guardian angels ?

YES, they will be there for someone stranded on the highway with
car problems....Glory Hallelujah !



for the mother searching bombed out rubble for her dead children...NO
for the baby who is born addicted to heroin thru their addicted parents...NO
for the 12 year old altar boy being sodomized by a priest...NO

Fanatics are not the only people who suffer from delusions.
I believe every person able to have an imagination have some type of delusion.
I also acknowledge despite my best efforts, I am still deluded about some things.

Religion is a belief system
Science is a belief system
Reality is an experience system.

I choose to believe science over religion because science most closely aligns with the reality I experience. It makes the most sense to me. I'm more likely to believe a scientific explanation than a religious one.
Not because I hate religion but because I trust science.
When science is wrong it is usually because science proved it was wrong.

Religion will never admit it was wrong.
It is stale state. It argues, fights and forces to remain right despite reality.
Egotistical and narcissistic.

In reality there is cause and effect.
In religion there is God's will, but only sometimes.

~~714~~

The reason why they use different dating methods is because there is no one method fits all tests. I even bold faced that in my comment.

The true age of 4.56 billion years is deduced by multiple tests, observations and empirical reasoning.

I also never stated I believe the Earth is 4.56 billion years old but that number is close enough.
I believe the Earth is 4.91 billion years old because it took about 3-400 million years or more for it to gather and solidify and during that time, it was not solid, it was molten. Gravity caused the heaviest elements to sink to the center over time so to find the actual true age of planet Earth would require sampling the center of the solid inner core.

Well the OP has gone long ago, couldn't wait around for the final answer.

Quoting any passage from any book is quoting from the minds of men.

Scientific claims are no more absurd than religious claims eg. Jonah and the whale, and Noah's ark full of all pairs of animals for 40 days.

And in the end, evil thrives all around, and the good suffer; certainly not the product of a perfectionist all powerful loving but jealous creator.

The proof is in the pudding.
The 'creator's' human colony / society is a failure, destroying its habitat, and itself, and doomed to extinction if left alone.

Burnt offerings, and frankincense and myrrh, and prayers to any deity aren't going to help.

So maybe we do all go to hell when the Earth is uninhabitable, so the devil exists, and therefore so does god. laugh

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/tan/index.htm

Genesis (Bereshit)
Exodus (Shemot)
Leviticus (Vayikra)
Numbers (Bemidbar)
Deuteronomy (Devarim)
Joshua (Yehoshua)
Judges (Shoftim)
1 Samuel (1 Shmuel)
2 Samuel (2 Shmuel)
1 Kings (1 Melakhim)
2 Kings (2 Melakhim)
Isaiah (Yisheyah)
Jeremiah (Yermiyah)
Ezekiel (Yechezqel)
Hosea (Hoshea)
Joel (Yoel)
Amos
Obadiah (Ovadyah)
Jonah (Yonah)
Micah (Mikhah)
Nahum (Nahum)
Habakkuk (Chavaquq)
Zephaniah (Tsephanyah)
Haggai (Haggai)
Zechariah (Zekharyah)
Malachi (Malakhi)
Psalms (Tehilim)
Proverbs (Mishlei)
Job (Iyov)
Song of Solomon (Shir Hashirim)
Ruth
Lamentations (Eichah)
Ecclesiastes (Qohelet)
Esther (Esther)
Daniel (Daniyel)
Ezra
Nehemiah (Nechemiyah)
1 Chronicles (1 Divrey Yamim)
2 Chronicles (2 Divrey Yamim)

http://www.tanach.us/Tanach.xml

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/tan/exo.htm

Tanach (Hebrew): Exodus (Shemot) Chapter 3
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/tan/exo003.htm

Septuagint: Exodus Chapter 3
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/sep/exo003.htm

Vulgate (Latin): Exodus Chapter 3
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/vul/exo003.htm
Looks like chicken scratch to me.
I can't read that!

King James Version: Exodus Chapter 3
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/exo003.htm
I can read it but not really interested in it anymore.
What I did was scan for Adam, Eve & Nod.
I don't see what you are talking about?

Here are all four version side by side...
Polyglot Bible: Exodus
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/exo003.htm

Like I already said a few times, I don't have a problem with anyone's belief or disbelief.
People tend to have a problem with mine, tho.

Biostratigraphy:
One of the first and most basic scientific dating methods is also one of the easiest to understand. Layers of rock build one atop another — find a fossil or artifact in one layer, and you can reasonably assume it’s older than anything above it. Paleontologists still commonly use biostratigraphy to date fossils, often in combination with paleomagnetism and tephrochronology. A submethod within biostratigraphy is faunal association: Sometimes researchers can determine a rough age for a fossil based on established ages of other fauna from the same layer — especially microfauna, which evolve faster, creating shorter spans in the fossil record for each species.

Paleomagnetism:
Earth’s magnetic polarity flip-flops about every 100,000 to 600,000 years. The polarity is recorded by the orientation of magnetic crystals in specific kinds of rock, and researchers have established a timeline of normal and reversed periods of polarity. Paleomagnetism is often used as a rough check of results from another dating method.

Tephrochronology:
Within hours or days of a volcanic eruption, tephra — fragments of rock and other material hurled into the atmosphere by the event — is deposited in a single layer with a unique geochemical fingerprint. Researchers can first apply an absolute dating method to the layer. They then use that absolute date to establish a relative age for fossils and artifacts in relation to that layer. For example, New Zealand’s massive Taupo volcano erupted in A.D. 232. Anything below the Taupo tephra is earlier than 232; anything above it is later.

Whenever possible, researchers use one or more absolute dating methods, which provide an age for the actual fossil or artifact. Unlike observation-based relative dating, most absolute methods require some of the find to be destroyed by heat or other means.

This family of dating methods, some more than a century old, takes advantage of the environment’s natural radioactivity. Certain unstable isotopes of trace radioactive elements in both organic and inorganic materials decay into stable isotopes. This happens at known rates. By measuring the proportion of different isotopes present, researchers can figure out how old the material is.

Radiocarbon dating:
Sometimes called carbon-14 dating, this method works on organic material. Both plants and animals exchange carbon with their environment until they die. Afterward, the amount of the radioactive isotope carbon-14 in their remains decreases. Measuring carbon-14 in bones or a piece of wood provides an accurate date, but only within a limited range. Says Shea: “Beyond 40,000 years old, the sample is so small, and the contamination risk so great, that the margin of error is thousands of years.

Single crystal fusion:
Also called single crystal argon or argon-argon (Ar-Ar) dating, this method is a refinement of an older approach known as potassium-argon (K-Ar) dating, which is still sometimes used. Both methods date rock instead of organic material. As potassium decays, it turns into argon. But unlike radiocarbon dating, the older the sample, the more accurate the dating — researchers typically use these methods on finds at least 500,000 years old. While K-Ar dating requires destroying large samples to measure potassium and argon levels separately, Ar-Ar dating can analyze both at once with a single, smaller sample.

Uranium series dating:
U-series dating includes a number of methods, each based on different uranium isotopes’ decay rates. The uranium-thorium method is often helpful for dating finds in the 40,000- to 500,000-year-old range, too old for radiocarbon but too young for K-Ar or Ar-Ar.

Over time, certain kinds of rocks and organic material, such as coral and teeth, are very good at trapping electrons from sunlight and cosmic rays pummeling Earth. Researchers can measure the amount of these trapped electrons to establish an age. But to use any trapped charge method, experts first need to calculate the rate at which the electrons were trapped. This includes factoring in many variables, such as the amount of radiation the object was exposed to each year. These techniques are accurate only for material ranging from a few thousand to 500,000 years old — some researchers argue the accuracy diminishes significantly after 100,000 years.

Thermoluminescence:
Optically stimulated luminescence:
Electronic spin resonance:

QUOTE:
so far, uranium, electronically, radioactively, carbon dating methods have all been proven to be extremely flawed, by process of, removing unstable condition test samples and placing them in a stable lab environment where they will begin to immediately adapt and skews the Data every time.


The good dates are confirmed using at least two different methods, ideally involving multiple independent labs for each method to cross-check results. Sometimes only one method is possible, reducing the confidence researchers have in the results.

http://discovermagazine.com/2016/jul-aug/scientific-dating-methods

http://www.livescience.com/32321-how-is-earths-age-calculated.html

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C25&q=age+of+the+earth&btnG=

http://sp.lyellcollection.org/content/190/1/205.short

ASTRONOMICAL TIME KEEPING OF EARTH HISTORY
http://www.jstor.org/stable/26604953?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
Abstract
The mathematically predictable cyclic movements of Earth with respect to the sun provides the basis for constructing highly accurate and precise age models for Earth’s past.

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Littler, Kate, et al. “ASTRONOMICAL TIME KEEPING OF EARTH HISTORY: An Invaluable Contribution of Scientific Ocean Drilling.” Oceanography, vol. 32, no. 1, 2019, pp. 72–76. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/26604953.
APA
Littler, K., Westerhold, T., Drury, A., Liebrand, D., Lisiecki, L., & Pälike, H. (2019). ASTRONOMICAL TIME KEEPING OF EARTH HISTORY: An Invaluable Contribution of Scientific Ocean Drilling. Oceanography, 32(1), 72-76. Retrieved from https://www.jstor.org/stable/26604953
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Littler, Kate, Thomas Westerhold, Anna Joy Drury, Diederik Liebrand, Lorraine Lisiecki, and Heiko Pälike. "ASTRONOMICAL TIME KEEPING OF EARTH HISTORY: An Invaluable Contribution of Scientific Ocean Drilling." Oceanography 32, no. 1 (2019): 72-76. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26604953.


True age of 4.56 billion years

It is an irrefutable geological fact that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. What was God doing for billions of years before he made humans? Everyone has the right to believe what they like and everyone else has the right to find it ridiculous.