you wanna believe something you can, but when you start to judge others in how they are living based on YOUR belief, (ie: Homosexuality), don't be surprised when people are gonna come against you. You cross a line at that point. If it works for you, fine, but just because others subscribe to different beliefs doesn't make them wrong, and doesn't make it right for you to tell them they are wrong just because of what YOU believe. To love is to accept someone as they are, for who they are, not try to mold them into what you want them to be. really? all this is about having an opinion that people are doing the wrong thing? thats human, thats not religious For the record, I dont judge 'people'. I do believe people bake right and wrong choices and I Think anyone that claims they dont believe that as well is lying. Having an opinion is a human rality and a human right and atheists and religious are no less human in that regard. Do you believe it is wrong for an adult male to take a pre pubescent wife? do you have any business saying they are 'wrong', because its what you believe? what makes your belief so much better than anyone elses? ,,,,,,see where Im going,,,? There are things clearly wrong to ALL, regardless of religious background or not. They are universal rights and wrongs. If only YOU have the problem, you may wanna think about why. Check yourself first, if only you have the problem chances are it's your issue NOT theirs. Learn the difference. And please keep the extremes out of this, they have no basis in reality in this discussion. As I said, there are universal right and wrongs, and we ALL know this. its only 'extreme' because it makes too much sense to face it is just as REAL for people to oppose a pubescent girl taken as a wife, as it is for people to oppose same sex sex.... and that doesnt mean they feel they are better or worse than those involved (although in both cases, those judging do sometimes feel as if they are better or their morals are the morals that are 'universal') |
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Well, where are all the complaints that they are racists? You know what I think is racist? When an African American posts he or she is proud to be black. If I posted I were proud to be white, I'd be called a racist or white-supremist. We can't help what color our skin is. I'd rather be saying I am proud to be a Christian or a good mother or anti-violent or anti-racist!! Racism comes in all shades and...races. Sad, sad shame that people are still so against each other over color and race. I like to detest people on an individual basis, regarless of skin color or race. 
Does it just bother you when black people are proud to be black? What about any other ethnicity? what bothers me is people saying they are what they are not i am not irish-american never even been to ireland---just like most african-americans never been to africa,,,,,,,except of course obama he was born there lol if it was not for crackers slavery would still be in the soup thing is, noone is defined in any neat little box, because we come from someone who comes from someone,,etc,,,, so, to say one is irish american, would imply that one has roots in ireland although they are an american similarly an african american has roots in africa although they are american |
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I dont know the laws in Britain quite as well, I dont know how they view such action or if the family chose to pursue anything but murder. umm, just so you know, Sarasota is in Florida... lol, yes, I understand what I am suggesting is that the victims were BRITISH and visiting, I am not familiar with the prosecution process, if the parents had any say in how they were charged, if they parents (or more accurately the prosecutor)felt there would be any gain in charging him with double homicide as opposed to hate crime,,,,etc,,, |
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Recovery from religion...
Edited by
msharmony
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We don't use use God as basically a fear tactic saying if you don't things exactly right you'll burn or you'll be extinguished eternally. Religious do, that's the difference. Do we think your lives may be better if you let go of some of the ideas you have? Yes. But do we believe God will punish you if you don't? No. Therein lies the separation. I dont use God as a fear tactic either, all religious cant be painted with one brush. So what if atheists dont use God as their fear of choice? ,, its not like there arent atheists guilty of using other fear tactics on people fear of stigmatism, being labeled bigoted, fear of expressing or practicing what is important to them, far of having to 'conform, or be an outcast,fear of impending doom from other humans, fear of political conspiracies, fear of losing 'freedom',,etc,,, Well maybe sometimes you ought to take the criticisms to heart. Instead of looking at it strictly from your particularly colored glasses, maybe look outside it for once. Maybe then you'd understand why we are so vehemantly opposed to what you believe or at the least how you express that. And before you even try to say I should do the same, save it. I did this a long time ago, and it's exactly why I left religion behind, and why others left it as well. Just because you have believed something all your life, doesn't mean it is necessarily true. Assuming in effect you know all there is to know is a really bad assumption. When you stop learning, you stop growing. And religion can stunt one's growth because it discourages any ideas that may go against it, and closes the mind. Having said all that, if you wanna believe something you can, but when you start to judge others in how they are living based on YOUR belief, (ie: Homosexuality), don't be surprised when people are gonna come against you. You cross a line at that point. If it works for you, fine, but just because others subscribe to different beliefs doesn't make them wrong, and doesn't make it right for you to tell them they are wrong just because of what YOU believe. To love is to accept someone as they are, for who they are, not try to mold them into what you want them to be. really? all this is about having an opinion that people are doing the wrong thing? thats human, thats not religious For the record, I dont judge 'people'. I do believe people bake right and wrong choices and I Think anyone that claims they dont believe that as well is lying. Having an opinion is a human rality and a human right and atheists and religious are no less human in that regard. Do you believe it is wrong for an adult male to take a pre pubescent wife? do you have any business saying they are 'wrong', because its what you believe? what makes your belief so much better than anyone elses? ,,,,,,see where Im going,,,? |
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